Best phantom offside call of all time?

[RattsSSV]

I love that McDavid just has no time for an apology.

Just awful officiating. Closing out the year strong, I guess.

 

[Steamwhistle]

Haha, at least we got this gif out of it

Love this kid's fire.

And thus, a meme was born.

Honestly, I'm just going to use this gif every time somebody posts something completely ludicrous and I don't want to waste time arguing with them

 

[dookers9]

If that happened and I were in your position I'd take the #1 overall pick and run. Obviously this wasn't the goal for your season but you're in position for it again anyway, why not try to take advantage?

Because I'm no longer so fleet of foot.

It's hilarious that the League has sought to apply an "Oilers rule" specifically for the draft, believing that management has tanked too many times beforehand.

There honestly was a recognition back in 2010 that given the lineup, they could "ride out" a couple years in the hopes of stocking up and doing as the Blackhawks had done. But the tank's long gone. There are exceptionally competitive people in Oilers management and they've been trying to win since the draft of RNH.

But incompetence does not equate to tanking.

Yet with all the carrying on last year after us winning the MCDavid lottery, you'd think we were deflating pucks of something. And while I can generally give two craps what others think about my team, the constant *****ing and moaning about the Oilers has become pretty old.

So yeah, I'd be fine if we moseyed our way as far up the standings ladder as possible over the next little while in order to REDUCE our chances of "winning" at the draft. At least to not have to endure all the crying if we wound up with the right to Matthews.

There's evidently been enough of it as legitimate points are made about questionable officiating in Oilers games...

 

[Oil Gauge]

Terrible, terrible call. However, those of you saying the refs should just not call close offside calls at all anymore because the coaches can challenge them is just ridiculous. Why stop there? The refs should let players take runs at goalies in order to clear the net for a goal. The coach will just call it themselves right?

If it's a close play and the linesman has to guess then he should let the play continue. No one is gonna get hurt by doing so.

Officials used to get taught the opposite, if it's close and your aren't sure. Blow it down as to not allow a scoring chance on a play that could be offside. But now with the ability to review the play the smart thing is to let the play go because you can always go back.

The linseman disagreed and I can see why. At first glance the play was so offside it insults ones intelligence.

However, if a defending player bats the puck and it ricochets off a defending players body back into his zone, the player already in there can play the puck.

The linesman deemed that Fisher played the puck with his stick and his action caused the puck to then ricocheted off his foot back into his own zone. That is entirely Fishers fault and the play is not offside.

Again, I think some are viewing it as the Colorado player shoots the puck and it ricochets off Fisher. No. Fisher hits the puck with his stick, completely changing the pucks direction...and then it goes off his own foot back the other way into his own zone.

Thus, no offside.


To use a simple analogy;

Fisher has the puck in the neutral zone and Duchene is in the Preds zone , too lazy to come out. Fisher then passes the puck to Forsberg at center, but it hits his skate and goes back into the Preds zone where Duchene still is.

Does the ref blow the play dead offside? No. Of course not.

The actual play is the same thing but it happens much faster and Fisher bats the puck off his own skate to the same result.

You are reading the rule incorrectly. Offside can only be negated due to it deflecting off of a defending player when the puck is shot or passed out of the defending zone. otherwise the defending player has to carry or pass the puck into his defending zone. Having a puck deflect off of you stick while you are trying to bat it out of the air does not constitute a pass. Hence it should have been called offside.

 

[Bending and Tending]

Nah, you clearly don't understand. I simply said what was seen in the video and you are adding nothing to the conversation except adding a bunch of nonsense that I never said.

"You don't understand. This wasn't a play that was "inches", it was a good foot and change at least and the ref was right there with an unobstructed view."

Yeah, I guess I blamed the refs for the final 7 seconds. Next time you're going to disagree with me, at least bring something to the table instead of deflecting things and going in a direction that I never went in to begin with.

So you're just upset about a bad offsides call? I'm not buying it. If there aren't 7 seconds left, in a 1 goal game, then no one cares about this missed call.

 

[Beerfish]

The officiating has been **** all season, but that was flat out unacceptable. What the hell was the linesman looking at?

Over the last 3 years the reffing has been the worst I have seen on probably 45 years of watching hockey, for all games. It's so bad that for the 1st time ever I've actually thought that instead of just making mistakes that refs are making calls with a purpose to affect games.

And now it has moved over into linesman calls. at one time these guys just almost never made mistakes, now they make a lot.

The Oilers have suffered a good many bad calls that have directly affected their games this year but I think the quality of reffing goes right back up to the league and how they are telling refs to call games.

In any case I don't think the league realizes just how badly this affects fans viewing enjoyment.

 

[Beerfish]

So you're just upset about a bad offsides call? I'm not buying it. If there aren't 7 seconds left, in a 1 goal game, then no one cares about this missed call.

