Value of: Best offer from Vancouver/Chicago - for the 1OA

[Budz]

Hoping for real talk and thoughtful responses.

I personally believe that Toronto should seriously look to trade down. However, you have to have a solid offer to do it.

What would fans from Chi/Van offer?

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Leafs will want a haul and from what nucks and Hawks fans have said in previous threads they aren't willing to add what would be necessary and are fine picking at their spots.

 

[Budz]

I guess I’d like to how far they WOULD go.

 

[HawksDub89]

Not the ridiculous haul you’re probably dreaming of.

It’s not that type of draft.

Toronto isn’t moving 1

 

[Budz]

Not the ridiculous haul you’re probably dreaming of.

It’s not that type of draft.

Toronto isn’t moving 1

I’m not dreaming, I’d like to actually understand what would be offered.

 

[UrbanImpact]

Not interested from a Van POV especially in a draft like this where there isnt a run to the podium consensus #1 pick like a Celebrini or Bedard. The Best player in this draft imo might be drafted anywhere in the top 5.

But just to please the topic.... A realistic offer from Van that I think Toronto would accept:

To Van
#1
- Cap Dump

To Toronto
#3
#33
Hronek ( If he agrees to waive to Toronto)
Debrusk



Van gets #1 overall, likely Stenberg for them , maybe Mckenna.

Toronto gets a top pairing RD that is in the same age cycle as Mathews and Nylander.

They still also get a very good player at #3 between who is available with Mckenna, Reid, Stenberg, Mlahotra

 

[DJJones]

If they think Sharks are going D. Decent chance both teams get either their 1st or 2nd pick at their current spot.

They wouldn't give up much at all

 

[HawksDub89]

I’m not dreaming, I’d like to actually understand what would be offered.

Well for Chicago, I’m not even sure they have McKenna 1st on their board. So I’m not sure what they would be willing to part with.

 

[DJJones]

Not interested from a Van POV especially in a draft like this where there isnt a run to the podium consensus #1 pick like a Celebrini or Bedard. The Best player in this draft imo might be drafted anywhere in the top 5.

But just to please the topic.... A realistic offer from Van that I think Toronto would accept:

To Van
#1
- Cap Dump

To Toronto
#3
#33
Hronek ( If he agrees to waive to Toronto)
Debrusk



Van gets #1 overall, likely Stenberg for them , maybe Mckenna.

Toronto gets a top pairing RD that is in the same age cycle as Mathews and Nylander.

They still also get a very good player at #3 between who is available with Mckenna, Reid, Stenberg, Mlahotra

That would be the most insane thing for Vancouver to do. Everyone on the team would be fired within a year. Sedin's included.

Imagine giving that up to go from Stenberg to Mckenna. You could take Stenberg straight up over McKenna and no one would judge you

 

[UrbanImpact]

That would be the most insane thing for Vancouver to do. Everyone on the team would be fired within a year. Sedin's included.

Imagine giving that up to go from Stenberg to Mckenna. You could take Stenberg straight up over McKenna and no one would judge you

Yep thats why I said im not interested in trading for the 1st pick at all because Canucks can very well get their guy at #3.

 

[General Fanager]

this isnt that kind of draft. The kids in the top 4 are roughly the same depending on team need. Those teams dont need to move, just take the guy you like.

 

[hamzarocks]

Not interested from a Van POV especially in a draft like this where there isnt a run to the podium consensus #1 pick like a Celebrini or Bedard. The Best player in this draft imo might be drafted anywhere in the top 5.

But just to please the topic.... A realistic offer from Van that I think Toronto would accept:

To Van
#1
- Cap Dump

To Toronto
#3
#33
Hronek ( If he agrees to waive to Toronto)
Debrusk



Van gets #1 overall, likely Stenberg for them , maybe Mckenna.

Toronto gets a top pairing RD that is in the same age cycle as Mathews and Nylander.

They still also get a very good player at #3 between who is available with Mckenna, Reid, Stenberg, Mlahotra

I would probably do that deal.

