Blues Trade Proposals Part 4

[Captain Creampuff]

Strickland is only as good as his source and he has no source in this case.

When he is his own source...god help him

 

[bleedblue1223]

When he is his own source...god help him

Exactly and we aren't even exaggerating lol.

 

[Captain Creampuff]

Not a trade proposal but really just a projection with how well Kunitz is playing with Crosby. How many points do you think say Perron and Stewart could get on Crosby's wing? Just completely hypothetical. Only ask because of the season Kunitz is having.

 

[Frenzy31]

Ok guys.

Personally I think there was a 100% chance that Stewart was on the block going into the year. His price likely went up in January when we started having issues with the back line and goal keeping. Plus we had a ton of wings and really needed a solid d presence.

Right now, there is no way he is moved. The TV personalities are talking this rumor up because of lack of activity at this trade deadline - due to most teams having a shot at the playoffs if they heat up at the right time.

Strickland basically cut the rumor down when he said Stewart wasn't getting moved due to the injuries. This is kind of a No Poo.

I wouldn't put to much stock in the recent talks.

 

[frostyflo]

Ok guys.

Personally I think there was a 100% chance that Stewart was on the block going into the year. His price likely went up in January when we started having issues with the back line and goal keeping. Plus we had a ton of wings and really needed a solid d presence.

Right now, there is no way he is moved. The TV personalities are talking this rumor up because of lack of activity at this trade deadline - due to most teams having a shot at the playoffs if they heat up at the right time.

Strickland basically cut the rumor down when he said Stewart wasn't getting moved due to the injuries. This is kind of a No Poo.

I wouldn't put to much stock in the recent talks.

I 100% agree on the bolded part!
its pretty obvious to me that Dregger desperately wants a big story...it gets worse and worse every deadline and free agent frenzy

thats pretty sad because I had Dregs very high on my credibility list for his work over the last few years

 

[frostyflo]

I ignore everything Strickland posts, not a very creditable source, he should write for Bleacher Report.

I followed him, till today, for a few months now and he was pretty reliable in this time...guess he shows his real, horny for attention, face again now

 

[Falco Lombardi]

For the record, David Backes is now tied for 3rd in points on the team. People mentioning him in here, I just don't understand.

 

[PocketNines]

For the record, David Backes is now tied for 3rd in points on the team. People mentioning him in here, I just don't understand.

I've pointed out the points thing before, but there's no doubt we're not seeing the same Backes offensively as in years past. He's not generating anywhere near the same number of scoring chances as he once was.

The good news is that guy is easily good enough to turn it around and look more dangerous, so there's room to grow on a team starting to find its rhythm.

 

[Mike Liut]

For the record, David Backes is now tied for 3rd in points on the team. People mentioning him in here, I just don't understand.

wow, I wouldn't have guessed that. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing due to how average I think he's played.

 

[ExJbeck]

For the record, David Backes is now tied for 3rd in points on the team. People mentioning him in here, I just don't understand.

Here is the number to Clarkson Eyecare: (314) 621-5303. I got your back!

 

[Falco Lombardi]

Here is the number to Clarkson Eyecare: (314) 621-5303. I got your back!

....I'm slow today. I'm not getting it.

 

[BadgersandBlues]

....I'm slow today. I'm not getting it.

I think the point he's trying to make is that while Backes is 3rd overall in team scoring, the "eye test" leaves a lot to be desired in his game offensively.

 

[Blue Goose]

For the record, David Backes is now tied for 3rd in points on the team. People mentioning him in here, I just don't understand.

Dude is saving dogs. I'm not trading him.

 

[EastonBlues22]

I think the point he's trying to make is that while Backes is 3rd overall in team scoring, the "eye test" leaves a lot to be desired in his game offensively.

I agree with this general sentiment. As mentioned above, Backes simply isn't generating scoring chances like he has previously. I see him deferring to others quite a bit, and he almost never gets the puck to the middle of the ice himself.

When's the last time he's made a power move to the middle of the ice with the puck off the half-wall? He almost never does it on the rush, either. He's become a perimeter player with the puck on his stick, and that's a far cry from the Backes that used to make it his personal mission to get the puck to the net using raw physicality.

 

[Thallis]

I agree with this general sentiment. As mentioned above, Backes simply isn't generating scoring chances like he has previously. I see him deferring to others quite a bit, and he almost never gets the puck to the middle of the ice himself.

When's the last time he's made a power move to the middle of the ice with the puck off the half-wall? He almost never does it on the rush, either. He's become a perimeter player with the puck on his stick, and that's a far cry from the Backes that used to make it his personal mission to get the puck to the net using raw physicality.

It wasn't that specifically, but that 1 on 1 last night was very impressive. He's gotten pretty close these past few games, I see it as only a matter of time before he picks it up again.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Remember Backes has horrible leadership skills too...

