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I am not convinced that new housing tower will have many season ticket holders or many ticket purchasers come to that, so not sure how it helps the Jets?
Eh… including the Yotes playing in a college arena within that stat makes it worthless.FWIW of the 53 least-attended NHL regular season games so far this season (the only 53 games sub-11k) the Jets were the home team in none of them.
40 for Arizona.
13 for San Jose.
No you couldn’t just put a team anywhere. There’s a reason why the NFL doesn’t have teams in Tuscaloosa, AL; Athens, GA; & Columbus. Jacksonville & Carolina are kind of messes.NFL is kind of funny though because lets face it - you could put a team almost anywhere and it would be successful. The NFL is just that popular (and it helps games are only once per week). People will travel to see a team. Birmingham isn't all that big, but they'd draw fans from all over Alabama. That's how Green Bay works - the team is in Green Bay for historical reasons, but they're basically the Milwaukee Packers.
Seeing that TNSE is capable of going ahead with the project shows how financially strong they are.I am not convinced that new housing tower will have many season ticket holders or many ticket purchasers come to that, so not sure how it helps the Jets?
No you couldn’t just put a team anywhere. There’s a reason why the NFL doesn’t have teams in Tuscaloosa, AL; Athens, GA; & Columbus. Jacksonville & Carolina are kind of messes.
Carolina is not a mess, their owner is. Jacksonville was a mistake but it was to spite Baltimore and St. Louis. If Taglibue had known the NFL would be competing with soccer globally by 2015, Jacksonville would have never gotten a team.No you couldn’t just put a team anywhere. There’s a reason why the NFL doesn’t have teams in Tuscaloosa, AL; Athens, GA; & Columbus. Jacksonville & Carolina are kind of messes.
Carolina is not a mess, their owner is. Jacksonville was a mistake but it was to spite Baltimore and St. Louis. If Taglibue had known the NFL would be competing with soccer globally by 2015, Jacksonville would have never gotten a team.
I agree with this, but Jacksonville belongs with Dayton Ohio and Louisville Kentucky.All things equal, and I know this is a hockey website, Jacksonville was the better than the only other alternative at the time: Memphis. Jacksonville isn't terrible but there are a lot of candidates that would be better. The problem is that those same candidates weren't around in '94, besides St. Louis. In an alternate universe the Oilers or Falcons are in Jacksonville and Houston and Atlanta are the expansions that followed, and we're in the same boat.
Ownership mess brings instability. That’s my point. My other more salient point is that you can’t just drop an NFL team anywhere & it’s guaranteed success (henceforth, the reference to Tuscaloosa & Athens). But delusional fans & media in Canada think an NHL team anywhere there would work fine. QC won’t work & neither will Halifax, Saskatoon or any other small market. The business model changed a long time ago.Carolina is not a mess, their owner is. Jacksonville was a mistake but it was to spite Baltimore and St. Louis. If Taglibue had known the NFL would be competing with soccer globally by 2015, Jacksonville would have never gotten a team.
There are 1.1 million people in the Quebec-Levis area. It could work, they just have no one with money. They should have just bid on the Vegas-Seattle expansion. It is what it is.Ownership mess brings instability. That’s my point. My other more salient point is that you can’t just drop an NFL team anywhere & it’s guaranteed success (henceforth, the reference to Tuscaloosa & Athens). But delusional fans & media in Canada think an NHL team anywhere there would work fine. QC won’t work & neither will Halifax, Saskatoon or any other small market. The business model changed a long time ago.
They did, remember. Quebecor didn’t cough up the money. Let’s face facts, I’m pretty sure the NHL didn’t really want any of those teams in the ‘79 merger. But they didn’t want a continued war with the WHA either. In a normal expansion cycle, none of those teams would’ve gotten a look. And yes, that includes Edmonton.There are 1.1 million people in the Quebec-Levis area. It could work, they just have no one with money. They should have just bid on the Vegas-Seattle expansion. It is what it is.
This I agree with. I think Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg will be gone when their next arena deals are up in the 2040's. Too many guys have these teams on small NTC's for them to win anything.They did, remember. Quebecor didn’t cough up the money. Let’s face facts, I’m pretty sure the NHL didn’t really want any of those teams in the ‘79 merger. But they didn’t want a continued war with the WHA either. In a normal expansion cycle, none of those teams would’ve gotten a look. And yes, that includes Edmonton.
That's only 100k less than the metro SLC area, and they are not only on the verge of a team but having 2 of the big 4 AND an MLS team!There are 1.1 million people in the Quebec-Levis area. It could work, they just have no one with money. They should have just bid on the Vegas-Seattle expansion. It is what it is.
That's only 100k less than the metro SLC area, and they are not only on the verge of a team but having 2 of the big 4 AND an MLS team!
Your crazy.This I agree with. I think Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg will be gone when their next arena deals are up in the 2040's. Too many guys have these teams on small NTC's for them to win anything.
Good to know that a top NHL team is beating out the worst team in the league and a team playing in a college facility. Way to set the bar Winnipeg.FWIW of the 53 least-attended NHL regular season games so far this season (the only 53 games sub-11k) the Jets were the home team in none of them.
40 for Arizona.
13 for San Jose.
Really? Googled it and it said 1.2 mil.SLC market has 2.7 million
That's not the reason why they left.BTW Winnipeg's attendance the last 3 seasons is worse than the last 3 in Atlanta.
Good to know that a top NHL team is beating out the worst team in the league and a team playing in a college facility. Way to set the bar Winnipeg.
BTW Winnipeg's attendance the last 3 seasons is worse than the last 3 in Atlanta.
Way too many guys avoid playing there. That's what I feel, not what I want to happen.Your crazy.
That’s 20 years from now. Oilers just built a new arena, Calgary is about to start building theirs. MTS Centre will be old though. That one will be interesting but I dont see the Jets going anywhere either. Consider the fact that TNSE will basically own the entire downtown.A lot can happen from till then and tue economics of the league may look entirely different.
I get the overarching point you're making but this is somewhat disingenuous without considering average ticket price + TV ratings.BTW Winnipeg's attendance the last 3 seasons is worse than the last 3 in Atlanta.
I get the overarching point you're making but this is somewhat disingenuous without considering average ticket price + TV ratings.
Atlanta will be back and their franchise value will be higher day 1 than Winnipeg will ever be. Putting a team in Winnipeg was a mistake both times.I get the overarching point you're making but this is somewhat disingenuous without considering average ticket price + TV ratings.
Really? Googled it and it said 1.2 mil.
That's not the reason why they left.
Winnipeg will be gone in a decade. When the average NHL franchise is worth upwards of 2 billion and the Jets are the bottom of the list of franchise values, there's not gonna be any justification in keeping a team in that market.Well they shouldn't be in the college facility. The actual challenge in Winnipeg against the corporate sector in the next five years.
Going to bookmark this post.Winnipeg will be gone in a decade. When the average NHL franchise is worth upwards of 2 billion and the Jets are the bottom of the list of franchise values, there's not gonna be any justification in keeping a team in that market.