Value of: Blackwood to the Leafs

[Irie]

Rebound from what? Eakins?

He was a top goalie to start season and faded when Anaheim hit Covid and was starting an ahl roster most nights, then we traded away our top dmen.

You keep saying this in every thread on these boards while trying to sell Gibson. By what metrics are you basing it on?

Through the first three months of the season, Gibson was 11-8 with a .915% save percentage.

John Gibson's stats over the first three months were not even top ten in the league.

 

[egelband]

Blackwood needs a backup role on a good team to get his groove back.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Blackwood needs a backup role on a good team to get his groove back.

I think he just needs to get out of NJ, it just seems like it's time for them to split

 

[Sweetpotato]

Move Mrazek and take a run at both Samsonov and Blackwood and hope one of them hits their potential as a tandem. A lot of cap savings you can use on shoring up the D group.

 

[Brodeur]

It'd be contingent on us adding a new starting goalie through trade or free agency. But I thought Blackwood could be a fit with Toronto and the Devils could hypothetically eat some of the cap hit so Blackwood might be closer to Campbell's 1.65 mil cap hit from this season.

That said, getting another goalie to replace Blackwood isn't a trivial thing and I wouldn't want Mrazek. And we might be kinda stuck with Bernier who should get medically cleared but there's always worries that his hip could act up again.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

It'd be contingent on us adding a new starting goalie through trade or free agency. But I thought Blackwood could be a fit with Toronto and the Devils could hypothetically eat some of the cap hit so Blackwood might be closer to Campbell's 1.65 mil cap hit from this season.

That said, getting another goalie to replace Blackwood isn't a trivial thing and I wouldn't want Mrazek. And we might be kinda stuck with Bernier who should get medically cleared but there's always worries that his hip could act up again.

Unless the Devils add a $10 million contract, they could either buy him out or send him to the AHL if there were another goalie they wanted to add and keep Blackwood.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

As my fellow Devil fans have pointed out if they move Blackwood, they'll need an adequate replacement.

As for my opinion I could see them moving away from Blackwood but they shouldn't be looking for picks and prospects for him unless the prospect is NHL ready.

If they can find a suitable replacement for him in free agency or via trade, they should be looking for a younger NHL ready RHD or a winger with size.

 

[egelband]

I think he just needs to get out of NJ, it just seems like it's time for them to split

Yeah. I just think he needs the right situation to get his mojo back. Similar to Georgiev actually. Talented guys but probably lacking confidence right now.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Cool.

If he doesn’t suck then you have no reason to dump Mrazek. He should be your starter!!

 

[franste Perreault]

They don't need another goalie with no NHL playoff experience.
If they want a goalie they need to look a guy like Fleury, Gibson, Grubauer etc ...

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Mrazek, Holl+ actual value for Blackwood

Maybe a 1st?

I don’t see Blackwood being worth more then a 2nd and I don’t see Mrazek costing much to dump personally. I don’t think Holl holds much value but he fits in on New Jersey pretty much no value but absolutely not negative value. Lots of teams could use a RHD.

Yeah. I just think he needs the right situation to get his mojo back. Similar to Georgiev actually. Talented guys but probably lacking confidence right now.

Personally if the assets are cheap and Mrazek can be dumped for something reasonable then I’d feel content with Georgiev and Blackwood as a tandem BUT I doubt management would go for the lack of experience.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Mrazek, Holl+ actual value for Blackwood

Maybe a 1st?

I don’t see Blackwood being worth more then a 2nd and I don’t see Mrazek costing much to dump personally. I don’t think Holl holds much value but he fits in on New Jersey pretty much no value but absolutely not negative value. Lots of teams could use a RHD.


Personally if the assets are cheap and Mrazek can be dumped for something reasonable then I’d feel content with Georgiev and Blackwood as a tandem BUT I doubt management would go for the lack of experience.

yet you suggest a 1st

 

[HugeInTheShire]

yet you suggest a 1st

I think the upgrade on the value stems from dumping Mrazek in his proposal

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Yeah. I just think he needs the right situation to get his mojo back. Similar to Georgiev actually. Talented guys but probably lacking confidence right now.

Both of them scream good backups/spot starters but I can't see them being good starters. Too inconsistent as players.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

I don't think I'd give up a 1st to dump Mrazek, but my fair GM sure has shown a willingness to so who knows.