 

[bluemandan]

Not a trade proposal but really just a projection with how well Kunitz is playing with Crosby. How many points do you think say Perron and Stewart could get on Crosby's wing? Just completely hypothetical. Only ask because of the season Kunitz is having.

Honestly, I think that Jaden Schwartz would score more than either of the two on a line with Crosby.

Perron likes to hold on to the puck too much and be the one driving the play to mesh well with Crosby in my opinion.

And I don't mean this as a knock on Chris Stewart, but I don't know that he thinks the game at a high enough level to mesh well with Crosby. Most of what Stewart does is based off of a physical mismatch, be it strength or be it speed. Nor does Chris Stewart offer the net-presence one might think of a player with his size.

Then again, this IS Crosby we are talking about. So I'm sure they both would score a high amount of points and likely set career highs.

 

[rumrokh]

Honestly, I think that Jaden Schwartz would score more than either of the two on a line with Crosby.

Perron likes to hold on to the puck too much and be the one driving the play to mesh well with Crosby in my opinion.

And I don't mean this as a knock on Chris Stewart, but I don't know that he thinks the game at a high enough level to mesh well with Crosby. Most of what Stewart does is based off of a physical mismatch, be it strength or be it speed. Nor does Chris Stewart offer the net-presence one might think of a player with his size.

Then again, this IS Crosby we are talking about. So I'm sure they both would score a high amount of points and likely set career highs.

Honestly, I don't think that you have to think the game at a high level to succeed with Crosby. If anything, you just have to be a player who plays a simple, strong game. Move quickly, get Crosby the puck, get your shots through, drive the net.

As much as Perron likes the puck on his stick, Schwartz does, too. Stewart can do serious damage with basically no time with the puck.

 

[PocketNines]

Remember Backes has horrible leadership skills too...

This caught me just right and I lolled.

 

[Celtic Note]

I agree with this general sentiment. As mentioned above, Backes simply isn't generating scoring chances like he has previously. I see him deferring to others quite a bit, and he almost never gets the puck to the middle of the ice himself.

When's the last time he's made a power move to the middle of the ice with the puck off the half-wall? He almost never does it on the rush, either. He's become a perimeter player with the puck on his stick, and that's a far cry from the Backes that used to make it his personal mission to get the puck to the net using raw physicality.

I really believe that the lockout hurt him and that he is playing through injuries. In recent games he has gone down multiple times and left the ice for repairs. The guys is still battling by playing through the pain (he hasn't left a game yet due to injury) and he is a league leader in hits. Plus, he has been relied on heavily for all aspects of the game, which is sure to eat up some energy.

With all the excuses mentioned above, I do think he can drive the puck to the net more.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

I really believe that the lockout hurt him and that he is playing through injuries. In recent games he has gone down multiple times and left the ice for repairs. The guys is still battling by playing through the pain (he hasn't left a game yet due to injury) and he is a league leader in hits. Plus, he has been relied on heavily for all aspects of the game, which is sure to eat up some energy.

With all the excuses mentioned above, I do think he can drive the puck to the net more.

I agree.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

I saw this on SB Nation. I thought you all might be interested in some of the college free agents that are out there. Looks like a good flock of d-men.

1. Dan DeKeyser, Junior, Defense, Western Michigan

DeKeyser was one of the top NHL free agents targets last summer, fielding offers from nearly every NHL team, but chose to return to Western Michigan for his junior season, and the extra year of development hasn't hurt his stock at all. DeKeyser doesn't bring a lot in the way of offensive upside, so his 2 goals and 10 assists through 27 games this season doesn't look impressive, but DeKeyser is a solid 6'3" 198 lbs. and an excellent skater that plays very solid shutdown defense. DeKeyser should have his choice of NHL teams again this summer, though the Detroit Red Wings seem to be the front-runner for his services.

2. Andrej Sustr, Junior, Defense, Nebraska-Omaha

Sustr is a player that stands out immediately when playing simply because he is 6'8". His enormous size has made him a bit of a late bloomer, but he's begun to show the skating ability necessary to play in the NHL. He's not a punishing, physical defender, but does possess pretty soft hands for a player of his size, and makes a nice first pass out of the zone. He's scored 20 points through 30 games this year, including eight points on the power play.

3. Nate Schmidt, Junior, Defense, Minnesota

Schmidt leads all NCAA defensemen in scoring with eight goals and 20 assists so far on the season. His best asset is his rocket shot from the point on the power play, and he's been an effective distributor of the puck, helping the Gophers to one of the nation's best power plays. But what gets lost with all those points is how much Schmidt has improved on the defensive end in the past year. If he can play passable defense and take advantage of his canon shot, he has the potential to be an effective NHL player.

