GDT: Blackhawks @ Canadiens

[Lafleurs Guy]

He's a problem in the locker room

He eats his peas one at a time...

Julien is still playing Plekanec as our most used center for most games, when he was in the lineup.

Every single coach makes odd coaching decisions, Julien isn't different than every other coach

I have no problem with Pleks being our most used center if he's logging defensive minutes. I'm on record as saying I want to see a lot more of Galchenyuk but I don't expect that to happen until next year.

And yes, every coach makes odd decisions and every coach will be criticized for it. But not every coach plays DD as their number one for years. THAT's dumb.

 

[Zorba]

Yes, especially against Chicago. Benn or Emelin should sit before him. I don't understand this unless Nate is under the weather?

What's not to understand? He's the least used Dman in minutes. He stinks. He's had a very very average year and right now Benn is a better option to protect in the expansion draft
Beaulieu has been a huge disappointment. Not physical. Doesn't produce points. Average passer. What's he do well to warrant this love??
I'll trust Juliens decision over any poster on here about Beaulieu

 

[habtastic]

I don't like the scratching of Emelin over Beaulieu either, though nice to see Davidson get back in. I think Claude's strategy is really to work with Emelin as much as possible. I don't think he's under the impression that Emelin is playing well; rather, the correct strategy to remedy this isn't to have him in the stands, but to get back out there and keep correcting. I'll say this -- independent of Weber, Emelin was playing some of the best hockey of his career at the beginning of the season. If he can get that player back, it would be akin to a significant acquisition. Maybe CJ is correct -- I hope it pays off.

Plek has been playing well of late (prior to injury), and tbh he really is an important part of this team. I hope he's back, or back soon. I wonder though if we should roll 3 offensive lines, which seems to be the case, or have King on the 3rd line. We expected him to make space for guys like Plek, Gallagher, Byron (the latter I think is actually the toughest, but still). Now, since he hasn't been doing his job THAT well, we have those three on one line.

I think Mitchell is an important guy to have. Why are he and Ott redundant? Completely different skill levels and talents. Mitchell is always a threat to score -- he has better finishing that many on this team, and great speed. But yeah, 4th line is the place for him.

Radulov needs to become Radulove again. Otherwise, everyone on offense is playing pretty well. I have no idea what's going on with the D. Petry is the most mercurial player on the backend.

 

[cap10bfl]

What's not to understand? He's the least used Dman in minutes. He stinks. He's had a very very average year and right now Benn is a better option to protect in the expansion draft
Beaulieu has been a huge disappointment. Not physical. Doesn't produce points. Average passer. What's he do well to warrant this love??
I'll trust Juliens decision over any poster on here about Beaulieu

Beaulieu is full of potential. ... that's it

He has yet to show what he is capable of except for flashes here and there.. besides skating, he's doesn't do anything particularly well... he's an offensive def with no offense

 

[digmor crusher]

No one is asking to fire Julien...quite the contrary, I'm simply pointing out that Julien, just like Therrien (though for now, probably not to the same degree) and just like every other coach, makes odd lineup decisions.

Or just maybe the coach is a better evaluator of talent than HFBoard posters.

 

[cap10bfl]

for me with regards to Beaulieu...I just don't get what he is?

He's not a defensive Dman, he's not an offensive Dman, doesn't generate enough points to be called one.

I guess his best attribute is his skating or more specifically, his puck rushing skills...but only problem with that is nothing comes out of it most of the time.

To me, Beaulieu is just a bottom pairing Dman, I've got no issues with him being scratched.

100% correct.

 

[MXD]

What's not to understand? He's the least used Dman in minutes. He stinks. He's had a very very average year and right now Benn is a better option to protect in the expansion draft
Beaulieu has been a huge disappointment. Not physical. Doesn't produce points. Average passer. What's he do well to warrant this love??
I'll trust Juliens decision over any poster on here about Beaulieu

Doesn't produce points...?!?! What?

