Biggest Disappointment This Season

Who has been the biggest disappointment in the Oiler Organization this season

  • Jeff Jackson and the summer of our discontent

    Votes: 60 50.4%
  • Evan Bouchard and his pop gun offense

    Votes: 8 6.7%
  • RNH and his season long indifference tour

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • McDavid is not generational

    Votes: 13 10.9%
  • Zach Hyman, this generations Tim Kerr

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • The Skinners, either/and or…you pick

    Votes: 29 24.4%
  • Knoblauch coaching and line up decisions (?)

    Votes: 7 5.9%

  • Total voters
    119
  • This poll will close: .
Biggest disappointment this season has been losing Holloway for what 750k gap in negotiations. Call it a Jackson / Bowman fail or Holloways greed but it's been the biggest loss.

He is one player I would like to see injured. Only way to make the low 3rd round compensation we received somewhat fair.
 
The Oilers had from trade deadline to July 1 to pro-active engage in their RFA's who stepped up in a deep Cup run. Then they had another month and a half in a competitive market to negotiate or do anything with these two players. They made a bad decision to do nothing. Even after having extensive trade discussions just months before on these two players reinforced external interest in them. Not coincidently with the team and GM who bought low on both of them because the Oilers spent their money on July 1.

Do nothing and hope was certainly a strategy. Unfortunately Jeff and company missed all the signals of a growth cap market and external interest in two vulnerable free agents, notably one guy that was public with a trade request for like half the season. Spend all your money and leave an opening for something that's never happened before but then does. Deal with these players pro-actively coming through a Cup run and assess their interest in re-signing with progressive negotiation and you've got a chance. Do nothing until mid August and, well, I guess there was a chance after all. We see once again that Oiler management is bad at decision making. Top 6 forward and a top 4/maybe ultimately top pair d man given away for 2nd and 3rd round draft picks.

Funny the lengths that some go to defend poor management. Then complain endlessly about the goaltending. That too is a management choice before the money got spent this summer.
Broberg wanted out and at 4M+ per its good riddance.
Holloway was a true miss and I bet his Flames loving parents/siblings played a big part in him singing the offersheet.

f*** the holloways.
 
In the long run Broberg is going to be the bigger missed opportunity.

It's a shit sandwich.
We don't have the long run. Broberg would've been behind Kulak especially with the types of mistakes he makes. Would've been a natural replacement for Ekholm in a couple yrs but we just couldnt keep him at 4.25M per or even at 2.5M per. We were shopping him last deadline but as per reports he wasn't even worth a 2nd rd pick or an equivalent prospect to any team.

Holloway with his skillset might get more considerations for team canada Olympics than Hyman. A true miss @ 2M per
 
Broberg wanted out and at 4M+ per its good riddance.
Holloway was a true miss and I bet his Flames loving parents/siblings played a big part in him singing the offersheet.

f*** the holloways.
The Oilers management had ample time to get ahead of the offer sheet. The player had a standing trade request and they did nothing except bury their heads in the sand hoping everything would work out. Even more reason to be pro-active while they had exclusive rights to smoke out if a deal could be made or not. Concurrently explore trade options that naturally begin with teams they've talked to about these players this season and last. Jackson worked with Broberg's agent so should also have had a better read of his aggressive nature and intent. Clearly they didn't have a read on Holloway.

It's terrible asset management for a franchise that's starving for young talent. The McLeod deal is an example of at least pro-actively managing a young NHL asset, carving cap space, and returning a high pedigree near NHL ready one who can play within this finite winning window. It's maybe a different conversation if the Oilers pipeline is deep in prospects and draft collateral. This trade deadline they were in the market for all position areas, top four d-man, bottom six physical players, and even top six skill wingers because of the mess made this summer. And that's without talking goaltending.

Do nothing and hope I guess was a plan. Then August came along and the competitive market acted to exploit obvious vulnerability.
 
Last edited:
Again, revisionist history, Broberg didn’t want out, he wanted to play, that trade request during last season was to stop the AHL-NHL shuttle when he was clearly NHL level, even if coaching didn’t want to risk it.

Agree, why did Jackson let it get to an offer sheet, you don’t lowball your RFAs and act surprised when they sign offer sheets. Guess he was too busy handing out NMCs to lower end bit players.
 
