Prospect Info: Blues 2024-2025 Prospect Thread

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I don't really see the harm in it, I am sure Dvorsky really wanted to go so why not let him go participate in the one of the biggest tournaments of the year with his peers. Sure he is playing great in the AHL right now but missing a couple weeks to play in the WJC isn't a big deal IMO.
I don't think it's a "big deal" and you don't want to create any friction with a top prospect if he truly insisted on going (which we have no idea as of today) but considering how he's thriving at the pro level it's a little odd to go backwards to junior competition...it's one of thing if he was struggling and needed a shot of confidence...
 
I don't think it's a "big deal" and you don't want to create any friction with a top prospect if he truly insisted on going (which we have no idea as of today) but considering how he's thriving at the pro level it's a little odd to go backwards to junior competition...it's one of thing if he was struggling and needed a shot of confidence...
I guess I just don't view it as "going backwards" It is a major tournament and Dvorsky will have a leadership role on his team competing against his peers. The Blues have allowed players to go from the NHL squad in the past so I don't really see what the issue is with him leaving the AHL team for a couple weeks.
 
I don't think it's a "big deal" and you don't want to create any friction with a top prospect if he truly insisted on going (which we have no idea as of today) but considering how he's thriving at the pro level it's a little odd to go backwards to junior competition...it's one of thing if he was struggling and needed a shot of confidence...
You're not thinking of it from a players perspective... It's an amazing opportunity to represent your country on international television and try to gain some accolades for a hockey program that has seen a lot of growth.

I love it for him, plus it's more ice time with Pekarcik to build on their already established chemistry.
 
I don't think it's a "big deal" and you don't want to create any friction with a top prospect if he truly insisted on going (which we have no idea as of today) but considering how he's thriving at the pro level it's a little odd to go backwards to junior competition...it's one of thing if he was struggling and needed a shot of confidence...
Might technically be lower competition than the AHL but him playing for Slovakia’s U20 team for a couple weeks is incredibly unlikely to alter the direction of his career one way or the other.

To me, it likely came down to what the player wanted. It’s pretty rare for an NHL team to loan out a teen to the WJC if they’re playing in the NHL but very likely if they’re in the AHL. And that’s what we have here.

He’ll be in a leadership role and with the games in Ottawa, doesn’t even have to deal with any sort of time change adjustment either.

Stenberg and Lindstein are also playing pro hockey. Should they not go?

Kos is also playing pro hockey.
 
I guess I just don't view it as "going backwards" It is a major tournament and Dvorsky will have a leadership role on his team competing against his peers. The Blues have allowed players to go from the NHL squad in the past so I don't really see what the issue is with him leaving the AHL team for a couple weeks.

Might technically be lower competition than the AHL but him playing for Slovakia’s U20 team for a couple weeks is incredibly unlikely to alter the direction of his career one way or the other.
I'm not all that concerned about it, especially if he advocated to play in the tournament. I don't view it as an issue, but it is objectively a step backwards to a lower level of competition. He's been playing top 6 minutes against the opponent's best players in the AHL. The players he has been on the ice with and against have been better and more developed than the players he will play against in the tournament. The style of play will also be sloppier and less structured than what he's been experiencing.

Simply put, I don't really value playing against your age group once you are good enough to be succeeding against grown men who are knocking on the NHL door and/or just came through the other side of that door. I think finding your space on the ice and trying to score on journeymen vets does more to grow your game than doing it against other 19 year olds. It's the same reason I'd have preferred Snuggy to have played in the AHL over the NCAA this year.

At a certain point, you outgrow your peers in order to make the next level.

He’ll be in a leadership role and with the games in Ottawa, doesn’t even have to deal with any sort of time change adjustment either.

Stenberg and Lindstein are also playing pro hockey. Should they not go?

Kos is also playing pro hockey.
My (again, minor) issue with him going is that he has seized an (on ice) leadership role in Springfield. He's getting big minutes with prime deployment and someone else will take those minutes while he is gone. There are never guarantees that you get those minutes back the instant you return from your junior tournament. For me it is much less about him playing pro hockey and much more about what he's been doing at that pro level. Or maybe you get it back at first, but the timing is off, you make a dumb play that just worked 4 days ago in the WJC bronze medal game and the coach goes back to the guy who found chemistry with your line mates while you were gone.

Again, I can't stress enough that I don't think the sky is falling. 2 weeks shouldn't derail his development and if he felt that he had something to prove or a duty to his country then I have no problem with the organization giving him that chance. His play has earned a reward and letting him go to the WJC is a much cheaper (and less impactful) reward than an NHL cup of coffee to put some money in his pocket.

My only complaint about this decision would be if it wasn't at the player's request because I think his on ice game would grow more by staying in the AHL.
 
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This is honestly a no brainer for me. If he wanted to go, then let him go. Like others have said, it would likely be different if he was on the NHL roster and playing meaningful minutes there, but playing against the top competition of your peers in a massively competitive tournament, I would suspect that it will be more challenging to play well there vs play well in the AHL. Maybe it's a different kind of competition, not necessarily better or worse, but it's a tournament that these young guys get up for. The AHL and NHL is about the grind and you HOPE you have a healthy enough body to give it your all in the playoffs. Right now, the young players will give it their all. Different type of difficulty, but easy choice to let him go to a top tournament.
 
