Better contract: Laf or Slaf?

Which contract is the better value?


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SnowblindNYR

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Of course. Lafreniere or Slafkovsky could regress. But without concrete signs of regression, you may as well say the equally vague "Anything can happen".

Eh, not really. You're making it out to be like some lottery ticket. Neither will have to regress, they're both probably going to progress. However, it's perfectly plausible without saying "anything can happen" that Lafreniere will progress more. I've said this a number of times he has a very valid claim to be the second best forward on a cup contender. And I know they're both a few years in, but would it require that much imagination for the guy that was the much better prospect at the time of the draft to end up better?
 

Lshap

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Eh, not really. You're making it out to be like some lottery ticket. Neither will have to regress, they're both probably going to progress. However, it's perfectly plausible without saying "anything can happen" that Lafreniere will progress more. I've said this a number of times he has a very valid claim to be the second best forward on a cup contender. And I know they're both a few years in, but would it require that much imagination for the guy that was the much better prospect at the time of the draft to end up better?
Perfectly natural to imagine your team's player progressing better than a rival's player.

I'll take my team's player. He's only 20, already advanced further and faster than Lafreniere did at the same age, and he appears to still be on an upward trajectory.

I guess we'll see...
 

Bouboumaster

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Eh, not really. You're making it out to be like some lottery ticket. Neither will have to regress, they're both probably going to progress. However, it's perfectly plausible without saying "anything can happen" that Lafreniere will progress more. I've said this a number of times he has a very valid claim to be the second best forward on a cup contender. And I know they're both a few years in, but would it require that much imagination for the guy that was the much better prospect at the time of the draft to end up better?

It also possible than Slaf Will be twice the player that Laf will ever be

Chadkovsky is PPG right now, while also being more physical than Lafrenière will ever be, and is also younger. And he's not playing with Panarin, btw. Suzuki is great, but not "Panarin" great

You can't call the bias of other when you are yourself super biased
 

SnowblindNYR

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Perfectly natural to imagine your team's player progressing better than a rival's player.

I'll take my team's player. He's only 20, already advanced further and faster than Lafreniere did at the same age, and he appears to still be on an upward trajectory.

I guess we'll see...

I'm not saying it's going to happen. Just that "random year my player was better than another player" doesn't necessarily mean he'll end up better.
 

SnowblindNYR

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It also possible than Slaf Will be twice the player that Laf will ever be

Chadkovsky is PPG right now, while also being more physical than Lafrenière will ever be, and is also younger. And he's not playing with Panarin, btw. Suzuki is great, but not "Panarin" great

You can't call the bias of other when you are yourself super biased

And Slaf gets PP1 time, does he not? That has a bigger impact that Panarin. And he's almost as instrumental to that line as Panarin. Look at their even strength production last year, Laf had like 15 more even strength points than Slaf. Slaf can end up better, I never said he can't. All I'm saying is "random year my prospect was better" is not an argument at this point.
 

The Gr8 Dane

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I'm not saying it's going to happen. Just that "random year my player was better than another player" doesn't necessarily mean he'll end up better.
Especially when Laff didn't get pp1 time. Slaf worked for his spot but at the same time he only had greats like Armia Newhook Dach Gallagher Anderson to surpass to get that. Not really the same internal competition.
 
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SnowblindNYR

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Uhhh, yeah? Laf would have had most likely at least 20 extra points on the PP last year. Trocheck had the fewest points on the PP last year for the Rangers with 24. The Rangers top line this year in terms of xGF doesn't have one superstar on it. You don't need Panarin on your line to score a lot at even strength. And it's not like Slaf is playing with scrubs.
 

Grifter3511

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It also possible than Slaf Will be twice the player that Laf will ever be

Chadkovsky is PPG right now, while also being more physical than Lafrenière will ever be, and is also younger. And he's not playing with Panarin, btw. Suzuki is great, but not "Panarin" great

You can't call the bias of other when you are yourself super biased
How's that PP time working out for Chad? Kinda easy to put up points when your team is so shitty you're gifted top line minutes and plenty of power play time off the bat. You think Chad gets those same minutes and opportunities if drafted by New York?

That said, I'm a big fan of both these guys.
 

elmaco

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Laf is very clearly better and he's on the better contract... Only way you're taking Slaf in this poll is if you expect him to end up the better player, which is reasonable given how much better Slaf is at 20 than Laf was. For a team like the Rangers i'm taking Laf, more of a sure thing, better player right now while contending. For a team with the Habs, Slafkovsky, higher ceiling, younger and nothing but time to build/develop.


If you think Slafkovsky is already as good as Lafreniere is already, right now, i don't know what to tell you.
Laf was a beast in the playoffs and we will see him again this season.
 

MoneyManny

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Both contracts look good. Slaf has a larger share of it being paid for his potential right now, but i voted for him because i'm a Homer of course.
 

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