Best top 6: Panthers vs Canucks edition

[TheHelmet]

Barkov has finished top 5 in voting for the selke three of the past four years.
Finished top 5 in the hart voting recently

why is it that people keep trying to push that Barkov is underrated?

I don't get it. People know he is good.

 

[Bertuzzipunch]

Barkov has finished top 5 in voting for the selke three of the past four years.
Finished top 5 in the hart voting recently

why is it that people keep trying to push that Barkov is underrated?

I don't get it. People know he is good.

This thread isnt about barkov at all jfc u ppl. Its about tge entire group and i havent seen anyone say hes underrated man wth

 

[Connor McConnor]

Maybe because toronto and edmontons top 6 cant do anything in the playoffs besides having the best couple players in the world and crappy wingers unlike vancouver

The Canucks have one of the worst records in the NHL over the past 5 years lol. How about you try and make the playoffs first. And please don't bring up that flukey COVID run where Marky stood on his head and you guys were outshot 40-10 in every series.

 

[Bertuzzipunch]

The Canucks have one of the worst records in the NHL over the past 5 years lol. How about you try and make the playoffs first. And please don't bring up that flukey COVID run where Marky stood on his head and you guys were outshot 40-10 in every series.

You guys cant even win a playoff game lmao look at your history the last 5 years. Nobodys impressed believe me

 

[pb1300]

Lmao thats funny, better depth hahaha

It’s because they do have better depth than the Canucks. Don’t know what’s so funny about that “bud.”

 

[apollo18]

poll seems extremely lop sided seems like its more of a bias thing rather then truth



Verhaege - Barkov - Reinhart
Huberdeau - Bennett - Tippett

vs

Miller - Pettersson - Boeser
Hoglander - Horvat - Garland


Verhaege = Hoglander
Barkov > Petey
Boeser = Reinhart
Huberdeau > Miller
Horvat > Bennett
Garland > Tippett

the best players poll is probably something around this: as long as everyone is heathly
Barkov
Hubey
Petey
Miller
Horvat
Reinhart
Boeser
Garland
Verhaege/Hog
Tippet


Seems like canucks have the better depth but FLA has higher top end
lets be real tho Verhaege was basically waiver wire before this and Tippet is still a rookie and has shown less then Hoglander

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

poll seems extremely lop sided seems like its more of a bias thing rather then truth



Verhaege - Barkov - Reinhart
Huberdeau - Bennett - Tippett

vs

Miller - Pettersson - Boeser
Hoglander - Horvat - Garland


Verhaege = Hoglander
Barkov > Petey
Boeser = Reinhart
Huberdeau > Miller
Horvat > Bennett
Garland > Tippett

the best players poll is probably something around this: as long as everyone is heathly
Barkov
Hubey
Petey
Miller
Horvat
Reinhart
Boeser
Garland
Verhaege/Hog
Tippet


Seems like canucks have the better depth but FLA has higher top end
lets be real tho Verhaege was basically waiver wire before this and Tippet is still a rookie and has shown less then Hoglander

I think Florida has more guys who have to prove it wasn't a 1 season thing, such as Verhaege proving he can produce like that again or Bennett proving his hot streak wasn't just that. If they can play at around or similar to last season, I think Florida's depth is as good as Vancouver's on top of having the better top end guys.

 

[Bertuzzipunch]

It’s because they do have better depth than the Canucks. Don’t know what’s so funny about that “bud.”

Cause its not true. How about that?

 

[pb1300]

Cause its not true. How about that?

Yeah, I would see what you’d have to say for that, but I see your post count. Not worth it.

 

[Bertuzzipunch]

Yeah, I would see what you’d have to say for that, but I see your post count. Not worth it.

Oh ya u really got me there lmao

 

[John Johnson]

Canucks top 6 isn’t better than Toronto or Edmonton but delusional Canuck fans think it’s the best in the league lmao.

Star talent matters you can’t just compare the positions 1:1 and tally them up.

Nobody said that these were the 2 best top 6s in the league? Stop crying because your team isn't mentioned in every damn thread that exists. Or did you just want to come into this thread because you want to shit on the Canucks because that would be very Oiler fan of you. Rent free.

 

[Beezeral]

Yeah, I would see what you’d have to say for that, but I see your post count. Not worth it.

You won’t get a coherent argument from him.

