Better hockey player - Peak Crosby or Peak McDavid

[nowhereman]

Mcdavid is a tier above Crosby

Crobsy is the 6th to 10th on all time rankings with most people probably having him 6th or 7th

Mcdavid will be 1st to 5th with the most likely outcome being 3rd

The guy has a LONG way to go before you can proclaim that he's better than Lemieux and Howe. He has a far better chance to solidify himself as the go-to #5, over Crosby, Beliveau and Hasek, than he does at breaking into the big 4. And even that will take some doing.

 

[Video Nasty]

McDavid.

Forget the raw totals, league scoring levels, and flawed adjusted stats. Crosby was never routinely top 2 in both raw points and PPG for 7 consecutive years like McDavid.

McDavid is less than 20 games away from wrapping up a second scoring race victory by 25%, something Crosby didn’t do once. Competition is deeper and the superstars have been playing most of the schedule during McDavid’s string of Art Rosses, so there’s no propped up margin of victory like Crosby had in 2013-2014; 4 of the next 5 top PPG players missed 22-45 games of the schedule.

We don’t have to play pretend when it comes to McDavid. That alone is more interesting than the what if crap.

 

[BraveCanadian]

McDavid pretty clearly after this past couple years.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

McDavid is understated... probably because Crosby was just sooo hyped up

 

[The Nuge]

Mcdavid is a tier above Crosby

Crobsy is the 6th to 10th on all time rankings with most people probably having him 6th or 7th

Mcdavid will be 1st to 5th with the most likely outcome being 3rd

Spot on. This year will be McDavid’s 5th Art Ross. Crosby has 2. McDavid’s lost to Kucherov and Draisaitl. Crosby lost to guys like Malkin and the Sedins, but he’s also lost to Jamie Benn and a 37 year old MSL. They’re just not on the same level

 

[authentic]

Spot on. This year will be McDavid’s 5th Art Ross. Crosby has 2. McDavid’s lost to Kucherov and Draisaitl. Crosby lost to guys like Malkin and the Sedins, but he’s also lost to Jamie Benn and a 37 year old MSL. They’re just not on the same level

Had 4 less points in 36 games compared to 48. Also would've likely beat Benn if not for the missed games but that was atleast close.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

McDavid gets the nod since he stayed healthy and did it over multiple seasons. Crosby at his best was at a similar level though.

If the question was who would you draft at 18 years old, I'd take Crosby. I think his game would translate well across any era since he was elite in a grinding tight checking game and in open ice. Today's wide open game is tailor made for McDavid.

 

[bobbyking]

McDavid not close at all... Crosby is the biggest what if of all time(injuries obviously)McDavid gets credit for actually doing it

 

[Three On Zero]

Comes down to the kind of player you want, Crosby’s ability to help shut it down gets the nod from me. McDavid if you want pure offensive ability

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

There's no stat for this



When the bright lights are on, give me the guy who has gotten it done.

 

[bobbyking]

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Spot on. This year will be McDavid’s 5th Art Ross. Crosby has 2. McDavid’s lost to Kucherov and Draisaitl. Crosby lost to guys like Malkin and the Sedins, but he’s also lost to Jamie Benn and a 37 year old MSL. They’re just not on the same level

you know nothing if you are mocking peak malkin

 

[snipes]

McDavid is better than Crosby has ever been

 

[EverTheCynic]

Spot on. This year will be McDavid’s 5th Art Ross. Crosby has 2. McDavid’s lost to Kucherov and Draisaitl. Crosby lost to guys like Malkin and the Sedins, but he’s also lost to Jamie Benn and a 37 year old MSL. They’re just not on the same level

At their absolute best, Crosby is a vastly superior player.

McDavid is flashier. He's faster. And he's better in open ice. But McDavid is a straight up floater in a lot of other areas. Extremely weak.

Crosby is probably the best grinder in the history of hockey. Nobody outside of maybe Jagr could control the puck down low like him. There is zero weaknesses to his game. And Crosby is pretty darn good at the stuff McDavid excels at, while having none of his weaknesses.

It is clearly and obviously Crosby

 

[Video Nasty]

Funny how in real time, Crosby fans would point to how he’s the best no matter what.