If that's the cost, I think I just run with him and hopes he can play like he did in his stint right before his recent injury.

I think we could get a 2nd for Kerfoot, so maybe I would consider using that pick to help move out Mrazek's money. Not expecting other fanbases to take the same leap of faith I'm willing to take.

No idea what Holl's value is. Somewhere around a late 2nd or 3rd I am guessing. Bottom pairing RD on a good D core. Filler player with no real potential imo, but still and NHL guy with length.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

yet you suggest a 1st

We’re also dumping Mrazek here

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

We’re also dumping Mrazek here

I get that but you said you don't think Marazek would cost to much to dump, a 1st is A LOT to dump Marazek.

now if it was a Gibson trade where say Robertson, Marazek and a 1st wewnt the other way and that is a suggestion by ducks fans, not my suggestion.

That would be one thing

But Blackwood isn't there yet, I think he can get there but he's not there yet

 

[Unbiased Fan]

I get that but you said you don't think Marazek would cost to much to dump, a 1st is A LOT to dump Marazek.

now if it was a Gibson trade where say Robertson, Marazek and a 1st wewnt the other way and that is a suggestion by ducks fans, not my suggestion.

That would be one thing

But Blackwood isn't there yet, I think he can get there but he's not there yet

You’re paying a 1st to dump Mrazek and get Blackwood.

 

[egelband]

Both of them scream good backups/spot starters but I can't see them being good starters. Too inconsistent as players.

I agree neither are right to helm a contending team like the Leafs. The Leafs need a legit number one with a track record. A guy like Blackwood would be a good backup in that case though.
Georgiev is another story. Very talented but also sensitive. I’d love a team to give him a real shot to win a starter’s job. But a building team would make more sense for him I think. A situation that can nurture him better than the rangers can/have.

 

[BlueBaron]

Heh, this is an idea that is becoming more interesting with Campbell's future with us in doubt. Problem is this is very scout specific. I can't imagine what our guys think of him or where they rate him but his age checks a big box.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I agree neither are right to helm a contending team like the Leafs. The Leafs need a legit number one with a track record. A guy like Blackwood would be a good backup in that case though.
Georgiev is another story. Very talented but also sensitive. I’d love a team to give him a real shot to win a starter’s job. But a building team would make more sense for him I think. A situation that can nurture him better than the rangers can/have.

If the Devils-Rangers weren't such massive rivals, there'd probably be a deal there. Devils going into next year with a UFA goalie + Georgiev could've been their plan.

 

[Eggtimer]

And that’s why your not paying a ton for gibson, a late 1st…. And a prospect and you get to drop mrazek.

Yes I agree that’s probably the way to go but I’d still be worried about if Gibson can be Gibson from 3-4 years ago.
He should go for a late first plus a prospect but Ducks fans asking price is insane.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Yes I agree that’s probably the way to go but I’d still be worried about if Gibson can be Gibson from 3-4 years ago.
He should go for a late first plus a prospect but Ducks fans asking price is insane.

A lot of duck fans think 1st + prospect…. Some neutral fans say high cost, and obviously you have a few duck fans expecting gibson to get what he woulda got if he was traded 3 years ago.

I think most of us would be going for a 1st + god prospect, and we take back cap to help facilitate

Oilers
1st + Holloway/boulguarts + kassian
Leafs
1st + knies/robertson + mrazek

Is around what I see is getting, knies/Holloway prob unlikely but I think that would be our initial ask. I assume devils, Sabres, and possibly pitt would have interest also

 

[Eggtimer]

Move Mrazek and take a run at both Samsonov and Blackwood and hope one of them hits their potential as a tandem. A lot of cap savings you can use on shoring up the D group.

Leafs can’t gamble on both their goalies. Need one legit proven guy

 

[egelband]

A lot of duck fans think 1st + prospect…. Some neutral fans say high cost, and obviously you have a few duck fans expecting gibson to get what he woulda got if he was traded 3 years ago.

I think most of us would be going for a 1st + god prospect, and we take back cap to help facilitate

Oilers
1st + Holloway/boulguarts + kassian
Leafs
1st + knies/robertson + mrazek

Is around what I see is getting, knies/Holloway prob unlikely but I think that would be our initial ask. I assume devils, Sabres, and possibly pitt would have interest also

Leafs should do that if it’s offered.