alexgreeen
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Congrats, you just contradicted your whole statement in a couple words.I find Marner rather overrated around these parts, he’s really just a guy who’s stats were inflated by a hot run on the PP. Gourde was a legitimately elite 5v5 scorer this season though he did shoot super high percentage, but even when his percentages regress he’s a well above average 5v5 scorer who is also a play driver and defensive difference maker.
You are on a roll today man. Leafs centers > Tampa's quite easily. Marner has better numbers then Kuch had a few years older.
Miller>>Marleau - Stamkos<Matthews - Kucherov >>>>>Nylander (no hate on Willy tho, Kuch is just a superstar)
Palat>>>>>Hyman - Point<Tavares - Marner=Gourde (hot take)
Killorn>>>Johnsson - Cirelli<<<<<Kadri - Johnson>>Brown
Erne<<Leivo - Paquette>>X - Callahan<<<Kapanen
Prob tampa
Sad that it's this way and it won't be changing anytime soon.I mean the anti Leaf will say Tampa but 3 30 goal centers says it's Toronto
Matthews is not the second best defensive player in the NHL, lmao. he's a better player than Stamkos thoughMatthews > Stamkos easily. Matthews was 1st in Goals per game at even strength; 2nd in D/Game. Only Bergeron is a better defensive player in the entire NHL. Matthews is a future rocket richard and selke winnner. His defensive analytics is eye popping.
I can really give an answer; but I really want to say Toronto because there big 4. Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Nylander
Toronto had a better GA than Tampa last year.I'd probably take Toronto
Tampa wins hands-down on defence though
Moving forward I agreeGourde is not better than Marner, nor will he be going forward. Barring some career-altering injury, I will bet you any amount that Marner will be the superior player.
Andersen is > VasilevskiyToronto had a better GA than Tampa last year.
Does that mean you think Andersen > Vasilevskiy?
Idk, Gourde had a significantly higher Es scoring rate and was much less sheltered (identical QoC but Gourde had much higher d zone start percentage and much lower QoT). Most of their underlying numbers were pretty similar despite the major difference in deployment.Congrats, you just contradicted your whole statement in a couple words.
Gourde = Marner isn't a hot take, its a dumb one.
ThisMatthews is not the second best defensive player in the NHL, lmao. he's a better player than Stamkos though
Jesus almost 0.5 goals per game at even strengh alone is ridiculous. If he scores some on the pp rocket is well within reach (still is even without lol)
Matthews is not better than stamkos.Miller>>Marleau - Stamkos<Matthews - Kucherov >>>>>Nylander (no hate on Willy tho, Kuch is just a superstar)
Palat>>>>>Hyman - Point<Tavares - Marner=Gourde (hot take)
Killorn>>>Johnsson - Cirelli<<<<<Kadri - Johnson>>Brown
Erne<<Leivo - Paquette>>X - Callahan<<<Kapanen
Prob tampa
But Tavares is.Matthews is not better than stamkos.
In my opinion he is. Tavares and Stamkos are about even, edge to JT.Matthews is not better than stamkos.
Toronto had a better GA than Tampa last year.
Does that mean you think Andersen > Vasilevskiy?