Blackwood/Vanecek/We Really Need to Move On/Goalie Thread

[FooteBahl]

At the very least this should at least be the end of both Blackwood being the 1b here and coming back next year. There's no need to pay him his qualifying offer when he sucks and leaving us short to spend because we had to go pay a million dollar a year goalie $3-$4 million just because we have team control for one more year.

Do what the Caps did with Samsonov and let someone else sign him for $1.5 for a year or some shit.

That 2-3 million savings will go a long way towards Pastrnak’s contract

 

[JrFischer54]

Blackwood still going to get a shot to be the backup here when healthy. Doubt he has any value fit trade and even if there is tiny value I rather keep him as insurance for any run. Summer comes he’s off the team for sure

 

[Bleedred]

Look, I'm not happy the guy got injured, but him not being able to play has helped this team. And him being injured was the only way he was not gonna play a significant number of games. The staff/management/whoever just couldn't help themselves from playing him.

You know if he didn't get injured that he was gonna be playing at least all of the Schmid has played so far, on top of probably about 3 of the games that Vanecek has played since he went down with injury. I mean f***, he would have played at least one more game before this injury if he weren't nursing a sore elbow. It probably would have been that 1-0 win over Colorado the night after the practice he sat out and the EBUG filled in.

And it also let us see more of a Vanecek. Vanecek is signed for 2 more years, so it was much more important to see what we had in a future investment than some guy that isn't even gonna be worth his qualifying offer after this year and can be replaced by someone making about a million per year.

I can't see him being much better than a .900% if he were playing more. I think he would have chased .900% all year long. The other two goalies aren't doing that.

 

[devilsblood]

And it also let us see more of a Vanecek. Vanecek is signed for 2 more years, so it was much more important to see what we had in a future investment than some guy that isn't even gonna be worth his qualifying offer after this year and can be replaced by someone making about a million per year.

I can't see him being much better than a .900% if he were playing more. I think he would have chased .900% all year long. The other two goalies aren't doing that.

Oddly over the course of the season it might mean we see less of Vitek. IF Blackwood kept playing poorly, eventually they would have limited his games play, conversely if Schmid keeps playing like this he'll see more minutes.

And less minutes for Vitek is a good thing, keeping him fresh and all.

 

[Bleedred]

Oddly over the course of the season it might mean we see less of Vitek. IF Blackwood kept playing poorly, eventually they would have limited his games play, conversely if Schmid keeps playing like this he'll see more minutes.

And less minutes for Vitek is a good thing, keeping him fresh and all.

That's fair

And look, Schmid is overachieving. Why? Because no one maintains .950%, that's completely unrealistic.

But he's at least provided .950% over these five games, which have been a tremendous help.

 

[Guttersniped]

Look, I'm not happy the guy got injured,but him not being able to play has helped this team.​

And him being injured was the only way he was not gonna play a significant number of games. The staff/management/whoever just couldn't help themselves from playing him.

You know if he didn't get injured that he was gonna be playing at least all of the Schmid has played so far, on top of probably about 3 of the games that Vanecek has played since he went down with injury. I mean f***, he would have played at least one more game before this injury if he weren't nursing a sore elbow. It probably would have been that 1-0 win over Colorado the night after the practice he sat out and the EBUG filled in.

And it also let us see more of a Vanecek. Vanecek is signed for 2 more years, so it was much more important to see what we had in a future investment than some guy that isn't even gonna be worth his qualifying offer after this year and can be replaced by someone making about a million per year.

I can't see him being much better than a .900% if he were playing more. I think he would have chased .900% all year long. The other two goalies aren't doing that.

Sure, you say that now but I can’t help but have my suspicions…

 

[My3Sons]

That's fair

And look, Schmid is overachieving. Why? Because no one maintains .950%, that's completely unrealistic.

But he's at least provided .950% over these five games, which have been a tremendous help.

His save percentage crated to .939 in tonight’s game

 

[NJDevs26]

I've long thought he was an excellent prospect. I'd be cautious, because goalies are the most volatile players from season to season, so it's really hard to say... but what he's doing right now is really promising.

I kinda feel sorry for Nico Daws at this point, dude did a credible job (at least in the home games) with a shitstorm around him last year as a raw prospect and now he’s more or less been rocketed past by Schmid

 

[Bleedred]

His save percentage crated to .939 in tonight’s game

I ran the numbers myself since the app/website hadn't updated it and I believe he's down to a .949% from .953% coming into the game.

 

[Blender]

Schmid > Deadwood

 

[My3Sons]

I ran the numbers myself since the app/website hadn't updated it and I believe he's down to a .949% from .953% coming into the game.

I wasn’t clear. His percentage in tonight’s game was .939. If only Blackwood hadn’t gotten hurt he would have been at .975 tonight. He’s going to bounce back and that Blackwood doubter is going to eat some serious crow.

