Best sniper + playmaker combination in one player

[Legion34]

Draisaitl and it's not even close

I went through about 4 pages of no mention of Drai thinking I lost my mind before I saw the date

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Draisaitl and it's not even close

This is who I thought of. Not the best player, but potentially the most balanced.

 

[seafoam]

As much as it pains me to type his name, Nikita Kucherov.

 

[rockymtnoyster]

Ilya Kovalchuk.

Elite sniper but not a good playmaker,

 

[Barrie22]

WHY WE BUMPING TEN YEAR OLD THREADS



Wrong. Lemieux 1995-96

Technically yes and technically no, he was tied for the lead in assists.

 

[the]

Ilya Kovalchuk AINEC

 

[Al Lagoon]

I'd say Kaprizov. We all know he can snipe, but he's become an unreal playmaker, no-look seeing eye passes galore this season until he got hurt.

 

[kugelbahn]

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Snipers can/will do slappers, so Pasta, Malkin, Kuch, Drai are good examples of snipers who are also playmakers. Not Crosby or McDavid...

 

[onmygameboi]

Brodeur.

 

[Hippasus]

Ovechkin 09-10 + playoffs.

 

[Mogo]

Mario

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Kessel is up there. His issues are away from his playmaking and goal scoring.

100% came to mind

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Gretzky obviously

 

[freakydallas13]

How is Giroux in this discussion? He has 0 30 goals seasons.

Anyway, my choices here are Malkin (average of 38 goals and 62 assists), Crosby (average of 40 goals and 74 assists), Seguin (average of 36 goals and 40 assists in a season not including his rookie season), Kessel (average of 36 goals and 39 assists not including his first 2 seasons) or Ovechkin (average of 51 goals and 46 assists) purely looking at stats. When watching them play, I'd go with Malkin.

I was about to respond to this post saying Giroux has two 30 goals seasons, but then I realized this post is from 2015 and both those 30 goal seasons happened after that

 

[benfranklin]

MacKinnon or Rantanen.

 

[kerrabria]

100% came to mind

Not surprised the original Kessel comment was from 2015.
Leafs fans comically overrated Kessel's sniping abilities, and it was exposed when he got to the Pens. Dude's stick was so short and flexed that he couldn't even take one timers or backhands. It was purely snap shots, and even then, Kessel's snapper couldn't hold a candle to current Pastrnak or MacKinnon.

 

[Connor McConnor]

Drai AINEC atm. Funny how he is often compared to Malkin in many ways and Geno was the obvious favourite for this in 2015 (edit: i took this as current my bad)

MacKinnon or Rantanen.

The guy on pace for 30 goals isn’t a sniper

 

[benfranklin]

Drai AINEC atm. Funny how he is often compared to Malkin in many ways and Geno was the obvious favourite for this in 2015


The guy on pace for 30 goals isn’t a sniper

Its definitely very close and Id call a lot of players "Snipers" ahead of Draisaitl today and thats not an insult to him at all. Very of his goals, I would call "snipes".

This was a thread back in McDavid's 50+ goal season where he still wasnt considered a "sniper". Snipers are the guys dropping clappers top cheese bar down. Wristers/snappers going glove hand because they can. Bar down or bust.

A sniper is not quantity of goals, but quality.

 

[Connor McConnor]

Its definitely very close and Id call a lot of players "Snipers" ahead of Draisaitl today and thats not an insult to him at all. Very of his goals, I would call "snipes".

This was a thread back in McDavid's 50+ goal season where he still wasnt considered a "sniper". Snipers are the guys dropping clappers top cheese bar down. Wristers/snappers going glove hand because they can. Bar down or bust.

A sniper is not quantity of goals, but quality.

Drai is the best combination of both we have seen since Malkin

 

[Duke74]

Drai is the best combination of both we have seen since Malkin

The posting history of the quoted poster shows a very distinctive trend of downplaying Draisaitl.

 

[Stealth JD]

Came here to say Dr. Drai

 

[tarheelhockey]

We should have more 10-year thread bumps. Makes for interesting perspective.

 

[Pierre Larouche]

As much as it pains me to type his name, Nikita Kucherov.

Kucherov.

 

[benfranklin]

The posting history of the quoted poster shows a very distinctive trend of downplaying Draisaitl.

Im not downplaying him at all. Im pointing out that he isnt a "sniper". He is an A+ finisher, especially from his office with whoever feeding him in his wheelhouse.

Here is the 23-24 goals (couldnt find this season all in one video). Only 1-2 I would say is a "snipe" and one was a backhand lol.



Draisaitl I would say is the best backhand passer in the league and one of the top playmakers, top finishers, and top one timers. A sniper though, no.

Here is a video of snipes and I hope its clear that Draisitl is not that guy. Every guy here who plays hockey will agree with me.

 

[Duke74]

Im not downplaying him at all. Im pointing out that he isnt a "sniper". He is an A+ finisher, especially from his office with whoever feeding him in his wheelhouse.

Here is the 23-24 goals (couldnt find this season all in one video). Only 1-2 I would say is a "snipe" and one was a backhand lol.



Here is a video of snipers. Draisaitl I would say is the best backhand passer in the league and one of the top playmakers, top finishers, and top one timers. A sniper though, no.

Here is a video of snipes and I hope its clear that Draisitl is not that guy. Every guy here who plays hockey will agree with me.

Thanks for sharing those vids. I'll definitely take a look at my leisure. The Draisaitl video likely doesn't showcase his best attributes as the previous season was considered a "down year" for him with only 40 goals.

I guess it depends upon your interpretation of the word "sniper." I interpret the word more generally to mean a goal scorer rather than referring to a specific type of goal: snap shot, slap shot, or wrist shot. That being said, I do understand your meaning.