Biggest Disappointment This Season

Who has been the biggest disappointment in the Oiler Organization this season

  • Jeff Jackson and the summer of our discontent

    Votes: 62 50.4%
  • Evan Bouchard and his pop gun offense

    Votes: 8 6.5%
  • RNH and his season long indifference tour

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • McDavid is not generational

    Votes: 13 10.6%
  • Zach Hyman, this generations Tim Kerr

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • The Skinners, either/and or…you pick

    Votes: 31 25.2%
  • Knoblauch coaching and line up decisions (?)

    Votes: 7 5.7%

  • Total voters
    123
  • Poll closed .
Taylor Hall --> Larsson was a good trade.
Ebs --> Ryan Strome was a good trade.
Not in my opinion at all.

Hall was a PPG player that could score, was fast as the blazing wind and was going to have a good career. We had him contractually longterm at value 6M. Larsson was a supposed shutdown D with offensive upside. He wasn't either here as much as some loved him. Truth is Larsson is far less than Ekholm who we got (without paying a price) and he's better than Larsson in every fricken way. It was idiotic for the club to trade Hall for Larsson. We didn't get value, and in the end we only got a few yrs.

Ebs for Ryan Strome sure, but to further parlay that to Ryan Spooner was laughable.
 
In isolation maybe, but if you're trading Taylor Hall to effectively replace him with Lucic (which was basically the plan) ... that's a disaster.
Not a bad trade at all even if you consider Lucic. The issue was we got Pulju. Now if we drafted Tkachuk, no one would be complaining lol
 
Not a bad trade at all even if you consider Lucic. The issue was we got Pulju. Now if we traded Tkachuk, no one would be complaining lol

Lucic was a disaster and washed by year 2 of his contract.

Obviously if you take Tkachuk, that alters everything.
 
Not in my opinion at all.

Hall was a PPG player that could score, was fast as the blazing wind and was going to have a good career. We had him contractually longterm at value 6M. Larsson was a supposed shutdown D with offensive upside. He wasn't either here as much as some loved him. Truth is Larsson is far less than Ekholm who we got (without paying a price) and he's better than Larsson in every fricken way. It was idiotic for the club to trade Hall for Larsson. We didn't get value, and in the end we only got a few yrs.

Ebs for Ryan Strome sure, but to further parlay that to Ryan Spooner was laughable.
If Hall was still an Oiler, McDavid would still be rooming with him and playing junior hockey. I'm glad we traded a bunch of the golden boys when we did to get rid of that stink. Otherwise we would be in Buffalo position right now hovering in farm land. Overpaying middle 6 players who collect points in garbage time
 
I don't know about that. Larsson has been aging better than Hall and if his dad didn't pass away he would probably still be an Oiler
And if Hall didn't get injured all the time he would still be a top 6 forward. The reality is that Adam Larsson was a terrible defenseman for more than he was an impact defenseman here.
Not a bad trade at all even if you consider Lucic. The issue was we got Pulju. Now if we drafted Tkachuk, no one would be complaining lol
It's bad even without Lucic because Adam Larsson the player was bad. Chiarelli making a donkey draft pick doesn't mean he didn't make a donkey trade on top of that. He's the 2nd worst GM in NHL history for a reason. I can't believe we're at the point where we defend Peter Chiarelli of all people.
Lucic was a disaster and washed by year 2 of his contract.

Obviously if you take Tkachuk, that alters everything.
Disagree, you can have Tkachuk AND Hall and also go get some defensemen that are actually good instead of a defenseman that sucked in Adam Larsson.
 
I don't know about that. Larsson has been aging better than Hall and if his dad didn't pass away he would probably still be an Oiler
Its not a known he would be here longterm. In anycase Larsson is far below Ekholm, and not even missed here.

Even from an entertainment pov the Org had sold thousands of Hall Jerseys. Until McD he was the marquee player here for years. We traded a future MVP level player that was PPG for fun in his prime for a guy that never lived up to billing. Larsson never brought the offense here and outside of one season wasn't shutdown either.

As mentioned the Chiarelli suggestion that the Hall offense was being replaced by Lucic, and lol at the same sticker price makes this even worse asset management and cap management. Plus that the whole thing was blatantly false. "the price you have to pay" was nonsense. Good D are available from time to time. Just wait. Ekholm, Walman, even Kulak additions illustrate that.
 
And if Hall didn't get injured all the time he would still be a top 6 forward. The reality is that Adam Larsson was a terrible defenseman for more than he was an impact defenseman here.