 

[Bertuzzipunch]

You won’t get a coherent argument from him.

Owned you too many times lmao

 

[Connor McConnor]

[MOD]

I’ll try and stay on topic - Florida’s top 6 is much better than the Canucks simply because of star power. The Canucks don’t have a single top 20 player in that top 6 and you could argue they don’t have a top 30 player. EP is a guy who I have regularly said on these forums I believe has superstar ability but he just simply hasn’t done it yet. If we want to talk about potential sure, he’s got top 10 player in the league potential but so what? How about he does more than put up points in bunches on the power play or just looking for a one timer?

I thought Garland was a very nice addition to the roster but can we stop acting like he’s some sort of elite top 6 winger? The kid is a good up and coming player who got a ton of ice time on a horrible team and was a bright spot..

 

[rotiman187]

Will be fun re visiting this thread at the end of the season m

 

[BWJM]

The Canucks have one of the worst records in the NHL over the past 5 years lol. How about you try and make the playoffs first. And please don't bring up that flukey COVID run where Marky stood on his head and you guys were outshot 40-10 in every series.

Okay we get it.. your an Oiler fan... but don't go bashing the Canucks for not making the playoffs when your teams playoff track record of recent is just as bad.

Not to mention you have McDavid. McChokers.

 

[John Johnson]

Did you write this before I even responded? I’m confused lol because I tried to be reasonable and yet you seem to still be crying? Do you not want to discuss the actual hockey analysis part because you know it’s wrong?

Oh yeah, way to throw crying back at me. A very original comeback that you did not just take from me 2 posts ago. Like I care about your biased Oiler hockey "analysis" for the Canucks team that you hate. This conversation didn't start because I wanted to debate you on the poll topic, it started because you were bitching about Canucks fans being the absolute bane of your existence for some reason. Not to mention, you keep deflecting my posts by acting like "wtf lol Im so confused ur so dumb XD", you aren't sly or slick bro.

 

[BB88]

This should be very easy Panthers.

They have 2 90+ point superstars(reigning Selke winner) and just great all around talent

 

[sparxx87]

Owned you too many times lmao

That’s certainly an opinion

 

[Beezeral]

That’s certainly an opinion

He’s yet to own anyone.

 

[Plural]

So, we all agree that in the most important F position, 1#C the Panthers are better. Barkov > Pettersson.

They also have another star caliber forward who can carry a line. Huby is probably at least as good as Pettersson, even if he plays less important position.

What really separates this for me, is Barkov being a workhorse. If push comes to shove, he can be effective on both ends of the ice for 25 minutes. That's something that doesn't show up on the score sheet as much. But Barkov can be, if needed, to be trusted for a lot of TOI. It's not ideal to play him as much, but he really can do it all. Shutdown oppoñents top line, score, make plays, run PP and PK. It's not like he's full blown offensive tool that's feeded easy minutes.

 

[Pip]

Looks like Florida have the best two players to me and any advantage from Horvat > Bennett doesn't outweigh that.

this is where I see it as well

 

[Beezeral]

When Sam Reinhart is your 3rd or 4th best forward (depending on if Verhaeghe can repeat last season's success), you have an excellent top 6. Once that the Canucks don't match up with.

 

[JohnLennon]

Verhaege << Miller
Barkov > Pettersson
Reinhart < Boeser
Huberdeau >> Hoglander
Bennett < Horvat
Tippett < Garland

I'll give the edge to the Canucks but it could easily be Florida depending on the performances of Bennett and Tippett.

This is exactly how I see it as well, interesting to see the results ended up being much more lopsided. I totally understand though, because Barkov and Huberdeau alone are better than anything than Canucks have. I just think Boeser, Horvat and Garland being better than Reinhart, Bennett and Tippett lean it the other way for me.

 

[nowhereman]

The Canucks have one of the worst records in the NHL over the past 5 years lol. How about you try and make the playoffs first. And please don't bring up that flukey COVID run where Marky stood on his head and you guys were outshot 40-10 in every series.

Where the hell is this bravado coming from? The Oilers have only made the playoffs one more time than the Canucks in the last 6 years and they were embarrassinly swept, with McDavid coming up short, yet again, when it matters most. Mind you it might have actually been a bit more embarrassing to lose to a Chicago team who didn't even deserve to be anywhere near the playoffs, lmao.

Either way, glass houses, man.