We don't have the long run. Broberg would've been behind Kulak especially with the types of mistakes he makes. Would've been a natural replacement for Ekholm in a couple yrs but we just couldnt keep him at 4.25M per or even at 2.5M per. We were shopping him last deadline but as per reports he wasn't even worth a 2nd rd pick or an equivalent prospect to any team.

Holloway with his skillset might get more considerations for team canada Olympics than Hyman. A true miss @ 2M per
Problem with this thinking is that it cost us a first rounder to replace Broberg with Walman and we only get him for another season. We would have retained Broberg’s rights even with a bridge contract.

And he showed he was capable in the postseason, and his play with the Blues doesn’t put him behind Kulak.

So Jackson botched his signing, lost him on an offer sheet, had to scramble to bring in a bunch of #7s to ice a team this fall and spend a first rounder to replace him for a player who’s a UFA after next season. That’s bad use of assets no matter how you slice it.
 
Last edited:
We don't have the long run. Broberg would've been behind Kulak especially with the types of mistakes he makes. Would've been a natural replacement for Ekholm in a couple yrs but we just couldnt keep him at 4.25M per or even at 2.5M per. We were shopping him last deadline but as per reports he wasn't even worth a 2nd rd pick or an equivalent prospect to any team.

Holloway with his skillset might get more considerations for team canada Olympics than Hyman. A true miss @ 2M per
Oh my god stop with this "Broberg would be behind Kulak" cope. He's a vastly superior player to Kulak and showed that when he finally played in the playoffs last year. The only reason he was behind Kulak was because this organization has a crippling, terminal diagnosis bias towards veterans. It's the same reason we were playing useless bums over Holloway and costed ourselves a young, top 6, all situations, two-way forward with speed and physicality.

Broberg wanted out and at 4M+ per its good riddance.
Holloway was a true miss and I bet his Flames loving parents/siblings played a big part in him singing the offersheet.

f*** the holloways.
Or maybe Holloway's parents/siblings wanted him to go to a place that would actually respect his abilities and give him the playtime/linemate opportunities that he deserved? Calgary's greatest player in franchise history is from Edmonton and the best Oiler of the early 2010s is from Edmonton. They would've been perfectly happy to have him play his entire career in Edmonton if we weren't scratching/demoting him for bums like Henrique, Brown, and Ryan, and we didn't give his money to Jeff Skinner.

F*** Ken Holland and F*** Jeff Jackson.
 
Last edited:
Again, revisionist history, Broberg didn’t want out, he wanted to play, that trade request during last season was to stop the AHL-NHL shuttle when he was clearly NHL level, even if coaching didn’t want to risk it.

Agree, why did Jackson let it get to an offer sheet, you don’t lowball your RFAs and act surprised when they sign offer sheets. Guess he was too busy handing out NMCs to lower end bit players.
Stauffer has been pretty clear that Broberg still wanted a fresh start.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TB12
With hindsight, the Oilers gave Broberg the correct developmental path whether he thought was yoyo-ed
This is kinda the point with both Holloaway & Broberg. The Oilers handled both these guys perfectly. But the NHL society changed slightly & they were the victims. One can argue that they should have seen it coming, but to some degree its understandable they diidnt as it was pretty much unique that it did..
I do remember fondly all the usual suspects bitching, bitching, bitching about how they had f'd up the picks.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TB12 and Canovin
With hindsight, the Oilers gave Broberg the correct developmental path whether he thought was yoyo-ed
Did they? Him and Bouchard did quite well together back in 2022-23. Who's to say he doesn't hit his current level on the Blues even earlier with more NHL reps? His playoff performances last year certainly showed a player that belongs in this league, we just needed to have equal standards for all players. Guys like Holloway and Broberg make one mistake and they're benched/scratched/sent down, when guys like Brown, Janmark, Ryan, Kulak, and Ceci make far more egregious mistakes on the regular with zero consequences. Heck Brett Kulak single handedly lost us Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final with his poor gap control and came out of it scot-free.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dawunderboy
This is kinda the point with both Holloaway & Broberg. The Oilers handled both these guys perfectly. But the NHL society changed slightly & they were the victims. One can argue that they should have seen it coming, but to some degree its understandable they diidnt as it was pretty much unique that it did..
I do remember fondly all the usual suspects bitching, bitching, bitching about how they had f'd up the picks.
even if they didn't see it coming, they should have matched
abysmal asset management
 
Did they? Him and Bouchard did quite well together back in 2022-23. Who's to say he doesn't hit his current level on the Blues even earlier with more NHL reps? His playoff performances last year certainly showed a player that belongs in this league, we just needed to have equal standards for all players. Guys like Holloway and Broberg make one mistake and they're benched/scratched/sent down, when guys like Brown, Janmark, Ryan, Kulak, and Ceci make far more egregious mistakes on the regular with zero consequences. Heck Brett Kulak single handedly lost us Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final with his poor gap control and came out of it scot-free.
Broberg and Holloway were 21 and 22 when they were with the Oilers in the playoffs. That's part of learning. You gotta outplay the vets. It has always been like this with every team.

