Value of: Bishop to WPG
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irunthepeg
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Love Bishop and think he's a phenomenal goaltender but I think the Jets should stick to what they have in Helle/Comrie for the future and see what they have. Getting Bishop would mean we'd probably have to give up at least one of those guys for the future. Also, we still have Hutch in the mix and we're trying to figure out what we have in him.
Dallas just makes much more sense because they're about to enter a more win-now type window whereas we are still bringing in a bunch of our young talent.
Tkachuk4MVP
32 Years of Fail
Small sample size, but did Hellebuyck look like he had the makings of a future #1? Curious because I'd love to see the Jets turn things around (love their players and fans).
Jets have 2 young goalies and are already on the books for 5 million for one goalie they aren't even playing.
Big McLargehuge
Fragile Traveler
Hellebuyck needs to be protected in the expansion draft, so no dice. At least not as a trade candidate.
irunthepeg
Board man gets paid
I believe he was the top NCAA goaltender his last college season and yes from what he's shown in the AHL and his short stints in the NHL he looks like he has a bright future. And Eric Comrie is no slouch either.
Helle will have his growing pains this year in the NHL but one bad rookie season doesn't mean he won't pan out in the long run.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Don't see why Cheveldayoff would be interested in Bishop? It's not like Winnipeg is a playoff contender right now and with Connor Hellebuyck coming up Bishop isn't really needed if Winnipeg was a legit threat these next few years then maybe. Just don't see Bishop being a fit there right now.
DudeWhereIsMakar
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Don't see this working for either side. With the Lightning looking to win the Cup this season and having no need to move Bishop in the first place the price for him is going to be higher than most teams will want to pay, and Winnipeg isn't an elite goalie away from contending and has some promising young talent at the position.
Skiffer55
Logan Stanley's Cup
This. Plus it'd be dumb for us to spend as much on a goalie as Bishop will want.
Curious what would be going the other way?
But I agree I don't think chevy makes that move. Unless helly is the bulk of the value going the other way
But I agree I don't think chevy makes that move. Unless helly is the bulk of the value going the other way
I think Winnipeg is a solid team and with a good goalie to go deep in the playoffs . My opinion of course . all you posts I read you come across as pretty level headed so I would ask your opinion . Don't you thing the Jets are a playoff team with a good goalie ? I really believe their goaltending has been holding them back
They haven't extended Trouba yet and aren't they still carrying cap on Pavelec--where do they get the space for Bishop this year (nevermind his extension)?
Maukkis
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You're right. Any goalie acquisition involves Hellebuyck going the other way, which also means that the trade won't make sense for either team. Hey ho.
Makes no sense to trade for him then have to choose between protecting him and Helle in a few months. Would be better served going after him as a FA if they wanted him.
That said I don't think he's a fit here either. Helle has had great progression in the A, was an All-Star at the WHC and has the makings of a #1. Would rather keep him then give up the assets required to get an upgrade for a season where not much is expected of us.
That said I don't think he's a fit here either. Helle has had great progression in the A, was an All-Star at the WHC and has the makings of a #1. Would rather keep him then give up the assets required to get an upgrade for a season where not much is expected of us.
PetterssonSimp
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It only makes sense if the Bolts are willing to centre the deal around one of the Jets younger goaltenders really. Since Helly is on the team already and hasn't be Raycrofting the starters position and Conroe still in the wings, the Jets are probably set with what they got for now. One of those true Draft/Develop teams.
And we obviously wouldn't, both because we're trying to win now and because we already have Vasilevskiy.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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I absolutely believe that Winnipeg could be a playoff team with a good goalie, I think Hellebuyck will be a very good goalie they definitely have the talent to be a playoff team in a few years. Don't think they're quite there yet. But i definitely feel with the right moves that Cheveldayoff will have this team competing.
Players (Bishop) have NMC for reason. Yea, I'm sure Bishop is waiving his to go from Tampa, a Cup contender to Winnipeg. C'mon man.
I think it depends if he can get an extension in place. We know he was willing to talk to Calgary. How far those talks went is anyone's guess, but (I believe) McKenzie reported Calgary backed off when they learned Bishop's contract demands. So, I don't think it's impossible for Bishop to waive if he believes the team has a lot of young talent. I think it's more likely that WPG, like CGY, won't want to pay him upwards of 7m over 6 years though. And you have to think an agreement will be in place before a move is made, wherever he goes. (Except maybe Dallas?)
Yes, a proven veteran goalie like Bishop would likely push Winnipeg into the playoffs but this isn't a contending year for the Jets with four rookies in the lineup.
I think the Jets are content to see what they have in Hellebuyck this year, while the rest of the team develops. If Hellebuyck does not realize his potential and Comrie doesn't seriously push for an NHL spot, and the Jets window starts to open in 2-3 years, only then would they be sniffing around for a Bishop.
The timing and his contract makes this an undesirable trade for the Jets.
I think the Jets are content to see what they have in Hellebuyck this year, while the rest of the team develops. If Hellebuyck does not realize his potential and Comrie doesn't seriously push for an NHL spot, and the Jets window starts to open in 2-3 years, only then would they be sniffing around for a Bishop.
The timing and his contract makes this an undesirable trade for the Jets.
I think an agreement on an extension would need to be in place for him to go anywhere, including Dallas. First because Bishop's value to the Lightning this season is high enough that no team will want to pay what it would take to get him for only one year of his services. And second because without an extension in place there's really nothing any other team can offer him that would make him want to waive his NMC and leave the Lightning.