Not correct, I actually care about all of the horrendously bad calls that happen each week in the NHL. You can literally pick out a half dozen calls just this bad in a weeks worth of hockey for all teams. The reffing is at its worst level in probably 45-50 years of NHL play and that is a real problem, the league seems to think is just fine.

 

[Section337]

I semi-think the offside call was made because the linesman thought a penalty should have been called on the strip that gained the Oilers control of the puck. Which is worse than temporary incompetence

 

[Oilers93]

Call was brutal no doubt but it's not like this type of stuff is uncommon around the NHL these days, hell in the Flyers-Jets game earlier there was a similar play in which Gostisbehere held the puck in and the linesman blew it dead. Officiating has been a farce this season.

 

[Aceboogie]

This is a product of coaches challenge on the off side goals. Refs are so scared of missing an off side and having a goal called back that they are now just going to over call offsides. Which just ruins tempo to the game

 

[Buck Aki Berg]

Not correct, I actually care about all of the horrendously bad calls that happen each week in the NHL. You can literally pick out a half dozen calls just this bad in a weeks worth of hockey for all teams. The reffing is at its worst level in probably 45-50 years of NHL play and that is a real problem, the league seems to think is just fine.

The referees are no better or worse than they were one-five-ten-fifty years ago. Every game is now available to everyone (legally or otherwise), and you spend a lot of time on a website whose contributors gleefully aggregate every mistake from every game for all to easily find and watch.

If Gamecenter, satellite, HFBoards, and Youtube existed in the 70s, people in the 70s would have been griping about the officiating the way people today do.

 

[stepdad gaary]

That's as close as the puck got to the blueline. Just another ridiculous call against the Oilers, nothing new here.

that team cant catch any breaks. Most unlucky organization in the league

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I feel like I'm noticing more incorrect off sides calls than in the past. Maybe the presence of the offsides review? You would think the review being in play now, linesmen would let the extra close plays go, but I feel like it's having the opposite effect.

 

[HanSolo]

This call was the first time I can remember yelling at the TV over a blown call that HELPED my team. That was absolute horse ****

Refs need to start being held accountable for key mistakes like this.

 

[chet1926]

Was it a bad call, yeah it was pretty piss poor. Was it the worst call I've ever seen, not even close.

Edmonton just be thankful that you aren't competing for a playoff spot and that it really didn't screw you. If anything you should be happy as it improves your chances at the number 1 pick....Again.

Bad calls/bad breaks happen in almost every single game it seems, just might as well get used to it. Over a 82 game schedule, I guarantee the one's for and the one's against are probably fairly equal.

The Avs had that ridiculous offside goal by Duchene, but the game before we lost in OT because the ref basically passed the puck to a wide open Shane Doan in front of our net and we had nobody to defend it. We lost a game because a ref wasn't paying attention to the play and lost track of the puck, the next game we get a lucky break and get a much needed goal because the refs can't see an absurdly offside play. Over the 82 game season stuff just seems to even itself out.

 

[Frank the Tank]

Was it a bad call, yeah it was pretty piss poor. Was it the worst call I've ever seen, not even close.

Edmonton just be thankful that you aren't competing for a playoff spot and that it really didn't screw you. If anything you should be happy as it improves your chances at the number 1 pick....Again.

Please refrain from telling us Oilers fans about how we should respond. We get mocked constantly on the main board for the Oilers gathering all these #1 picks and still being a basement team; however, when us Oilers fans demonstrate that we could care less about our draft position and are more concerned about winning more hockey games down the stretch posters like you come in to tell us to cheer for another #1 pick and also decide to throw-in an insult to end the sentence. It's insulting.

To provide context on why we are an upset bunch, the Oilers have been playing decent post-trade deadline despite playing 5 defensemen every game who played in the AHL at some point during the season. To be clear, they are by no means over the hump of becoming a competitive hockey team. Yet in back-to-back games they have lost close games that involved a series of officiating errors. The Lucic no-call against LA was ponderous at best (the refs even reviewed their call on the ice) and then after the Oilers scored to make it a game at 2-1 against Anaheim the officiating crew called the game like they had money bet on Anaheim winning, which culminated in this horrible offside call.

We're frustrated with our veteran-laden opponents getting the calls in close games, which limits this young team to only obtaining moral victories. The Oilers having a greater chance at winning the draft lottery is the least of our concerns.

 

[chet1926]

Please refrain from telling us Oilers fans about how we should respond. We get mocked constantly on the main board for the Oilers gathering all these #1 picks and still being a basement team; however, when us Oilers fans demonstrate that we could care less about our draft position and are more concerned about winning more hockey games down the stretch posters like you come in to tell us to cheer for another #1 pick and also decide to throw-in an insult to end the sentence. It's insulting.

To provide context on why we are an upset bunch, the Oilers have been playing decent post-trade deadline despite playing 5 defensemen every game who played in the AHL at some point during the season. To be clear, they are by no means over the hump of becoming a competitive hockey team. Yet in back-to-back games they have lost close games that involved a series of officiating errors. The Lucic no-call against LA was ponderous at best (the refs even reviewed their call on the ice) and then after the Oilers scored to make it a game at 2-1 against Anaheim the officiating crew called the game like they had money bet on Anaheim winning, which culminated in this horrible offside call.