3 + 33 + Hronek + Debrusk for 1 + Rielly (if he waives) or Joshua (back again) would be the deal.

 

[The don godfather]

Minten and leafs 2028 1st round pick and vashak blaner for leafs 1st overall.

 

[Zonk]

Not interested from a Van POV especially in a draft like this where there isnt a run to the podium consensus #1 pick like a Celebrini or Bedard. The Best player in this draft imo might be drafted anywhere in the top 5.

But just to please the topic.... A realistic offer from Van that I think Toronto would accept:

To Van
#1
- Cap Dump

To Toronto
#3
#33
Hronek ( If he agrees to waive to Toronto)
Debrusk



Van gets #1 overall, likely Stenberg for them , maybe Mckenna.

Toronto gets a top pairing RD that is in the same age cycle as Mathews and Nylander.

They still also get a very good player at #3 between who is available with Mckenna, Reid, Stenberg, Mlahotra

Did Jim Benning make this post?

 

[DJJones]

I would probably do that deal.

3 + 33 + Hronek + Debrusk for 1 + Rielly (if he waives) or Joshua (back again) would be the deal.

I can't imagine any Leafs fan would say no too that

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Minten and leafs 2028 1st round pick and vashak blaner for leafs 1st overall.

Beyond terrible, but of course you know this.....whiffffff

 

[The don godfather]

Beyond terrible, but of course you know this.....whiffffff

Could be a great deal if leafs go into a top 5 position in 2028 and you get solid 2 way Minten back too only 21 years old.

 

[LaVal]

Not interested from a Van POV especially in a draft like this where there isnt a run to the podium consensus #1 pick like a Celebrini or Bedard. The Best player in this draft imo might be drafted anywhere in the top 5.

But just to please the topic.... A realistic offer from Van that I think Toronto would accept:

To Van
#1
- Cap Dump

To Toronto
#3
#33
Hronek ( If he agrees to waive to Toronto)
Debrusk



Van gets #1 overall, likely Stenberg for them , maybe Mckenna.

Toronto gets a top pairing RD that is in the same age cycle as Mathews and Nylander.

They still also get a very good player at #3 between who is available with Mckenna, Reid, Stenberg, Mlahotra

The most that's been paid to move up in the top-5 in the past 30 years has been a late 2nd (55th) and a 26 year old Mikael Sameulsson fresh off a career high 24 points. This was also to move up from 3rd to 1st.

People constantly severely overvalue the cost to move a couple of spots in the draft. A more realistic scenario would be the 3rd overall and San Jose's 2nd for the 1st overall. That's nothing that would make Toronto bite, which is why these trades never happen.

 

[Bgav]

There's no reason for the canucks to give up a haul to draft 1st overall. we will be bottom 5 for a while. we need to keep accumulating assets

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Could be a great deal if leafs go into a top 5 position in 2028 and you get solid 2 way Minten back too only 21 years old.

Even in that worst case/unlikely scenario it's still awful....1 out of 10 troll job.

 

[cfj007]

"Thoughtfull responses", then more ridiculous Toronto garbage suggestions?

 

[The don godfather]

Even in that worst case/unlikely scenario it's still awful....1 out of 10 troll job.

Jeez I thought it was fair. It's ok I'll hold those nice pieces.

 

[evdog]

Leafs can shove 1OA up their a$$. I hope no team helps them by trading up.

 

[cyris]

I can't imagine any Leafs fan would say no too that

I’d say no to that.
But I believe that this time next year the Leafs will be entering a full rebuild so I’m against a trade that brings in guys that much older at the expense of drafting the best possible prospect here.
I also acknowledge the Canucks definitely wouldn’t do this. They are just accepting that they are in a rebuild and trading away that much value to move up 2 spots is insane. Those assets will be used to bring in multiple pieces to help them in a process that will take a few years

 

[crowi]

Yep thats why I said im not interested in trading for the 1st pick at all because Canucks can very well get their guy at #3.

You either have a very.... unique... thought process no one else follows or a hard time using English. Go back and read your previous comment.