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Rumor: Blackhawks' Kevin Hayes on Rangers radar?

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RGY said:
Yeah he is in his ear about how the rangers squeeze every penny out of their young players when they need new contracts...
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Kreider's lucky he earned this contract with his play this year. He was atrocious in the prior year and coming into this year was sent to the minors. Had he not had a fantastic start to his season and a good playoff, he would have gotten significantly less.

It's called business. There's a reason players go off an ELC into an RFA. The league doesn't want 22-23 year olds making Patrick Kane like contracts otherwise the NHL would become unsustainable and teams would begin to fold (see the NASL).

If you understood these concepts you would see that Kreider's deal is more then fair and honestly, he did less then many other players (Stepan, Hags IMO) to deserve that contract.
 
Rust- I just don't follow. Why is KH beat served going to the absolute worst teams to be guaranteed a spot. He would play and not do well at all without any support...

The teams up against the cap have openings, and you get good support. Some time in the AHL wouldn't kill him.

NY would really love his size, he would get a lot of looks here and be developed well to by a top organization.
 
Ola said:
Rust- I just don't follow. Why is KH beat served going to the absolute worst teams to be guaranteed a spot. He would play and not do well at all without any support...

The teams up against the cap have openings, and you get good support. Some time in the AHL wouldn't kill him.

NY would really love his size, he would get a lot of looks here and be developed well to by a top organization.
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The added responsibility allowed him to assume a greater leadership role and work harder. I don't think it is coincidental that he played the way he did in his final year.

I think going to a worse team will allow him to grow as a leader and assume more responsibility.

He'd be fine on our powerplay as a point shot. He'd really have to refine his style of play, though.

He might be too slow for this system on a top 9 role. He's not suited to play a 4th line role. I don't think he's the best fit here... and that's glossing along the fact that we have so many players that are competing for top 9 roles that could come in and do a better job than him.
 
Listen, I get tempering expectations and all, but it's almost getting to the point where people sound like they'd rather the Rangers DON'T sign him. :) I mean, c'mon, we're all excited to see what Haggerty, Bodie, McCarthy and Zamorsky can bring - it's pretty safe to say that Hayes would be a better "free" player than any of him. Solid get if you can get him. I hope they go all out to sign him.
 
AHB said:
Kreider's lucky he earned this contract with his play this year. He was atrocious in the prior year and coming into this year was sent to the minors. Had he not had a fantastic start to his season and a good playoff, he would have gotten significantly less.

It's called business. There's a reason players go off an ELC into an RFA. The league doesn't want 22-23 year olds making Patrick Kane like contracts otherwise the NHL would become unsustainable and teams would begin to fold (see the NASL).

If you understood these concepts you would see that Kreider's deal is more then fair and honestly, he did less then many other players (Stepan, Hags IMO) to deserve that contract.
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Agreed.

Arguing that Kreider got the raw end is crap.
 
The Rangers need size, especially if Nash is now a perimeter player more than a bull.

The Rangers are tiny. Most of their forward prospects are tiny or average.

They need a guy 6'3 or taller to be a net presence. Kreider and Miller can be but they are skill guys with speed.

There's an organizational need for a guy like Hayes.

Its not life or death, but it wont hurt giving him a shot.

He reminds me of John Leclair. Pre-legion of doom leclair.

Its going to take him a few years to become a regular but he's just so dangerous from the hashmarks in.
 
46. For a while now it's been assumed that if 2010 first-round pick Kevin Hayes decides not to sign in Chicago, his first choice would be Florida. That's where his brother Jimmy plays. There are rumblings, though, that the Panthers may choose not to go this route. That makes the favourites Boston (where he went to school) or Pittsburgh (Tom Fitzgerald is a cousin). If he does not sign with the Blackhawks by Aug. 15, he will be a free agent.
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http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/hockey/opinion/2014/07/30-thoughts-nhl-defenceman-cash-in-on-free-agent-frenzy.html

Friedman wrote this on Friday, a few days after Hags tweeted this:

@HackswithHaggs: FWIW, talked to somebody close to Kevin Hayes and sounds like not much of a chance he signs w/CHI. Avs and Preds appear to be lead suitors

https://twitter.com/hackswithhaggs/status/491375590931304448
 
BrooklynRangersFan said:
Listen, I get tempering expectations and all, but it's almost getting to the point where people sound like they'd rather the Rangers DON'T sign him. :) I mean, c'mon, we're all excited to see what Haggerty, Bodie, McCarthy and Zamorsky can bring - it's pretty safe to say that Hayes would be a better "free" player than any of him. Solid get if you can get him. I hope they go all out to sign him.
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As a free asset, great. But i'm also rooting for him to succeed and I think we wouldn't be able to give him the best chance of that as a franchise.
 