4. Eriah Hayes, Senior, Forward, Minnesota State

Hayes is a 6'4" 210 lbs. power forward with good goal scoring touch around the net. Hayes showed flashes of NHL potential in his first three seasons, catching the eye of the Chicago Blackhawks, who have invited him to their prospect camps in recent years, but struggled to show potential consistently. This year, Hayes has scored 16 goals and 12 assists through 30 games, including a nation-leading 10 power play goals, and has never been afraid to mix things up physically, showing that he might have a future as a presence in front of the net at the NHL level.

5. Ryan Walters, Junior, Forward, Nebraska-Omaha

Walters doesn't have overwhelming size, generously listed at at 6'0" 188 lbs, but he's been the most dangerous scoring threat in the NCAA this season, with a nation-leading 42 points through 30 games. He's a decent skater with great hands and offensive instincts. Walters has toned things down physically this year because he's been so valuable offensively, but can play with a nasty streak if need be.

6. Shayne Taker, Junior, Defense, Notre Dame

Taker is a late-developing player that was originally committed to play for Sacred Heart before Notre Dame saw the potential in the 6'4" 201 lbs. defensive defenseman. Taker is never going to be a flashy player, but does provide safe, reliable, and physical defense.

7. Austin Czarnik, Sophomore, Forward, Miami

Czarnik was passed over in the draft due to his lack of prototypical NHL size at just 5'9" 160 lbs. But it's difficult to ignore the type of production he's put up in his two years of NCAA hockey. He's backed up last year's 37 point campaign with 30 points in his first 30 games this year. Czarnik has a lot of speed and great hockey instincts that may allow him to survive against the physical rigors of the NHL.

8. Alex Krushelnyski, Senior, Forward, Colorado College

Krushelnyski was a player barely on the radar heading into this season, but has had an incredible year. Krushelnyski has 32 points through 30 games this year, including 28 points at even strength. He's the nation's third best scorer at even strength behind Walters and Boston College's Johnny Gaudreau. There's nothing flashy about his game, but he's the type of player that wins battles and rarely makes a mistake. He has the type of tools to be an effective bottom line player in the NHL.

9. Drew Leblanc, Senior, Forward, St. Cloud

Leblanc returned to St. Cloud for a fifth year after missing nearly all of last year with a broken leg, and has shown no ill effects from the injury, already besting his career-high 39 points scored as a junior. Leblanc will have to become more conscious on the defensive end at the pro level, but his ability to distribute the puck is nearly unparalleled in the college game.

10. Kellen Lain, Junior, Forward, Lake Superior

Lain is a bit of a project, but he stands at 6'6" 220 lbs. and has scored 6 goals and 7 assists in 23 games this year for the low-scoring, defensive-minded Lakers. Lain has skated in prospect camps for the Anaheim Ducks and Detroit Red Wings, and it seems likely that some team will be intrigued by his size and skill.

11. Rylan Schwartz, Senior, Forward, Colorado College

While never quite as dynamic as younger brother Jaden, Schwartz has always been a dangerous offensive player in his own right. He's having a very strong final campaign, with 35 points through 30 games this year, and his playmaking abilities could be valuable for some NHL club.

12. Kenney Morrison, Freshman, Defense, Western Michigan

Morrison still has a ways to go before he's ready for the NHL, but the potential is enormous. Morrison has good size at 6'2" 198 lbs., and has the offensive ability, including a booming slap shot, to quarterback a power play. He needs to make big strides on the defensive end, but has slowly been picking up that part of the game under the tutelage of former NHL head coach Andy Murray.

13. Chris Casto, Sophomore, Defense, Minnesota-Duluth

Casto seemed like a lock to leave school as a top free agent target heading into the season, but a rough second year has caused his stock to drop a bit. Casto is 6'3" 210 lbs. and moves really well for a player of his size. If he can develop into a shutdown defender, he'll be a highly prized free agent target.

14. Wade Epp, Junior, Defense, Northern Michigan

Epp is a 6'4" 210 lbs. defensive defenseman that the Edmonton Oilers invited to their development camp last year.

15. Mike Boivin,Senior, Defense, Colorado College

Boivin is an offensive defenseman that has been a rock on the power play for the Tigers this year. Colorado College has a long history of getting offensive defensemen into the NHL including players like Mark Stuart, Jack Hillen, Nate Prosser, and Tom Preissing.

 

[bleedblue1223]

We should get Schwartz just because and he'd give us a somewhat decent center prospect.

 

[PerryTurnbullfan]

I wouldn't mind seeing them make a run at Dekeyser, Sustr, Epp or Taker.

 

[bleedblue1223]

If we can get on of the top available d, it would make moving Cole a lot easier.