It's bad even without Lucic because Adam Larsson the player was bad. Chiarelli making a donkey draft pick doesn't mean he didn't make a donkey trade on top of that. He's the 2nd worst GM in NHL history for a reason. I can't believe we're at the point where we defend Peter Chiarelli of all people.
Would Knob even play Hall? He would rotate with Jeff Skinner eating popcorns lol
 
Would Knob even play Hall? He would rotate with Jeff Skinner eating popcorns lol
Who said anything about Knoblauch? If the Oilers had Hall from 2016-2021 instead of Larsson we would've been a much better team. Maybe it was for the better that Adam Larsson performed like one of the worst defensemen in the league in 2018 and 2019, because it helped us miss the playoffs and ensure Chiarelli got fired before he did something stupid like trade Draisaitl for Brent Burns/PK Subban.
 
I'm trying to figure out the logic behind thinking Hall for Larsson was a good deal for us. We got a decent defenceman who looked far better than he actually was due to the pitiful group we were running at the time.

We traded a player who won MVP of the entire league (700+ players), two years later.
 
If the universe said, sacrifice Holloway and Broberg in order for the Oilers to hoist some cups, I'd do that every time and not think about memory lane
If the universe said that we would be further ahead now if we wouldn't do dumb things previously, I wouldn't do those dumb things. (And still wouldn't match on Broberg, but would on Holloway to be clear.)

List of things that I wish management wouldn't have done over the last 10 years is pretty long. Are you suggesting nothing done previously you would like a do over, or are you completely satisfied with the moves as done since God knows when....because it looks like we are pretty decent now.

It is OK to be happy where you currently are and still look at a dumb decision and call it dumb.
 
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Yeah just look at our wings right now. Awesome.

This whole situation wouldn't be so damn frustrating if Bowman and his predecessors weren't paid millions of dollars to be complete f***ups.
It's actually crazy. We've had a bottom 5 GM in the league for over 15 years now. Tambellini, MacTavish, Chiarelli, Holland, and Jackson/Bowman are all anywhere from grossly inept to literally contending with Mike Milbury. And we somehow still have the same damn issues we've had since 2010. Namely bad bottom 6 forward production and inconsistent goaltending. The last time we had a GM anywhere close to league average was Kevin Lowe lmfao.
 
Its not a known he would be here longterm. In anycase Larsson is far below Ekholm, and not even missed here.

Even from an entertainment pov the Org had sold thousands of Hall Jerseys. Until McD he was the marquee player here for years. We traded a future MVP level player that was PPG for fun in his prime for a guy that never lived up to billing. Larsson never brought the offense here and outside of one season wasn't shutdown either.

As mentioned the Chiarelli suggestion that the Hall offense was being replaced by Lucic, and lol at the same sticker price makes this even worse asset management and cap management. Plus that the whole thing was blatantly false. "the price you have to pay" was nonsense. Good D are available from time to time. Just wait. Ekholm, Walman, even Kulak additions illustrate that.
Larsson doesn't have to be good as good Ekholm who is one of the premiere defensive Dman in the league. He would still stabilized the Oiler defense to this day.

Who said anything about Knoblauch? If the Oilers had Hall from 2016-2021 instead of Larsson we would've been a much better team. Maybe it was for the better that Adam Larsson performed like one of the worst defensemen in the league in 2018 and 2019, because it helped us miss the playoffs and ensure Chiarelli got fired before he did something stupid like trade Draisaitl for Brent Burns/PK Subban.
We all knew that with Hall's playstyle he would be injury prone. There's a reason why he's known as the 1st overall getter. Every team he's on you're getting the 1st overall.

I don't know about you but I like this look of this defense.

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Walman
Kulak-Larsson
 
It's actually crazy. We've had a bottom 5 GM in the league for over 15 years now. Tambellini, MacTavish, Chiarelli, Holland, and Jackson/Bowman are all anywhere from grossly inept to literally contending with Mike Milbury. And we somehow still have the same damn issues we've had since 2010. Namely bad bottom 6 forward production and inconsistent goaltending. The last time we had a GM anywhere close to league average was Kevin Lowe lmfao.
We don't even need Avalanche/Lightning level of management. I'd settle for like, Carolina or LA. Mediocre management/drafting/development and this team is already a champion. Every year we don't win the window closes a bit more and it looks more closed than open at this point.
 
If the universe said that we would be further ahead now if we wouldn't do dumb things previously, I wouldn't do those dumb things. (And still wouldn't match on Broberg, but would on Holloway to be clear.)

List of things that I wish management wouldn't have done over the last 10 years is pretty long. Are you suggesting nothing done previously you would like a do over, or are you completely satisfied with the moves as done since God knows when....because it looks like we are pretty decent now.