I would love to see the rangers give up some form of asset to acquire him if the thought he would sign that way they could keep other teams from making pitches, like they did with tim erixon a few years back
 
BrooklynRangersFan said:
I mean, c'mon, we're all excited to see what Haggerty, Bodie, McCarthy and Zamorsky can bring - it's pretty safe to say that Hayes would be a better "free" player than any of him. Solid get if you can get him. I hope they go all out to sign him.
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This.

Nobody is suggesting that he is a proven commodity that is guaranteed to succeed, but he's a good prospect and if we can add one, we should. You don't refuse to do everything you can to acquire a top prospect just because he may fail. Would you reject a #22 over first round draft choice because whoever you draft will wind up with roughly 50-50 odds of cracking the NHL?
 
Kreider - Stepan - Hayes

...has to be an exciting idea for the guy. It sure is for me!

Maybe he's just the Pouliot replacement with Brass and Zucc. That'd be nice too.
 
Kevin Hayes, the Chicago Blackhawks' 2010 first-round draft pick, likely will not sign with the organization before the Aug. 15 deadline and become an unrestricted free agent, the forward's agent said on Tuesday.

"We're likely going to wait until Aug. 16 and see where things are at that point," agent Robert Murray said. "It's absolutely nothing against the Blackhawks. We just feel this gives Kevin some options.

Hobey Baker Award finalist Kevin Hayes is unlikely to sign with the Hawks by the Aug. 15 deadline.
"This has been a difficult decision for Kevin. He's identified himself with the Blackhawks. He was drafted by them. His brother [Jimmy] played for them. But after his college career, he had a chance to step back and look at everything."
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Murray said Hayes used the July free agent period to evaluate where all the NHL teams stood with their rosters. Murray said Hayes could still sign with the Blackhawks if he becomes a free agent, but Murray also expects Hayes to have other teams interested in him.
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http://espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/stor...s-unlikely-sign-chicago-blackhawks-says-agent
 
He doesn't want to get buried by the depth chart. We have Nash, Marty, Zucc, Kreider, Hagelin, Stempniak, and possibly Fast on the wing. These first 6 are pros who are almost guaranteed roster spots. Fast has pro game experience, which automatically places him ahead of Hayes.

So if the guy doesn't want to be stuck behind players and is looking for a top 6/9 role, he won't get it here. Maybe eventually, but it doesn't seem like he's willing to play in the AHL, so what's the point of us signing him?
 
he wont sign in chi. he wont sign here for same reasons.

our top 6 is set and he isnt really suited for a 3rd line checking role. ive said it before, i dont see him as nhl ready right now and this team looks to be serious about returning to the scf soon. i would expect any roster moves for a winger to be a player who can step right in. in fact, that guy may already be here :naughty:

kevins skating isnt a strong suit. in this system on this team, getting up and down the ice is paramount.

i think he signs elsewhere.
 
n8 said:
Really wonder how Hayes looks like on our salary cap :P
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Shouldn't be any impact at all. Either he'll be in the AHL and off the books, or he'll be in the NHL and someone else will be in the AHL. The net difference will be small. Even if he gets a bunch of performance bonuses, he is unlikely to earn most of them, and any he does earn can be paid off the following year if we don't have enough cap space left to pay them this year.
 
offdacrossbar said:
he wont sign in chi. he wont sign here for same reasons.

our top 6 is set and he isnt really suited for a 3rd line checking role. ive said it before, i dont see him as nhl ready right now and this team looks to be serious about returning to the scf soon. i would expect any roster moves for a winger to be a player who can step right in. in fact, that guy may already be here :naughty:

kevins skating isnt a strong suit. in this system on this team, getting up and down the ice is paramount.

i think he signs elsewhere.
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But we don't employ a 3rd line checking line. Our 3rd line is another scoring line.

Not sure how he doesn't fit here.
 
offdacrossbar said:
he wont sign in chi. he wont sign here for same reasons.

our top 6 is set and he isnt really suited for a 3rd line checking role. ive said it before, i dont see him as nhl ready right now and this team looks to be serious about returning to the scf soon. i would expect any roster moves for a winger to be a player who can step right in. in fact, that guy may already be here :naughty:

kevins skating isnt a strong suit. in this system on this team, getting up and down the ice is paramount.

i think he signs elsewhere.
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This team doesn't run its third line as a checking line though. That's the fourth lines role. Top three lines are scoring lines.
 
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