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This is honestly a no brainer for me. If he wanted to go, then let him go. Like others have said, it would likely be different if he was on the NHL roster and playing meaningful minutes there, but playing against the top competition of your peers in a massively competitive tournament, I would suspect that it will be more challenging to play well there vs play well in the AHL. Maybe it's a different kind of competition, not necessarily better or worse, but it's a tournament that these young guys get up for. The AHL and NHL is about the grind and you HOPE you have a healthy enough body to give it your all in the playoffs. Right now, the young players will give it their all. Different type of difficulty, but easy choice to let him go to a top tournament.
This is how I’m looking at it. It’s like getting a couple of weeks of playoff level intensity (especially for the second tier teams) in the middle of the season.
 
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I didn't want Dvorsky playing in the tournament because I would rather him stay with Springfield and not risk throwing his game off, but at the end of the day, if he wants to play, let him play. WJC just got even more exciting for me.

Blues fans have really been blessed with the number of players we've sent over the last coupe seasons. It was great viewing during my week off between the holidays.
 
The WJC has you playing in a 6-7 game tournament against the best players in the world in your age group, where you’re wearing your country’s jersey. Every game means a ton, losing a single game can mean the end of your tourney.

In the AHL, you’re grinding through the season. Some games matter, some don’t, most guys are trying to work on parts of their game. It’s at least close to being the second-best league in the world, but the day-in day-out of the season isn’t some deathmatch.

A two-week break to go play in the WJC could honestly be the best option for Dvo in this scenario.
 
I can’t remember the names but over time there have been a few NHL level prospects who left their team to play U20. If anybody remembers remind me: I hit up google but failed.

If I were the Blues I’d be pushing for him to go. Even tho the competition is non pro, it’s very meaningful hockey and Dvorsky will have a leadership role.

For me, Bedard/Michov/Mcdavid/Matthews is the level of prospect where you don’t send them after they’ve become pro. Everybody below them should go.
 
My view is pretty simple on it, clearly the Blues were involved in the situation, so I'll assume that all parties were on the same page. I think like Snuggerud, the Blues may have preferred him to stay at the AHL level to maintain that level of competition, but proper development means that all sides get on the same page and are involved in those decisions. If Blues were on board with it, I'm on board with it.

I've liked all the decisions with his development so far, no reason to doubt it now.
 
My view is pretty simple on it, clearly the Blues were involved in the situation, so I'll assume that all parties were on the same page. I think like Snuggerud, the Blues may have preferred him to stay at the AHL level to maintain that level of competition, but proper development means that all sides get on the same page and are involved in those decisions. If Blues were on board with it, I'm on board with it.

I've liked all the decisions with his development so far, no reason to doubt it now.

This exactly. The Blues have talked to Dvorsky, Dvorsky's family, his coaches, and maybe even sports psychologists on how this could impact him. But a bunch of people who probably have not seen 60 minutes total of T-Brid hockey are opining on what's best for the kid. It's not an appeal to authority. It's an appeal to far superior information.
 
I can’t remember the names but over time there have been a few NHL level prospects who left their team to play U20. If anybody remembers remind me: I hit up google but failed.

If I were the Blues I’d be pushing for him to go. Even tho the competition is non pro, it’s very meaningful hockey and Dvorsky will have a leadership role.

For me, Bedard/Michov/Mcdavid/Matthews is the level of prospect where you don’t send them after they’ve become pro. Everybody below them should go.
Blues let Petro go when he was with the big club
 
Just be aware that Dvorsky will be playing on a below average team. Sure he will have Pekarcik on his wing but that's about it.

And the last two WJC´s he didn't really play that well under coach Feneš. Him and Pekarcik had a great WC18 under different coach.
 
I don’t love Dvo going to the WJC. It’s sort of like Snuggy returning to the NCAA. I would like to have both players realize they need to focus on the future not the past. It’s more about mindset for me than development with Dvo. For Snuggy it’s both.
 
I don’t love Dvo going to the WJC. It’s sort of like Snuggy returning to the NCAA. I would like to have both players realize they need to focus on the future not the past. It’s more about mindset for me than development with Dvo. For Snuggy it’s both.
I’m hoping that when Snuggy signs his deal that he will sign starting next year. Signs a year ending deal with Springfield and helps them in the playoffs should they stay in contention. If they get Dean, Robertsson and Snuggy in the playoffs, then they will get a serious talent injection.
 
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I’m hoping that when Snuggy signs his deal that he will sign starting next year. Signs a year ending deal with Springfield and helps them in the playoffs should they stay in contention. If they get Dean, Robertsson and Snuggy in the playoffs, then they will get a serious talent injection.
Is Robertsson back? How has he looked in any games you’ve been able to witness?
 
Is Robertsson back? How has he looked in any games you’ve been able to witness?
I really like him. He’s only played in a few games, but he is a 200 ft player, very good shot, and looks the part of a top 9. He just hasn’t stayed healthy. Very similar to Kaskimaki in my eyes jack of all trades master of none, but more physical. Kaskimaki is a first PP and first PK guy on Springfield. Both look to have top 6-9 tools. Just how much they can open the toolbox is the question.
 
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I really like him. He’s only played in a few games, but he is a 200 ft player, very good shot, and looks the part of a top 9. He just hasn’t stayed healthy. Very similar to Kaskimaki in my eyes jack of all trades master of none, but more physical. Kaskimaki is a first PP and first PK guy on Springfield. Both look to have top 6-9 tools. Just how much they can open the toolbox is the question.
Thanks! I was really high on him his draft year. I thought correctly that he would slip to us in later rounds. I knew he’d be a slow burner and I said myself “man, he could a surprise brisket when he’s ready!” The knock on him was/is his IQ and I remember some Swedish posters knocking his skating as well. I have way more faith in him than I did in Kostin who I viewed similarly.
 

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