Their play in the playoffs was a perfection indication to them that the Oilers slow cooked them and it worked. Be grateful that it turned out that way but instead they held out for an offersheet and teamed up to screw the Oilers over.

Broberg was never going to steal the jobs on the left side with Ekholm, Nurse and Kulak in the way but the #2RD spot was his for the taking. There was always opportunity on the Oilers, He just has to not suck.
 
Broberg and Holloway were 21 and 22 when they were with the Oilers in the playoffs. That's part of learning. You gotta outplay the vets. It has always been like this with every team.

Their play in the playoffs was a perfection indication to them that the Oilers slow cooked them and it worked. Be grateful that it turned out that way but instead they held out for an offersheet and teamed up to screw the Oilers over.

Broberg was never going to steal the jobs on the left side with Ekholm, Nurse and Kulak in the way but the #2RD spot was his for the taking. There was always opportunity on the Oilers, He just has to not suck.
They were already outplaying the vets. If you had eyes you could tell that Holloway and Broberg were already better than the likes of Connor Brown, Derek Ryan, Cody Ceci, and Brett Kulak last year. The difference is that when Holloway/Broberg blew a coverage or had a giveaway they would get benched while Brown or Ceci single handedly losing us a game would get them a hug and more minutes to help them "break out of their slump". Holloway and Broberg becoming better than Hyman and Nurse was certainly not something most of us saw coming, and maaaaybe the "slow cooking" caused that to happen. I'm of the opinion that we prevented it from happening earlier by not giving them the opportunities. Regardless of how you think the development went, the reality is that their level of play was above that of players who got more ice time and games. The Oilers are not a team that awards playtime and opportunities based on merit, they award it based on the colour of your beard and how old you are. See also: Michael Kesselring.
 
Walman alone is better than both lol
That very much remains to be seen, but having those two throughout the entire season would be infinitely more preferable to this. We would probably be higher up in the standings.

I remember we were touting about how amazing of a get Emberson was and now he's not even in the lineup.
 
They were already outplaying the vets. If you had eyes you could tell that Holloway and Broberg were already better than the likes of Connor Brown, Derek Ryan, Cody Ceci, and Brett Kulak last year. The difference is that when Holloway/Broberg blew a coverage or had a giveaway they would get benched while Brown or Ceci single handedly losing us a game would get them a hug and more minutes to help them "break out of their slump". Holloway and Broberg becoming better than Hyman and Nurse was certainly not something most of us saw coming, and maaaaybe the "slow cooking" caused that to happen. I'm of the opinion that we prevented it from happening earlier by not giving them the opportunities. Regardless of how you think the development went, the reality is that their level of play was above that of players who got more ice time and games. The Oilers are not a team that awards playtime and opportunities based on merit, they award it based on the colour of your beard and how old you are. See also: Michael Kesselring.
Holloway and Broberg were fringe NHL players up until the playoffs. You can make a case with those timely goals, Holloway was better than Brown, Ryan. But Brown had his timely shorties too. Broberg was better than Kulak for one series, Kulak was more reliable for most of the playoffs.

The playoffs they had should erase any doubts they had or what the Oilers had in them. If they were upset about the things prior to the playoffs well I'm glad they're not on the Oilers anymore. It's part of development. That's like a kid holding a grudge against their parents for the 1% time they had to discipline the kid and not look at the bigger picture that 99% of the time was all love.

To me it's quite clear, Holloway and Broberg benefitted from their time in the AHL. To think they would have been better if they started in the NHL sooner isn't being realistic.
 
That very much remains to be seen, but having those two throughout the entire season would be infinitely more preferable to this. We would probably be higher up in the standings.

I remember we were touting about how amazing of a get Emberson was and now he's not even in the lineup.
Who cares about the standings lol

With Walman, Frederic, Jeff Skinner, Pods, Arvid, Kapanen give us a better chance at the cup than Holloway and Broberg
 
adding hide avatars option

Ad

Ad