 

[Zorba]

Doesn't produce points...?!?! What?

5 career goals. What???! Is that har to understand 55 pts in 214 games. Yea those are terrific stats for 1st round pick who was a point producing d man in the Q. Beaulieu is average at best. Again the love for him is unwarranted. Completely overrated
5 goals. Jesus that's awful

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

My buddy is a hawks fan and they are my 2nd favorite team. We usually go see the game every year when they come to Montreal. Not tonight though and that makes me sad.

Did you see the weather outside?? I am pretty sure that alone will decrease said sadness!

 

[Lebowski]

5 career goals. What???! Is that har to understand 55 pts in 214 games. Yea those are terrific stats for 1st round pick who was a point producing d man in the Q. Beaulieu is average at best. Again the love for him is unwarranted. Completely overrated
5 goals. Jesus that's awful

You don't have to be a shooter to generate offense, and Beaulieu was producing just fine earlier in the season when he was given minutes.

Of course, take him off the PP and have him on the 3rd pair and it's harder to produce.

His production has steadily increased over the years. Weber was at his best this season when paired with Beaulieu. Our PP was at its best this season when Markov was injured and Beaulieu replaced him on the 1st wave. We need his mobility.

The only issue with Beaulieu is people that expected him to follow in Subban's footsteps. He's a fine top 4, or he could be used as one, if given the chance.

 

[MXD]

5 career goals. What???! Is that har to understand 55 pts in 214 games. Yea those are terrific stats for 1st round pick who was a point producing d man in the Q. Beaulieu is average at best. Again the love for him is unwarranted. Completely overrated
5 goals. Jesus that's awful

What about the season that actually matters....
Like, this one.

 

[MXD]

Seriously, that's gold :

- Beaulieu can't put up points!
- Supports Emelin in the lineup instead.

That's about on par with : my leather jacket isn't warm enough for -20 temperatures, so I'll head out in a T-Shirt instead.

 

[Lebowski]

Games under 20 minutes.

37 games, 1 goal, 7 assists, 8 points. An 18 points pace.

Beaulieu in games where he played over 20 minutes:

26 games, 1 goal, 14 assists, 15 points. A 47 points pace.

What a shocker. Give him top 4 minutes and he produces more!

But let's just all keep our heads in the sand and forget about developing young players. Let's play Emelin and Benn instead.

 

[S Bah]

Beaulieu is full of potential. ... that's it

He has yet to show what he is capable of except for flashes here and there.. besides skating, he's doesn't do anything particularly well... he's an offensive def with no offense

Guy Lapointe he's not, having Julien coaching Nate should make quite a difference in his development. Confidence is huge for young defencemen like Beaulieu, the BlackHawks exploited Matt Dumba in their game against Minny. Bad for Dumba's confidence IMHO, he still makes rookie mistakes once in a while. Like I've said Chicago exploits weaknesses, their scouts will be aware of Beaulieu's lapses in defending. Probably one reason Julien is resting Beaulieu, besides seeing how Davidson plays against them IMHO.

 

[Lebowski]

Guy Lapointe he's not, having Julien coaching Nate should make quite a difference in his development. Confidence is huge for young defencemen like Beaulieu, the BlackHawks exploited Matt Dumba in their game against Minny. Bad for Dumba's confidence IMHO, he still makes rookie mistakes once in a while. Like I've said Chicago exploits weaknesses, their scouts will be aware of Beaulieu's lapses in defending. Probably one reason Julien is resting Beaulieu, besides seeing how Davidson plays against them IMHO.

Because Emelin doesn't have defensive lapses..?

 

[MXD]

Games under 20 minutes.

37 games, 1 goal, 7 assists, 8 points. An 18 points pace.

Beaulieu in games where he played over 20 minutes:

26 games, 1 goal, 14 assists, 15 points. A 47 points pace.

What a shocker. Give him top 4 minutes and he produces more!

