Proposal: Binnington for Skinner+

[WhiskeyEE]

Yup
Watched 3 Oiler games since the break.
Their defence is atrocious. Nurse somehow makes 9.25 per season.
As much as Bouchard puts pts on the board his defensive play is crap and at times lazy

I think Bouchard's limitation is probably mental. Gifted physically, at least offensively, but doesn't seem to process information well enough.

He doesn't strike me as the brightest bulb anyway.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Skinner is a bottom 5 starter in the NHL. You're not getting much for him.

 

[nturn06]

It's funny that some people still think sv% matters that much

And let me guess, we should ignore stats and look instead at looks. Or maybe some of the "hockey analitics" which are highly valued only by people who do not understand.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Yup
Watched 3 Oiler games since the break.
Their defence is atrocious. Nurse somehow makes 9.25 per season.
As much as Bouchard puts pts on the board his defensive play is crap and at times lazy

This is the worst stretch of hockey the Oilers have played in years. I'm not sure what the issue is, but they played much better before the 4 Nations break. Goaltending has been awful all season though.

That said, I can't see St. Louis trading Binnington now. They're in the thick of the wild card race, it doesn't make sense for them to sell.

And let me guess, we should ignore stats and look instead at looks. Or maybe some of the "hockey analitics" which are highly valued only by people who do not understand.

Save percentage isn't really a great stat. There are too many other factors that play into it. You need the "looks" and other stats to really unpack what is going on. An unremarkable goalie can have a wonderful save percentage if his team suppresses quality chances against, and very good goalies can have bad save percentages if they face a high number of quality scoring chances. High save percentages on awful teams are usually a sign of something. Low save percentages on good teams are usually a sign of something as well. Two goalies with similar save percentages, when one is on a team that's biggest statistical issue has been goaltending, tells you something else.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Skinner is a bottom 5 starter in the NHL. You're not getting much for him.

I actually wouldn't mind keeping him as a backup if we could make the money work. He's young, and could use a mentor, and his contract is cheap enough that it wouldn't stand out as outrageous for a backup.

 

[westc2]

The prospects here are worthless to the Blues, and so are both Skinners...so we give up a top 10 goalie in the league for a late 1st round pick in a poor draft year? This is an EA Sports franchise mode trade, not a real life trade.

 

[Pebble live]

Blues surprised me this season to this point. 1 point out the wildcard, mind you with two more games played, but they're not far away. If I'm the Blues I'm looking at adding.

Skinner is an actual joke and the oilers don't have much in the cupboards to make it remotely interesting.

 

[lakai17]

They don't need Skinner, they have a better goalie waiting in Colten Ellis

 

[benfranklin]

Im all in on J Skinner missing the playoffs, but no way he is waiving for STL. You'd have to Saad him somehow.

 

[bucks_oil]

I think Bouchard's limitation is probably mental. Gifted physically, at least offensively, but doesn't seem to process information well enough.

He doesn't strike me as the brightest bulb anyway.

I've probably watched 90% of his games since coming into the league. He's a very smart player - which is starting to allow him to read opponent's offensive plays before they happen (defensive awareness, not a natural thing for him, but it is just the reciprocal of offensive awareness... which he has in spades). And he actually has good positioning once he makes it back to his zone.

His issue is that he cheats for offense at the opponent's blue line and he has TOO MUCH "puck poise"... for most guys, defensive alert alarm bells would be firing off, but Bouch doesn't hear those... that light switch doesn't turn on because he's simply just too confident/optimistic in the risky offensive play he's about to make. His risk tolerance is simply too high.

And once he makes a brutal mistake he's lazy getting back, he sorta gives up on the play and hopes to get there in time for the 2nd rebound.

I actually wouldn't mind keeping him as a backup if we could make the money work. He's young, and could use a mentor, and his contract is cheap enough that it wouldn't stand out as outrageous for a backup.

He's also a perfect complement to Binner... one guy is all 5-bell saves and competitiveness, the other guy calm composed and positional. They'd be a great tandem, that we can't afford.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

So St Louis gets a 1st round pick in June 2026 + stuff of little to no value for their 1G.

The other stuff is negative value. Both Skinners suck bad and the other scraps are worthless…