Once the dust settled and he barely picked up hardware post 2012-2013, now his supporters point to Ovechkin and Malkin as an excuse.

Crosby lost scoring races at age 27 and 28, directly after winning a healthy “dominant” Art Ross, to the likes of Benn, Tavares, and no disrespect to Kane because he morphed into a far greater player than those two.

It’s kind of the point when some are like “it was only a few points”, “he played a few less games”, “he blah blah blah”.

Those players had no business hanging with Crosby even then.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

There's no stat for this



When the bright lights are on, give me the guy who has gotten it done.

Agreed. That's why my choice is Travis Moen.

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Agreed. That's why my choice is Travis Moen.

The gap between Moen and great players like Crosby and McDavid is far too big for him to be in the conversation.

 

[Turin]

It's hard to say.

2011 Crosby was really really good. He would have scored over 60 goals. Who knows if he played in this era with a great powerplay? But we never saw a full season of that. So even though Crosby is my favourite player I'll say McDavid's offensive peak is higher here.

 

[Frank Drebin]

These polls will be seen as more and more foolish as time goes on, as will the cup and gold medal arguments.

No one does, or should hold Ryan Getzlaf above Joe Thornton, even though the former is the one with a cup. Same argument applies to sid and mcdavid at this point in their respective careers.

 

[GoBuds14]

Mcdavid is a tier above Crosby

Crobsy is the 6th to 10th on all time rankings with most people probably having him 6th or 7th

Mcdavid will be 1st to 5th with the most likely outcome being 3rd

Don’t totally disagree, I assume the top 2 is Gretzky and Lemieux? Only reason I ask, almost every guy my parents age has Orr right there with Wayne and Mario. My dad always said Orr was the best hockey player he’d ever watched. I do think McDavid has a chance to crack the top 5 I totally agree. Really hope he keeps this level up for another half decade at least, and adds a cup

 

[The Nuge]

Had 4 less points in 36 games compared to 48. Also would've likely beat Benn if not for the missed games but that was atleast close.

He was in his prime, played 77 games, and lost to Benn. He was on pace for less than 90 points at age 27. If he was remotely on McDavid’s level that wouldn’t have happened.

you know nothing if you are mocking peak malkin

Where the heck did I mock Malkin? Malkin and the twins were legit superstars who earned their trophies. There’s nothing wrong with a guy who’s a step down from the Gretzky/Lemieux/McDavid tier losing to them. Losing to Benn, while barely putting up a PPG, is where the criticism comes in of Crosby’s validity in the discussion of him relative to the big 4.

At their absolute best, Crosby is a vastly superior player.

McDavid is flashier. He's faster. And he's better in open ice. But McDavid is a straight up floater in a lot of other areas. Extremely weak.

Crosby is probably the best grinder in the history of hockey. Nobody outside of maybe Jagr could control the puck down low like him. There is zero weaknesses to his game. And Crosby is pretty darn good at the stuff McDavid excels at, while having none of his weaknesses.

It is clearly and obviously Crosby

He just isn’t. Crosby has never come close to the level McDavid has been at over the last 3 years. Even if you cherry pick his unsustainable 22 game season he wasn’t scoring like this. He’s probably the best grinder in NHL history. Yes. But being a grinder doesn’t somehow make him McDavid’s equal.

 

[GOilers88]

Would McDavid have won the cups if he was with Pittsburgh, and would Crosby still be cupless in Edmonton?

That's really what it comes down to.

 

[wasunder]

Crosby hasn’t peaked yet

 

[deca guard]

love sid but mcdavids the greatest hockey player ever to be on earth . there is NOBODY EVER that can constantly constantly score all on his own with no help from teammates like mcd because hes the greatest skater ever with elite iq,hands,shot

 

[ricky0034]

McDavid actually does in reality what Crosby needs pace and make believe to achieve

 

[Zubrus Coffee Maker]

With the way McDavid took over last playoff I have no hesitation in saying that if he were in Crosby’s place in Pittsburgh he would have won as many, if not more cups. Not to take anything away from Sid, but Connor McDavid is just that good. Sid was the man during his prime though, and his leadership also factors into his success but I take McD