It is OK to be happy where you currently are and still look at a dumb decision and call it dumb.
I'm not sure how far the Oilers will be in the standing with a 20 man roster if we matched Holloway
 
Larsson doesn't have to be good as good Ekholm who is one of the premiere defensive Dman in the league. He would still stabilized the Oiler defense to this day.


We all knew that with Hall's playstyle he would be injury prone. There's a reason why he's known the 1st overall getter. Every team he's on you're getting the 1st overall.

I don't know about you but I like this look of this defense.

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Walman
Kulak-Larsson
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Just to be clear. This is the player you believe was and would be stabilizing the Oilers defense?
 
Larsson doesn't have to be good as good Ekholm who is one of the premiere defensive Dman in the league. He would still stabilized the Oiler defense to this day.


We all knew that with Hall's playstyle he would be injury prone. There's a reason why he's known the 1st overall getter. Every team he's on you're getting the 1st overall.

I don't know about you but I like this look of this defense.

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Walman
Kulak-Larsson
Larsson personality would never allow him to either want, agree to, or be effective in a third pairing. He'd never do that or agree to that. Larsson is that type of player (a lot are like this) that needs minutes to feel games, to get to his best game. Nor would I think advisable to have a 5.25M contract playing bottom pairing. I thought you liked Larsson? ;)

Myself I'm fine seeing Adam be with the nothing Kraken. Enjoy never seeing playoffs again Adam.
 
Its a learned condition, it isn't an attribute. Any Canadian fans, some more than others would have some similar ptsd in a 32yr shutout of Canadian clubs.

That you see this as some kind of fan blight is interesting considering no club has a fanbase as enthused as this one to spend thousands of bucks on tickets.

This is also the org that sold Wayne Gretzky, that drafted Steve Kelly instead of Shane doan with the draft located at Rexall and home fans chanting Doan, Doan, Doan.

Now more recently the club loses its best prospects, multiple, to offer sheets and trades another, same offseason. The team that traded Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle for assets decreasing to a Ryan Spooner.

A team that hired Dallas Eakins as headcoach, Chiarelli as manager "to get it right this time" and hired an investigated Bob Nicholson as manager. Out of politeness I won't expand on Bowman.

The fan bashing could probably stop.
I like our team. And I think some of us get tired of looking at dumb shit, call it dumb shit and get criticized for calling out dumb shit.

And I totally concede that if losing McLeod, Foegele, Holloway turns into a cup, then it all works out in the end. Kudos to the management. I can still not like the moves at the time.

I guess guys like Drivesaitl and I are a little jaded. :)
 
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Yes

Larsson had down years but for most of his career as an Oiler and until now he's good enough for the top 4
Most of his career as an Oiler was an unmitigated disaster. You can argue that was because his dad died here, but that's not something that was gonna magically change. He was simply never going to play as well here as he did on the 2022-23 Kraken and even his Kraken career has been mediocre as hell. Hall 2017-18 alone added more value than Larsson's entire post Devils career.
 
I'm not sure how far the Oilers will be in the standing with a 20 man roster if we matched Holloway
I think it would have taken not spending all the extra money on Skinner and Arvidsson. I don't have the wherewithal to see exactly what our roster and cap situation was at that moment, but it would be hard to convince me that Holloway at $2.2 was an impossibility.
 
I like our team. And I think some of us get tired of looking at dumb shit, call it dumb shit and get criticized for calling out dumb shit.

And I totally concede that if losing McLeod, Foegele, Holloway turns into a cup, then it all works out in the end. Kudos to the management. I can still not like the moves at the time.

I guess guys like Drivesaitl and I are a little jaded. :)
The Oilers have seriously some of the worst management in the league. If McDavid didn't land here 2006 is still our last playoff year. Can you imagine missing the playoffs for nearly 2 decades?


I think it would have taken not spending all the extra money on Skinner and Arvidsson. I don't have the wherewithal to see exactly what our roster and cap situation was at that moment, but it would be hard to convince me that Holloway at $2.2 was an impossibility.
The weird thing was that when they traded Ceci and freed up his cap space I was convinced they were doing that to sign Holloway. ...And then they didn't in the name of cap space.

There's just no foresight here. At all.
 
I think it would have taken not spending all the extra money on Skinner and Arvidsson. I don't have the wherewithal to see exactly what our roster and cap situation was at that moment, but it would be hard to convince me that Holloway at $2.2 was an impossibility.
I agree with you to some extent. I'm okay with signing Skinner and Arvidsson. Signing Skinner to 3M was excessive as he's still getting paid by Buffalo and Arvid I was hoping around 3M. So yes, we could have saved 2M and gotten at least Holloway signed if we were more cautious of the dollars on Skinner and Arvid.
 
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