Injury Report: Big Buff Discussion

[DashingDane]

If he didn't screw us over, he certainly didn't do us any favor!

That's fair!

So far everything is speculation though. Until I have both sides of the story (or any sides ) his legacy is in tact in my book.

 

[Mud Turtle]

Good riddance! Big Buff screwed the Jets 19-20 season, no hero of mine!

Welcome back Sip. Your absence had me scared!

 

[Upperdeckjet]

That's fair!

So far everything is speculation though. Until I have both sides of the story (or any sides ) his legacy is in tact in my book.

I'm afraid I can not agree that his legacy is in tact. Buff chose to handle this his way and now he will be judged.
He could have gone out an absolute hero. Winnipeg Jet fans will remember how his time with us came to an end.
Maybe he will have something to say after the legal implications no longer matter. Until then, he has disappointed this one Jets fan.

 

[John Agar]

Well... I think I can finally comment on moving forward about Buff...

My favorite Jet... as a hockey player and as the unique player and personality he was on the ice...

I am really going to miss Buff... I wish him good health in the future and the best for his family...

Now for Chevy to get busy only with deals that make sense for our Defense core for next year...

I really do not believe there is much that should be done this year until possibly going into draft day and July 1st...

I am very happy this is going to be resolved cap wise...

If Chevy can also divest us of a couple other cap-anchors on this team we will be in a great position to upgrade through the draft and free agency our D'core and possibly a centreman...

Buff you were a gem... Godspeed...

Go Jets Go !!!

 

[ffh]

Please, don't ever compare Weber and Buff. One has a deep commitment to hockey and consistently tries to keep himself in elite athletic shape. Buff although trying harder after the passing of his grandfather, can never be called a gym rat. Also Weber wasn't trade bait, there is zero chance he gets moved due to his contract regardless of health now. How long did you google looking up that asinine comparison?

You have no idea how many years Buff has left in him. Chevy has a much better idea than you of what's going on personally with Buff, and also the injury history he has. Ignoring any "insider info" we have a player who has a history of not taking fitness properly, has a season and a half's worth of injuries piling up, is soon to be 35, and has one year at 7.6 mil on his cap hit. Buff has zero trade value at the moment, and you're proclaiming we should take him to an arbiter, force a decision, then hope he's healthy enough and enough teams are interested that we get something of value for him in the offseason when he's healthy?

And also that those things don't last past the draft and July 1st.

Again, smart decisions on your part.

Chevy can be kicked to the curb with Maurice for all I care. I don't cling emotionally to the people in charge of a sports team I like, unlike yourself.

I will compare him to weber. When buff was healthy he was a beast. Usually guys that are washed up like you think are bad even when healthy. To call buff washed up cause he has had a couple of injuries is ridiculous. Dont know if he wants to retire or not but if he wants to play there will be a long list of teams wanting to sign him un the summer. But because Chevy might want to salvage a season he has already sabotaged by his inaction it looks like he might want to forfeit all we could get for buff in the summer for a failed try now that will cost us assets not get us any. Hope your boy Chevy knows buff is retiring although they failed to mention that in article.

 

[DashingDane]

I'm afraid I can not agree that his legacy is in tact. Buff chose to handle this his way and now he will be judged.
He could have gone out an absolute hero. Winnipeg Jet fans will remember how his time with us came to an end.
Maybe he will have something to say after the legal implications no longer matter. Until then, he has disappointed this one Jets fan.

I understand the disappointment. I just can't get angry when we know nothing about what happened yet. We don't even know if Buff was the one that chose to handle it this way... So far everything we have heard from media is as credible as the Jets fans saying the ruffled feathers were because of x player sleeping with x players wife last season.

If he actively screwed over the season, then sure, I'd understand the animosity but we just don't know yet.

 

[MrBoJangelz71]

I was bringing up a theory. Not saying it was true. I think its totally reasonable to consider that he didnt like how the defense was shaping up

The theory is weak. This team healthy and with Buff in the lineup is a playoff team.

And unless he signs with another team, my theory is he had a couple of bad injuries last season that took their toll on Buff, and his desire to play the game dwindled as a result, to retirement.

 

[Teemusalami204]

The theory is weak. This team healthy and with Buff in the lineup is a playoff team.

And unless he signs with another team, my theory is he had a couple of bad injuries last season that took their toll on Buff, and his desire to play the game dwindled as a result, to retirement.

Your theory is weak as well. Just as weak as mine. If buff had a chance at a cup theres a good chance he would of pushed himself

 

[ICdave]

Interview with Frank Seravalli on 1290 today:

1. What is happening between the Jets and Byfuglien's camp?
2. What is in it for Dustin Byfuglien to agree with this move?
3. What is the difference between this and Byfuglien simply retiring?
4. Is it safe to say he's played his last game for the Winnipeg Jets or if it possible he could play for them again?
5. What changed/happened that this has reached the point of contract termination?
6. Does he think the cap space the Jets have will get used this season or in the offseason?

To listen click here.