But let's just all keep our heads in the sand and forget about developing young players. Let's play Emelin and Benn instead.

Not to mention, that 18 pts pace is superior to Emelin's current pace, too. And defensive play is certainly not an argument in favor of Emelin lately.

I understand the need to play Emelin, because he's
- A part of the Top-6
- Whose confidence has hit rock-bottom

Just don't do it at the expense of Beaulieu...

 

[Zorba]

Seriously, that's gold :

- Beaulieu can't put up points!
- Supports Emelin in the lineup instead.

That's about on par with : my leather jacket isn't warm enough for -20 temperatures, so I'll head out in a T-Shirt instead.

What's gold?? Your argument sucks badly.
After the Habs I only watch Canuck games. In 100 less games Hutton has the same amount of goals and 12 less points and was a 5th round pick. Hmmm keep making dumb arguments and defending a very very average D man.
2 goals this year. Jesus that's just awful.
Like I said , ill trust Julien over you anyday of the week especially when it comes to an overrated Dman like Beaulieu
2 goals. Lol

 

[lamp9post]

Shaw's been playing better lately but shouldn't be seeing the first line.

Well, given our depth, if we want to split up Rads and Max, then Max gets Gallagher or Shaw, and Shaw has been better than Gallagher.

 

[Zorba]

You don't have to be a shooter to generate offense, and Beaulieu was producing just fine earlier in the season when he was given minutes.

Of course, take him off the PP and have him on the 3rd pair and it's harder to produce.

His production has steadily increased over the years. Weber was at his best this season when paired with Beaulieu. Our PP was at its best this season when Markov was injured and Beaulieu replaced him on the 1st wave. We need his mobility.

The only issue with Beaulieu is people that expected him to follow in Subban's footsteps. He's a fine top 4, or he could be used as one, if given the chance.

Personally think he's a bottom paring Dman just like Benn but at this point Benn is better. He knows his limitations and the game he needs to play. Beaulieu doesn't have a clue what sorta Dman he is
Him being scratched isn't a big deal
Subban got scratched and hes no Subban

 

[PaulD]

Your sarcasm aside, who would replace him as a defensive center?

anyone but #14 is fine with me.

 

[MXD]

What's gold?? Your argument sucks badly.
After the Habs I only watch Canuck games. In 100 less games Hutton has the same amount of goals and 12 less points and was a 5th round pick. Hmmm keep making dumb arguments and defending a very very average D man.
2 goals this year. Jesus that's just awful.
Like I said , ill trust Julien over you anyday of the week especially when it comes to an overrated Dman like Beaulieu
2 goals. Lol

...And how many goals Emelin has?
Please refrain from using "dumb" to qualify my posts from now on.

 

[The Great Weal]

Pacioretty-Plekanec-Gallagher
Byron-Galchenyuk-Radulov
Lekhonen-Danault-Shaw
Martinsen-Ott-Mitchell
Beaulieu-Weber
Davidson-Benn
Markov-Nesterov

Not sure why Beaulieu is scratched when he has been our 2nd best defensemen. I don't understand why byron-chucky-radu isn't a thing.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Shaw's been playing better lately but shouldn't be seeing the first line.

Shaw is with Plek and Byron per John Lu.

Patch/Chuck/Rad is our top line.

 

[Lshap]

Players just walk around him and then Emelin pushes them into the goalie.

This is the most hilariously accurate and concise description I've ever read. I don't know why I find it so funny... I just do.

 

[PaulD]

Pacioretty-Plekanec-Gallagher
Byron-Galchenyuk-Radulov
Lekhonen-Danault-Shaw
Martinsen-Ott-Mitchell
Beaulieu-Weber
Davidson-Benn
Markov-Nesterov

Not sure why Beaulieu is scratched when he has been our 2nd best defensemen. I don't understand why byron-chucky-radu isn't a thing.

If Plekanec is used as the habs first line center I will root for the Hawks.

Enough is enough man.