 

[Guttersniped]

I kinda feel sorry for Nico Daws at this point, dude did a credible job (at least in the home games) with a shitstorm around him last year as a raw prospect and now he’s more or less been rocketed past by Schmid

I don’t know, it’s probably pretty fluid. It doesn’t take a lot of games for goalies to lose their waiver exempt status, just 60. Daws has already played 25 NHL games while Schmid played 6 last season.

Daws still has another year on his ELC after this, plus he played way less in the AHL last season due to his injury and longer call-up. It was 21 vs 42 regular season AHL games last season, with also Daws getting 4 of the 5 playoff games. It’s 11 vs 4 in the AHL so far this season.

I’m not saying Schmid isn’t playing better now, I assume the team thinks he is, but Daws isn’t being grossly held back considering he hasn’t turned 22 yet.

Schmid has another year on his ELC too and now has 10 NHL games played. They’re both waiver exempt until 2025-26 unless they hit the 60 game played number first.

 

[Bleedred]

I kinda feel sorry for Nico Daws at this point, dude did a credible job (at least in the home games) with a shitstorm around him last year as a raw prospect and now he’s more or less been rocketed past by Schmid

He’ll get a crack if Schmid falters.

I hope that one of them is the backup next year and should one fail, bring the other up.

They’ll be cheap enough.

 

[Bcap88]

He’ll get a crack if Schmid falters.

I hope that one of them is the backup next year and should one fail, bring the other up.

They’ll be cheap enough.

It will also allow Brennan to get some work in the ahl. If Schmid,daws and Brennan pan out we could have a real goalie problem here shortly(in a good way)

 

[glenwo2]

That 2-3 million savings will go a long way towards Bratt’s contract

fixed.

 

[Bleedred]

fixed.

Can you imagine if we couldn't give Bratt quite as much as we wanted because we went and gave Blackwood his qualifying offer next year, thus only giving Bratt yet another one year deal at a lowball-ish figure or trading him so we didn't have to only give him a one year deal that would bring him right to UFA and inevitably walking?

You wouldn't see me for a bit after something like that, as I'd no doubt be Baker Act'ed (those outside the state of Florida are probably not familiar with this) and put into a mental ward, definitely strapped into a straight jacket and all.

Thankfully, I think between yet another injury, Vitek getting the ball and running with it, on top of Schmid playing well and the qualifying offer being an absolute overpayment for what he's brought on this contract, I think the chances of him coming back and getting his qualifying offer are now very low.

However, I will start to panic if he has some Schneider 2019 second half market correction. And that's one of the reasons I constantly bring up Schneider in regards to him. Because if that dumb bullshit, smoke and mirrors stretch didn't happen, then it's highly likely Schneider is either bought out a year earlier (good thing he wasn't, it helps us more now for his buyout hit to end a year earlier and not in 2025) or is not in our plans for the NHL team in 2019-2020 and gets waived after camp.

But due to the fact that he isn't signed for 3 more years or any years after this, and there's no buyout penalty or still having to retain most of his cap hit if he's buried in the minors, this should be a much easier decision to just walk away. Our only loss is losing the last year of team control on a would-be RFA and this player is no more of a loss than losing Colton White and letting him walk after last year.

 

[FooteBahl]

fixed.

 

[glenwo2]

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Because the chances of Bratt re-signing here are far greater than Pasta signing here.

anyway, let's get back to the discussion about Goaltenders :

Blackwood sucks.

Vitek is God

and Akira is his messenger.

 

[Bleedred]

BUMP


Imagine telling Akira to go back to Utica because we have to play a guy that's been shit for 2 years and counting.

I bet Vitek wouldn't even have a shutout if he weren't injured. The other guy would have started the Colorado game that he got a shutout in (remember, he was nursing a sore elbow but still dressed) and probably would have gotten scored on by Martin Kaut, Dryden Hunt or some other rando AHL player for Colorado.

 

[AfroThunder396]

12-2-1
2 SO
.922 SV%
2.10 GAA

That's a 2007 Marty Brodeur stat line

 

[Bleedred]

12-2-1
2 SO
.922 SV%
2.10 GAA

That's a 2007 Marty Brodeur stat line

17-2-1 in games where Blackwood doesn't get the decision.

Yes, he has a winning record, but he also literally has half of our total regulation losses. And he's gotten the decision in only 24% of our total games this season.

 

[Clam Jensen]

Team has the 4th best save % in the league. What a time to be alive.

 

[Omar Little]

Make or break time for Blackwood

 

[Bleedred]

Make or break time for Blackwood

We’re past that.

It’s been “make or break time” for him.

It’s break.

It’s over.

He’s done.

He shouldn’t be here after this year, he’ll be too expensive for what he is.

 

[glenwo2]

We’re past that.

It’s been “make or break time” for him.

It’s break.

It’s over.

He’s done.

He shouldn’t be here after this year, he’ll be too expensive for what he is.

Which is...a Bum.