 

[MrBoJangelz71]

Your theory is weak as well. Just as weak as mine. If buff had a chance at a cup theres a good chance he would of pushed himself

Lol, seriously?

My theory has a broken ankle and a concussion to back it up, while yours has your desire to pin this on coaching or management, with absolutely nothing else.

A buggerred ankle and migraines kills whatever need he would have to chase another cup.

 

[Jets 31]

thanks buff for helping us miss out on the tyler myers albatross of a contract

And Ladd .

 

[Teemusalami204]

Lol, seriously?

My theory has a broken ankle and a concussion to back it up, while yours has your desire to pin this on coaching or management, with absolutely nothing else.

A buggerred ankle and migraines kills whatever need he would have to chase another cup.

I dont find it hard to believe that losing half of the defense with no improvements was maybe a tipping point for a guy who went through a few injuries the previous year.

 

[Buffdog]

Crazy idea here... but what if the foot injury isn't the same as the one he had last season and was actually something he suffered in the summer on his own?

 

[Jets 31]

I really think Byfuglien knew he couldn't play like he did , the concussion made him think about his future and said he'd had enough . Chevy even said take your time and think about it , Byfuglien did and thought he didn't want to play anymore . He's made millions of dollars and has won a cup , if he's lost the love of the game why would we want to see him go out playing like that .

 

[kanadalainen]

Even Vegas?

Oh god please not that. Put him on the leafs before that.

 

[Howard Chuck]

I wish buff well and time to move on. How are we going to spend those millions!

 

[JetsNut]

I still think it's a bubble team imo. Without Buff we at least get a slightly higher pick. Don't get me wrong, I'd have preferred to have him play as he is one of the most entertaining hockey players I've ever seen play but the notation that he somehow screwed over the Jets whole season by sitting out is ridiculous.

How do you figure that? Had he not done what he did then he would have made a big difference. If at very minimum he would have informed Chevy of his intentions, then we would have kept Chiarot.

If you don’t think that it would have made a difference then that’s what’s ridiculous.

 

[Whodey204]

I dont see any value in the Jets terminating his contract. Cap space is meaningless now, this season is already lost.

Not sure why Chevy would give up the asset for nothing

 

[Whileee]

What's the technical difference between this and retiring? Obviously the contract termination will make him an immediate UFA, how does it work if he retires?

With Kovalchuk from what I can see he was no longer NJ's rights after turning 35, since Buff is turning 35 in a month is there any real material difference between him retiring and just getting his contract terminated to become a UFA?

Don't think he could sign with another team if he retired, at least for se time.

 

[JetsNut]

If this is what it looks like then we know this. Buff once again showed up to training camp out of shape after a summer long bender.

When he was called on it he didn’t like it and told management where to go as only he can. When he thought about it more he tried to screw over the organization by saying his injury was linked to his prior ankle issue so he would get paid.

After mounting pressure from the Jets to get this dealt with in time for the trade deadline, it finally set in that his bluff was going no where.

Goodbye and good riddance!

 

[KingBogo]

I dont see any value in the Jets terminating his contract. Cap space is meaningless now, this season is already lost.

Not sure why Chevy would give up the asset for nothing

There is no asset anymore. Teams don’t give up assets for a guy ready to call it a career. Buff hasn’t skated in 10 months and doesn’t seem anywhere near committing to rehabbing to the point of returning. At this point cap space is the asset Chevy needs to secure. Even if you have given up on this season there is next season to consider.

 

[Teemusalami204]

There is no asset anymore. Teams don’t give up assets for a guy ready to call it a career. Buff hasn’t skated in 10 months and doesn’t seem anywhere near committing to rehabbing to the point of returning. At this point cap space is the asset Chevy needs to secure. Even if you have given up on this season there is next season to consider.

Or saving his cap hit to make sure the team doesnt lose money. No garuntee we spend buffs cap.

 

[KingBogo]

Or saving his cap hit to make sure the team doesnt lose money. No garuntee we spend buffs cap.

Could be but I’d bet they use at least some of it this season and all of it next.

 

[Teemusalami204]

Could be but I’d bet they use at least some of it this season and all of it next.

We will use it next year for sure. This year is a little trickier. We dont have many assets to move. Unless it's a top 6 forward or one of our 3 prospects that are worth anything.

Maybe we go on a winning streak and Chevy trades our first. But it seems that we will most likely miss playoffs and buffs cap will help us break even

 

[Hunter368]

There is no asset anymore. Teams don’t give up assets for a guy ready to call it a career. Buff hasn’t skated in 10 months and doesn’t seem anywhere near committing to rehabbing to the point of returning. At this point cap space is the asset Chevy needs to secure. Even if you have given up on this season there is next season to consider.

Agreed. I'm perfectly fine with them terminating the contract, cap is an asset. Hoping the Jets pick up 2-3 bad contracts for picks, trade away a few vets for picks and stock up on picks. Then rebuild the D via trade & FA between now and next season. Plus we get a good 1st Rd pick. Bob's your uncle, keep building.