BigBadBruins7708
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2011 canucks ANIEC
because they had inflated stats beating up on a dogs**t division?
2011 canucks ANIEC
2002-2003 Sens are a good candidate. Whoever won that ECF was winning the cup.
bigbadbruins7708 "yawn"because they had inflated stats beating up on a dogs**t division?
The 2011 Canucks we're 1st in GF and 1st in GA. 1st in PP% and 1st in PK%. Three HHOFs plus a Selke winning 2nd line centre who could score 30 goals all in their primes.
They were screwed by the league and the referees.
And that record was with Lemieux missing 24 games for cancer treatment (meaning beforehand he was likely impaired with symptoms that triggered the diagnosis and afterwards affected by his chemo). Still he put together the most ridiculous regular season performance the league has ever seen.From what I've heard the 1993 Penguins team was supposed to be even better than the '91 and '92 teams that won the b2b cups. They had significantly better records than each of the previous cup winning seasons (won the only President's trophy in team history) and reportedly much better rosters.
That was way before my time though
Most of the mid-80's Flyers teams were excellent and yet couldn't close the deal. Maybe the '93 Leafs?
Thank you for the insight. I've heard ranting and raving from older friends and family members who were around back then and it sounds like everyone was utterly shocked that they didn't 3-peat that year.So the 91 and 92 teams were great offensively but poor defensively. The 93 team was great at both. A big part of it was the 92 near deadline trade of Recchi, Benning, and a 1st for Tocchet, Kjell Samuelsson, Wregget, and a 3rd. Also was Paul Coffey being sent to LA to play with Gretzky.
Adding defenceman Kjell Samuelsson and backup goalie Ken Wregget helped solidify the defence. Recchi was great but he was a defensive liability when he was young compared to Tocchet. Samuelsson replaced Paul Coffey in the lineup essentially and while he wasn't the offensive player Coffey was, he certainly didn't allow as many goals on the ice.
So yes, the 93 Penguins were a great team at both ends of the ice unlike the 91 and 92 teams. It felt like a forgone conclusion they were winning the Cup in 93. Then they ran into a New York Islanders without Pierre Turgeon for most of the series. Everyone bet against the Islanders. You will hear more hate than love for Darius Kasparaitis around here I'm sure but in that rookie season he played like every rookie should: fearless and refusing to bow to legends. I loved that series.
But anyway, yes. The Penguins in 93 were better rounded than the 91 and 92 teams.
You're looking at the wrong year for the Canucks. 117 points and +772010 Capitals were better than either the 2009 Sharks or 2011 Canucks.
2009 Sharks - 117 Points +53 goal differential
2010 Capitals - 121 Points +85 goal differential
2011 Canucks - 111 Points +51 goal differential
Both Ovechkin and Backstrom were over 100 points, with Semin breaking 40 goals, and Mike Green over a point/game as a defenseman (and his Norris snubs paved the way for Karlsson's Norris wins later on). Seven different players with 20+ goals (and Green at 19goals).
The trades you referenced were in '92.So the 91 and 92 teams were great offensively but poor defensively. The 93 team was great at both. A big part of it was the 92 near deadline trade of Recchi, Benning, and a 1st for Tocchet, Kjell Samuelsson, Wregget, and a 3rd. Also was Paul Coffey being sent to LA to play with Gretzky.
Adding defenceman Kjell Samuelsson and backup goalie Ken Wregget helped solidify the defence. Recchi was great but he was a defensive liability when he was young compared to Tocchet. Samuelsson replaced Paul Coffey in the lineup essentially and while he wasn't the offensive player Coffey was, he certainly didn't allow as many goals on the ice.
So yes, the 93 Penguins were a great team at both ends of the ice unlike the 91 and 92 teams. It felt like a forgone conclusion they were winning the Cup in 93. Then they ran into a New York Islanders without Pierre Turgeon for most of the series. Everyone bet against the Islanders. You will hear more hate than love for Darius Kasparaitis around here I'm sure but in that rookie season he played like every rookie should: fearless and refusing to bow to legends. I loved that series.
But anyway, yes. The Penguins in 93 were better rounded than the 91 and 92 teams.
The 1993 Leafs would have gotten demolished by Montreal.
As a long time Rangers fan born and raised in Vancouver, the 2011 Canucks was a waaaaaayyyy better team than either of those Rangers teams outside of goaltending. Rangers offense was putrid and never Stanley Cup worthy, yet they almost pulled it off anyways.Either the 2014 or 2015 Rangers. Those teams were loaded, and Hank was playing out of his damn mind. Unfortunately, they ran into the inferno that was the LA Kings in '14, and just ran out of gas in the Final. The 2015 team should have beaten Tampa in the ECF, but crapped the bed in games 6 & 7. I'm convinced they would have beaten Chicago for the Cup that year had they advanced.
The 1993 Leafs would have gotten demolished by Montreal.
Some of those St Louis teams in that time were stacked too.Colorado and Detroit, the years when they bumped out each other.
Even if they beat Tampa they weren't beating Colorado.Judging by how Leafs fans talked about their loss to Tampa, gotta be the 2021-22 Maple Leafs.
The 2011 Canucks we're 1st in GF and 1st in GA. 1st in PP% and 1st in PK%. Three HHOFs plus a Selke winning 2nd line centre who could score 30 goals all in their primes.
They were screwed by the league and the referees.
A team people often overlook are the early 2000s Stars. They went to back to back finals and then in 99 and 2000 and then would run into the precap Avs or Wings every year and get murked by a team made up of 10 future Hall of Famers.
| LW | C | RW |
|---|---|---|
| Zetterberg | Datsyuk | Holmstrom |
| Shanahan | Lang | Williams |
| Samuelsson | Draper | Yzerman |
| Franzen | Cleary | Maltby |
| LD | RD |
|---|---|
| Lidstrom | Chelios |
| Schneider | Kronwall |
| Lilja | Lebda |
| G |
|---|
| Legace |
| Osgood |
I stand corrected. My homerism/nostalgia clouded my memories. Lundqvist did play out of his mind those years though, and dragged those teams to the ECF/Finals those years on his back. Same with the 2012 team, now that I think of it.As a long time Rangers fan born and raised in Vancouver, the 2011 Canucks was a waaaaaayyyy better team than either of those Rangers teams outside of goaltending. Rangers offense was putrid and never Stanley Cup worthy, yet they almost pulled it off anyways.
