GDT: Blackhawks vs Wings again ... but on their ice

[Panzerspitze]

Detroit looked pretty good on that PP.

 

[Sir Loin]

Detroit should have given the Hawks a PP earlier to kill the Hawks momentum.

No shit, right?

 

[BrianE]

Geez..have to keep the puck deeper in the o zone on this pp. Or any for that matter, crap job.

 

[BK]

Vomit.

 

[JaegerDice]

Also, I've been high on Debrincat from day 1, but he's a better play-maker than I thought.

 

[Sir Loin]

They sort of did look like lost dumbasses for the first 40 seconds of the pp

 

[migi]

Pretty open game..

 

[Fortyfives]

Great game by the hawks so far. Though how do the hawks continually leave the other teams forwards wide open in front of the net? Is that a defensemen or forward problem?

 

[Krivo25]

Looking good after 2 let's hope the hawks remember it's a 60 minute game.

 

[JaegerDice]

Caveat of playing a bad team aside, 3 of the 4 lines look really good tonight.

That Wingels-Anisimov-Hartman line though. Woof.

 

[BobbyJet]

Good road second period.

Is it too soon to say:

So the winning streak begins?

 

[Hawkaholic]

Great game by the hawks so far. Though how do the hawks continually leave the other teams forwards wide open in front of the net? Is that a defensemen or forward problem?

Forward typically. 2 Dmen can't cover 3F's down low.

 

[Panzerspitze]

Great game by the hawks so far. Though how do the hawks continually leave the other teams forwards wide open in front of the net? Is that a defensemen or forward problem?

It's a "system" problem.

 

[BobbyJet]

After the first 76 penalties that Detroit has committed, we finally get one called!!!


Decline.

Wings have always been the masters of bending the rules, especially that subtle interference that frustrates ops.

 

[JaegerDice]

Forward typically. 2 Dmen can't cover 3F's down low.

Yeah, backchecking from the forwards has been pretty weak all year. It's odd.

 

[pvr]

Caveat of playing a bad team aside, 3 of the 4 lines look really good tonight.

That Wingels-Anisimov-Hartman line though. Woof.

So very obvious out here. Wingels looks terrible tonight away from the puck, let alone handling it like a grenade.

 

[JaegerDice]

Wings have always been the masters of bending the rules, especially that subtle interference that frustrates ops.

To be fair, the Blackhawks 'borrowed' that subtle interference when they started slowing down. We were doing it almost every game in 2015.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

He's playing a pretty simple game, that last dish notwithstanding. He's getting the puck to his winger almost immediately after carrying it into the zone and then taking a straight line to the net. He was in front on the first 2 goals by Debrincat and Duclair.

He won the faceoff that lead to the one goal too. No word on if it was "key" though.

 

[JaegerDice]

He won the faceoff that lead to the one goal too. No word on if it was "key" though.

Whether a faceoff is 'key' depends entirely on the result. If they won it and a goal was scored, it was 'key'. If they won it and a goal was not scored, it was not 'key'. If they lost it and a goal was scored against, it was 'key'. If they lost it and a goal was not scored against, it was not 'key'.

Pat Foley's lasting impact on the sport will be the perception that almost every goal stems directly from a faceoff result. It's not an accurate perception, but you know what they say about repeating a lie enough times.

Interestingly, we're losing the faceoff battle tonight and winning. We won the faceoff battle last night and lost.

And good and bad faceoff teams are evenly distributed across the standings.

But faceoffs definitely matter.

 

[Panzerspitze]

One "key" FO win in the last 6-7 games. Maybe that particular player needs to be called out on national TV more often. That's what $100 mil for the next 10 years buys you. Yeesh.

He won the faceoff that lead to the one goal too. No word on if it was "key" though.

 

[BK]

Cat has just an incredible release.

 

[pvr]

Cat such a quick release.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

Whether a faceoff is 'key' depends entirely on the result. If they won it and a goal was scored, it was 'key'. If they won it and a goal was not scored, it was not 'key'. If they lost it and a goal was scored against, it was 'key'. If they lost it and a goal was not scored against, it was not 'key'.

Pat Foley's lasting impact on the sport will be the perception that almost every goal stems directly from a faceoff result. It's not an accurate perception, but you know what they say about repeating a lie enough times.

Interestingly, we're losing the faceoff battle tonight and winning. We won the faceoff battle last night and lost.

And good and bad faceoff teams are evenly distributed across the standings.

But faceoffs definitely matter.

I actually think they "matter", at least more than you do. I just don't get the criticism of Toews as he's objectively one of the best in the league.

 

[Sir Loin]

Cat has such an incredibly quick release.

 

[JaegerDice]

I actually think they "matter", at least more than you do. I just don't get the criticism of Toews as he's objectively one of the best in the league.

They're not irrelevant, but 95% of the bell curve in the NHL fall within 45% and 55%. That's a 10% gap over hundreds and hundreds of draws. So you're basically losing roughly half either way. The very very best, at the far tail of the bell curve approach 60% ....so they still lose 2 for every 3 they win.

You're going to lose a lot of draws, both 'key' and otherwise, even if you're literally the best in hockey at it.