For the record, I do think Hagens has the best chance to hit the highs of his ceiling from what I have seen, but your worries about Turcotte 2.0 are very valid, he does share many similarities to when I saw Alex's pre-draft. Nonetheless, I would be surprised if he falls that much, I still see him being an average to below-average 1st line centre and I think that's where our disagreement falls. I see somebody who resembles Crosby's game and is a workhorse at both ends of the ice. Crosby didn't have any outstanding qualities as a junior player, he was just great at everything (insane IQ though) in a non-flashy sort of way and Hagens plays a similar style if you'd ask me, where he uses a lot of IQ to know where to go in all three zones. If that's the case and a team dislikes Hagens, then they should draft Misa IMHO. Even though he's on the smaller side, he to me is the most talented player in this draft even if might play a bit too much of a junior style of game at times. His talent is worth a top 3 pick alone if you'd ask me.