GDT: Blackhawks @ Canadiens

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PaulD

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How did you come to that question? I'm just saying having a top heavy forward group lets guys like lehkonen play deeper and should give him an easier time. In the past we would try to be 'balanced' but it neutered every line. In that scenario, Lehkonen would be too high in the lineup. In my post, I would want him on the 3rd.

ALSO these are not my lines, they are CJ's

I know. Poor sarcasm on my part. My bad. I enjoy your posts 89.
 

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Even as someone whose been labeled a "Plekanec hater"...I wouldn't say he's useless on a 3rd line and in a defensive role. He's still a strong penalty killer and while I don't agree he's a shutdown centre, he's an effective defensive player to shadow the oppositions best. I just don't think using him 17-18 mins a game simply to do that, is very effective for the team.

That being said, I do think he's useless offensively.

Anyone can kill penalties.
 

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He was snakebitten with Radulov early in the season, but they were generating chances together. Realistically, had Therrien decided to stick with Plekanec through thick and thin the way he has with Danault, I think you could have expected around 50 points from him this season. But there's more to gain at this point to play Danault in that role.

After being taken off the top 6, the offense dried up, but what could you expect really. He's never been the creative type, so you put a Byron and a Shaw on his wings and all you can hope from them is to not give up goals.

30ish points for a defensively sound center isn't that bad. Except we had a far bigger and cheaper one that we decided to let go last summer. ;)

and the bar lowers a little more.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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He was snakebitten with Radulov early in the season, but they were generating chances together. Realistically, had Therrien decided to stick with Plekanec through thick and thin the way he has with Danault, I think you could have expected around 50 points from him this season. But there's more to gain at this point to play Danault in that role.

After being taken off the top 6, the offense dried up, but what could you expect really. He's never been the creative type, so you put a Byron and a Shaw on his wings and all you can hope from them is to not give up goals.

30ish points for a defensively sound center isn't that bad. Except we had a far bigger and cheaper one that we decided to let go last summer. ;)
Plekanec's been snakebitten for a year and a half. At some point it's a decline. And the truth of the matter is that he hasn't been all that dangerous for us at all. It's not like he was creating a whole lot of chances to begin with.

Remember Chris Higgins? That was a guy I was sure was going to be a consistent 30 goal guy. He generated all kinds of chances but just couldn't score. And Plek isn't generating near the offensive chances that Higgins did. At some point it's not luck...
 

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mccaron sitting again...screw mitchell

but the lines are amazing. just the second line lacks a bit of size and is a third line in reality
 

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Plekanec's been snakebitten for a year and a half. At some point it's a decline. And the truth of the matter is that he hasn't been all that dangerous for us at all. It's not like he was creating a whole lot of chances to begin with.

Remember Chris Higgins? That was a guy I was sure was going to be a consistent 30 goal guy. He generated all kinds of chances but just couldn't score. And Plek isn't generating near the offensive chances that Higgins did. At some point it's not luck...

Plekanec isn't generating anything right now... But he was getting chances when he played with Radulov. Just couldn't convert on them.
 

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Maybe we need to go back to old school and play only three lines. Keep the guys who are deadweight on the bench at all times, u less someone gets injured or someone is playing like they are deadweight that night.
 

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I think Claude is giving a veteran like Emelin every chance he can while we're still in the regular season. I don't see him playing Emelin if it was the playoffs right now.
 

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Plekanec isn't generating anything right now... But he was getting chances when he played with Radulov. Just couldn't convert on them.
I don't remember him generating much of anything to be honest. Then again I missed something like the first 8 games when we were on fire so maybe it happened then.
 

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I think Claude is giving a veteran like Emelin every chance he can while we're still in the regular season. I don't see him playing Emelin if it was the playoffs right now.

I think emelin is a CJ kind of player. Although he has been playing poorly for a long stretch, we also know he can play much better. We also saw that CJ didn't bench beaulieu after his mistakes either.

I see a healthy team, and CJ is playing diplomat right now to see what he has in all of them. Emelin sat earlier for Davidson, now it beaulieu's turn. The only guy who seems completely out of favour is nesterov.
 

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Heard on the radio today that CJ gave his reasoning for benching Beau. Said he wants to keep all the guys in the lineup fresh and ready for the playoffs.

Make of that what you will.
 

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mccaron sitting again...screw mitchell

but the lines are amazing. just the second line lacks a bit of size and is a third line in reality

What the second line lacks in size they make up for it with speed, determination and intensity.
 

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I think Claude is giving a veteran like Emelin every chance he can while we're still in the regular season. I don't see him playing Emelin if it was the playoffs right now.

Why use Emelin now and not in the playoffs? Do you mean that he's giving Emelin a chance to redeem himself before the playoffs begin? If that's the case, who's sitting out now while Emelin plays?
 

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I get the feeling CJ isn't a fan of Beaulieu's.
Little PP time very little 3v3 time which are two areas where he is useful...
Just looking at the PP numbers when Beau was paired with Weber compared to what Markov or whoever has provided us since should be relevant but it isn't.
Did he come in with a set impression or is it Muller/Daigneault providing feedback?
 

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Heard on the radio today that CJ gave his reasoning for benching Beau. Said he wants to keep all the guys in the lineup fresh and ready for the playoffs.

Make of that what you will.

He also talked about Beaulieu's 'potential', which sounds like he's saying Beaulieu hasn't lived up to it yet.
 

Lshap

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What the second line lacks in size they make up for it with speed, determination and intensity.

Not to mention good ol' fashioned stick-to-it-ivism and gumption. Sounds like something Foster Hewitt would've said in the 1950s.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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He also talked about Beaulieu's 'potential', which sounds like he's saying Beaulieu hasn't lived up to it yet.
Something like "he can be a good hockey player" right? I think I heard that reported. I didn't hear the actual quote though.
 

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I get the feeling CJ isn't a fan of Beaulieu's.
Little PP time very little 3v3 time which are two areas where he is useful...
Just looking at the PP numbers when Beau was paired with Weber compared to what Markov or whoever has provided us since should be relevant but it isn't.
Did he come in with a set impression or is it Muller/Daigneault providing feedback?

Considering his misuse from this organization from day one of his pro career. I'd say it's Daigneault/Lacroix.
 

V13

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A bit OT but....how is the weather in Montreal right now ? Is it bad ?
 
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