Berube // North <-> South // Coaching Systems // Elitism

[Ianturnedbull]

I watched TOR over the last couple games, and I must admit that I am watching with some discomfort. So weird seeing opportunistic scoring, pucks flicked out into the neutral zone, heavy forechecking, down low plays, etc.

How do you feel about the change so far? It certainly looks like cookies are going to be hard to come by.

Wild start, but I like the defensive structure.

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[notbias]

I watched TOR over the last couple games, and I must admit that I am watching with some discomfort. So weird seeing opportunistic scoring, pucks flicked out into the neutral zone, heavy forechecking, down low plays, etc.

How do you feel about the change so far? It certainly looks like cookies are going to be hard to come by.

Wild start, but I like the defensive structure.

Hard to judge, they generated a ton in the first game against a bad team but couldn't score, didn't generate much against New Jersey, a better term, and won with 4 goals...

Defensively they look good, but goaltending has bailed them out a few times too.

Some players have looked bad (might just be adjusting), and some players have looked good but may look worse as time goes on and the games become more structured.

It is very hard to get a feel of how well this team will do in a new structure yet.

 

[kevsh]

Same as above, but just want to point out there is a WHOLE lot of East/West still going on. So either some players haven't adjusted yet or they haven't tried to adjust, yet.

The key will be if Berube gets a full buy-in from the stars. Are they willing to forego 40/50/60+ goal/100 point seasons and personal (regular season) awards to convert to a playoffs-focused "defense first" system? And if not, who blinks first?

 

[Jojalu]

Same as above, but just want to point out there is a WHOLE lot of East/West still going on. So either some players haven't adjusted yet or they haven't tried to adjust, yet.

The key will be if Berube gets a full buy-in from the stars. Are they willing to forego 40/50/60+ goal/100 point seasons and personal (regular season) awards to convert to a playoffs-focused "defense first" system? And if not, who blinks first?

Like Col, Pitt, TB and a slew of teams, you nto be able to play both styles.

So it will be a lot more North/South but Berube is not going to get rifmd of all the East/West.

He should and probably will on the PP, but he won't try and nueter Nylander's creative side

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Marner is the epitome of East West.
He's the cap casualty.

 

[colchar]

I watched TOR over the last couple games, and I must admit that I am watching with some discomfort. So weird seeing opportunistic scoring, pucks flicked out into the neutral zone, heavy forechecking, down low plays, etc.

How do you feel about the change so far? It certainly looks like cookies are going to be hard to come by.

Wild start, but I like the defensive structure.

Why the hell would this style cause you discomfort?

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Why the hell would this style cause you discomfort?

There's comfort with familiarity. There is discomfort with strangeness and uncertainty.

 

[Dreakmur]

There's comfort with familiarity. There is discomfort with strangeness and uncertainty.

Uncertainty is better than certain failure.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

Marner is the epitome of East West.
He's the cap casualty.

THIS^.

 

[Antropovsky]

Uncertainty is better than certain failure.

Not gonna win with the free wheeling perimeter, no discipline hockey that Keefe had this team on.

I like that Berube appears to have shown this team that he's the boss. Noone respected Keefe.

 

[Roo]

I’m digging it. Our skill guys will figure it out.

 

[ULF_55]

I think some play has looked better and some play has looked worse.

PP looks like they have never had a practice.
PK looks like most other teams and has been effective.

Ask me after game 89.

 

[WTFMAN99]

The bottom 6 in 2 games has looked better than it ever has under Keefe.

I don't like the top 6, I don't know if it is as simple as swapping Marner and 88 but I don't like them at 5v5.

PP1 is also bad, it looks so damned stale. OEL and Rielly swap is probably the first change to try.