Of course. Lafreniere or Slafkovsky could regress. But without concrete signs of regression, you may as well say the equally vague "Anything can happen".Development is not linear though. If it were Nail Yakupov would be a star.
Of course. Lafreniere or Slafkovsky could regress. But without concrete signs of regression, you may as well say the equally vague "Anything can happen".Development is not linear though. If it were Nail Yakupov would be a star.
Of course. Lafreniere or Slafkovsky could regress. But without concrete signs of regression, you may as well say the equally vague "Anything can happen".
Perfectly natural to imagine your team's player progressing better than a rival's player.Eh, not really. You're making it out to be like some lottery ticket. Neither will have to regress, they're both probably going to progress. However, it's perfectly plausible without saying "anything can happen" that Lafreniere will progress more. I've said this a number of times he has a very valid claim to be the second best forward on a cup contender. And I know they're both a few years in, but would it require that much imagination for the guy that was the much better prospect at the time of the draft to end up better?
Eh, not really. You're making it out to be like some lottery ticket. Neither will have to regress, they're both probably going to progress. However, it's perfectly plausible without saying "anything can happen" that Lafreniere will progress more. I've said this a number of times he has a very valid claim to be the second best forward on a cup contender. And I know they're both a few years in, but would it require that much imagination for the guy that was the much better prospect at the time of the draft to end up better?
Perfectly natural to imagine your team's player progressing better than a rival's player.
I'll take my team's player. He's only 20, already advanced further and faster than Lafreniere did at the same age, and he appears to still be on an upward trajectory.
I guess we'll see...
It also possible than Slaf Will be twice the player that Laf will ever be
Chadkovsky is PPG right now, while also being more physical than Lafrenière will ever be, and is also younger. And he's not playing with Panarin, btw. Suzuki is great, but not "Panarin" great
You can't call the bias of other when you are yourself super biased
Especially when Laff didn't get pp1 time. Slaf worked for his spot but at the same time he only had greats like Armia Newhook Dach Gallagher Anderson to surpass to get that. Not really the same internal competition.I'm not saying it's going to happen. Just that "random year my player was better than another player" doesn't necessarily mean he'll end up better.
Euh, no?
How's that PP time working out for Chad? Kinda easy to put up points when your team is so shitty you're gifted top line minutes and plenty of power play time off the bat. You think Chad gets those same minutes and opportunities if drafted by New York?It also possible than Slaf Will be twice the player that Laf will ever be
Chadkovsky is PPG right now, while also being more physical than Lafrenière will ever be, and is also younger. And he's not playing with Panarin, btw. Suzuki is great, but not "Panarin" great
You can't call the bias of other when you are yourself super biased
Laf was a beast in the playoffs and we will see him again this season.Laf is very clearly better and he's on the better contract... Only way you're taking Slaf in this poll is if you expect him to end up the better player, which is reasonable given how much better Slaf is at 20 than Laf was. For a team like the Rangers i'm taking Laf, more of a sure thing, better player right now while contending. For a team with the Habs, Slafkovsky, higher ceiling, younger and nothing but time to build/develop.
If you think Slafkovsky is already as good as Lafreniere is already, right now, i don't know what to tell you.
How's that PP time working out for Chad? Kinda easy to put up points when your team is so shitty you're gifted top line minutes and plenty of power play time off the bat. You think Chad gets those same minutes and opportunities if drafted by New York?
That said, I'm a big fan of both these guys.
Maybe? The Chadkovsky didn't sucked for years like Laffy at the beginning, so, why not?
Funny thing is that if you go back 12-18 months in HFBoards archives, you’d be led to believe that these two players in this poll were the absolute biggest busts this side of Nail Yakupov.
'Random year' has nothing to do with Slafkovsky. It took him about 65 games to develop into a solid top-6 forward, at 19 years old. He's only 20 and continues to make steady progress. He's had no random years.I'm not saying it's going to happen. Just that "random year my player was better than another player" doesn't necessarily mean he'll end up better.
'Random year' has nothing to do with Slafkovsky. It took him about 65 games to develop into a solid top-6 forward, at 19 years old. He's only 20 and continues to make steady progress. He's had no random years.
Unless I'm misunderstanding you, it sounds like you're trying to throw caveats like "Random year" and "Development isn't linear" at Slafkovsky, while ignoring that they apply more to Lafreniere. As you know, Laf's career arc has been more erratic, with three underwhelming seasons before his first good season last year. That's not a criticism. I'm happy to believe he turned the corner in his fourth season and that he'll continue upwards from here. But if you believe Lafreniere found his game at 22, there's no credible basis to question Slafkovsky arriving at that point at 19.