We're frustrated with our veteran-laden opponents getting the calls in close games, which limits this young team to only obtaining moral victories. The Oilers having a greater chance at winning the draft lottery is the least of our concerns.

Dude honestly, I'd be cheering for another #1 pick. I would care less what some lame ass posters post on HF Boards think about the situation. I mean hell, I'm jealous. I wish my team had the opportunity to get 2 generational talents in 2 straight drafts.

The fact is you could have a 1-2 combo of McDavid and Matthews for the next 15 years. Then it's on your GM to actually cut ties with some of your other #1s and actually use them to build a team around McDavid and Matthews. Instead of just adding overpriced UFAs, cast offs, and soft wingers who have no care in the world about playing defense.

I understand why you're frustrated, it stinks to watch your team try hard and lose because of some BS. Nobody likes losing, it sucks and it probably really sucks to lose consistently for 10 years. I can't even imagine what it's been like to be an EDM fan for the past 5-7 years. I mean hell I'm frustrated with the Avs right now because it looks like they are going to crap away the playoffs for a 2nd straight year, my frustration is high but it has to be a lot less than what EDM fans are dealing with.

So my books I'm glad your team is trying hard putting in good effort and you should be glad that they aren't quitting, but I really wouldn't let this kind of bad call affect your mood, especially since losing games at this point is probably in your teams best interest. Like I said earlier who gives a **** what posters on HF Boards think about you possibly getting another #1 pick. It's a good thing to have the shot at generational talent. Hopefully your team starts to get better from the picks and casting off some previous failures.

 

[10coach*]

Original tweeter loses all credibility when he saws refs are awful every night.

 

[TLEH]

this is why they need to get rid of offsides challenge. You can't challenge the opposite way. What about all the chances that are stopped because the official calls offside, but its not offside. Its so dumb.

 

[oobga]

They really should have only started with the goalie interference challenge being available. They could have seen what a disaster that ended up being and then we never would have had to deal with this 2nd disaster.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Tonight with 7 seconds left in the game, down by 1 the refs decided to call probably the most absurd offside I have ever seen on the Oilers.




The puck didn't even reach the blueline.. We may not have scored on the play, but for real **** like this can't happen. We have offside reviews, so why not let it go and review afterwards? I don't get it.

Pretty sure other fans don't want the refs helping the Oilers finish as low as possible either, but they sure are doing there part.

If something like this happens in the playoffs I can't imagine the uproar. Reffing has been so borderline this year it's unbelievable. I hope a call like this doesn't decide a game of importance for any team in the post season.

McDavid makes an excellent play to keep the puck in and he wasn't impressed..

Yep no offsides the NHL needs to start grading the referees to help hold them accountable for things. It is simply inexcusable for that being called offsides. If referees don't get held accountable for being bad things wont get better and most likely will get worse.

 

[Aceboogie]

Off side challenge needs to go like asap. The only thing that should be challengable is a goal scored immediately after a suspected offside, like 2 or 3 seconds after on the rush. Taking away goals 20 seconds after an off side just ruins games and takes away goals. It also leads to more offside calls like this. Sure its the right call, but hockey doesnt need 100% right calls all the time. It needs pace and goal scoring

I remember watching an Oiler game on silent and they scored. Everything looked all dandy but then the refs started taking. In all the replays it was of 5-10 seconds before the goal and I couldnt for the life of me see what goalie inference there was. Then friggen they call it off because 20 seconds before there was a play offside by about 1 millimeter (if that)

 

[MeHateHe]

Yep no offsides the NHL needs to start grading the referees to help hold them accountable for things. It is simply inexcusable for that being called offsides. If referees don't get held accountable for being bad things wont get better and most likely will get worse.

Guys need to stop using this line. Officials get held accountable. They lose assignments, get left off of playoff rosters and, for officials who repeatedly make mistakes/miss calls/show bad judgement or positioning, find themselves out of a job. An on-ice official's career is pretty short, on average.

Whichever linesman made that call heard about it about 15 minutes after he got off the ice, if not sooner, and there will almost certainly be other repercussions.

 

[Daz28]

It was a bad miss by the linesman for sure, but this happens a lot. Nearly every game. It's something we've learned to live with, but coaches challenge makes it more of an issue now. I'm surprised there's this much of an issue. I'd be mad if an Oliers fan, but I understand there's thousands of potential points lost to a bad offside whistle throughout all leagues. I doubt there's tons better linesman waiting in the wings that could make fans happy.

 

[Philly85*]

well i was actually defending my original comment that wasn't directed at you to begin with. it was to the thread in general. you were the one that decided to jump in and tell me i didn't understand. my point was offsides get missed all the time in hockey games. there was one in teh avs game. i didnt make a thread crying.

Fantastic, informative post, great take on things