Confirmed with Link: Bertuzzi traded to Boston for 2024 1st & 2025 4th

[StargateSG1]

I think so. Sounds like the issue with Bertuzzi was simply contract. He probably think he can get much more that what Yzerman is willing to give on the open market. If he tries the open market and finds out that this is not true, I could very well see home coming back. With that said, all it takes is one GM to make a stupid offer which will likely happen IMO. But you never know.

Contract that hasn't been attempted to be negotiated since December.

 

[lilidk]

I think so. Sounds like the issue with Bertuzzi was simply contract. He probably think he can get much more that what Yzerman is willing to give on the open market. If he tries the open market and finds out that this is not true, I could very well see home coming back. With that said, all it takes is one GM to make a stupid offer which will likely happen IMO. But you never know.

It's also possible that his best when he is with Detroit. Just look how good Mantha is without Larkin and Bert

 

[kliq]

Contract that hasn't been attempted to be negotiated since December.

What is your point?

It's also possible that his best when he is with Detroit. Just look how good Mantha is without Larkin and Bert

You’re probably right. I have a strong feeling that Bertuzzi begins to slowly regress unless he signs somewhere where he plays with someone elite (ie. if he went to say an Edmonton and played with McDavid) not that I’m saying that’s going to happen before someone brings up Edmonton’s cap situation.

 

[Henkka]

I think so. Sounds like the issue with Bertuzzi was simply contract. He probably think he can get much more that what Yzerman is willing to give on the open market. If he tries the open market and finds out that this is not true, I could very well see home coming back. With that said, all it takes is one GM to make a stupid offer which will likely happen IMO. But you never know.

Yeah, I think too it will be Yzerman who will offer him the best contract at next summer. Like 5.5M x 4y. He wanted to extend Tuzzi, with his terms. Tuzzi believes there's something better elsewhere, but I'm very sceptical there isn't.

 

[Ricelund]

Yeah, I think too it will be Yzerman who will offer him the best contract at next summer. Like 5.5M x 4y. He wanted to extend Tuzzi, with his terms. Tuzzi believes there's something better elsewhere, but I'm very sceptical there isn't.

If Boston has a long run and Bertuzzi puts up good numbers, some GM will offer him an insane contract.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

If Boston has a long run and Bertuzzi puts up good numbers, some GM will offer him an insane contract.

 

[Redwing66]

All of his negotiating power will come from his performance in the playoffs. I can see Bert giving a Larkin All-Star game like effort and all bets for his off-season price tag will be back where they should be prior to his injuries.

 

[SirloinUB]

I would take Bert back in a heartbeat. Ill be shocked if it happens but Id definitely be open to a reunion if he doesn't get the contract he is looking for.

Arguably, he is one of the most appealing UFAs. Id even be willing to "overpay" on a short term deal.

 

[kliq]

All of his negotiating power will come from his performance in the playoffs. I can see Bert giving a Larkin All-Star game like effort and all bets for his off-season price tag will be back where they should be prior to his injuries.

Very good point. If Boston wins the cup and Bert is a top performer, he’ll get paid. If they are bounced by TB or Toronto (sorry, I can’t keep a straight face and say TO wins a playoff series at the same time) and he ends up with 2 playoff points, he’s not getting that huge offer IMO.

 

[14ari13]

The problem is, Detroit should have treated those games like Game 7.
And maybe they did.
Maybe they started treating games like Game 7 3 weeks ago - and they just ran out of juice.


Larkin came back from the all-star game pumped.
He and Husso are why the team climbed back into the race.
7 games 7-6-13 25 shots. -1.
Since then:
6 games 0-2-2 13 shots -4

Ottawa might do the same (get back in the race and then falter). We'll see.

They lost bad to Hawks 5-0. It will be interesting to see if they keep on losing. Next game a road game vs a strong team of golden knights.

 

[MBH]

They lost bad to Hawks 5-0. It will be interesting to see if they keep on losing. Next game a road game vs a strong team of golden knights.

Losing Talbot was killer for the Sens.
Senators goalie today was 6'7 Mads Sogaard.
6'7.
WTF.
We're almost to the joke about putting sumo wrestlers in goal.

 

[14ari13]

Losing Talbot was killer for the Sens.
Senators goalie today was 6'7 Mads Sogaard.
6'7.
WTF.
We're almost to the joke about putting sumo wrestlers in goal.

I don't follow them. I had no idea they lost their #1.

 

[Cronuss]

Hey guys, B's fan here. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what are your thoughts on why the Wings traded Bertuzzi? I know your team is semi-rebuilding, but you look like a decent team. They play well, and even if they are rebuilding, why trade a younger player like Bertuzzi who had such chemistry with Larkin and loved being there? Wouldn't your team be better off with him compared to what you got for him? If you could trade what you got for him, back for him or a player like him, wouldn't you do it? Just curious why this happened and your thoughts on it. Cheers and good luck.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Hey guys, B's fan here. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what are your thoughts on why the Wings traded Bertuzzi? I know your team is semi-rebuilding, but you look like a decent team. They play well, and even if they are rebuilding, why trade a younger player like Bertuzzi who had such chemistry with Larkin and loved being there? Wouldn't your team be better off with him compared to what you got for him? If you could trade what you got for him, back for him or a player like him, wouldn't you do it? Just curious why this happened and your thoughts on it. Cheers and good luck.

There’s a lot on this from Detroit beat writers if you want to dig into this.

Bertuzzi has had a few contract negotiations that were difficult going back to his time with Ken Holland. Yzerman was pretty up front with this decision to trade him, and it has a lot to do with negotiations.

Essentially during the offseason and leading into the deadline, the Wings and Bertuzzi’s representation never made any progress towards an agreement and Yzerman wasn’t going to let him walk with nothing coming in return. Especially with how the Wings approached the deadline with the losses to Ottawa.

Hope that helps

Edit: yes, I think everyone would have loved to keep Bert around if it was a reasonable option. He’s an easy player to cheer for, he’s beloved by his teammates, and he doesn’t cheat fans or teammates of his best effort.

 

[norrisnick]

There’s a lot on this from Detroit beat writers if you want to dig into this.

Bertuzzi has had a few contract negotiations that were difficult going back to his time with Ken Holland. Yzerman was pretty up front with this decision to trade him, and it has a lot to do with negotiations.

Essentially during the offseason and leading into the deadline, the Wings and Bertuzzi’s representation never made any progress towards an agreement and Yzerman wasn’t going to let him walk with nothing coming in return. Especially with how the Wings approached the deadline with the losses to Ottawa.

Hope that helps

Edit: yes, I think everyone would have loved to keep Bert around if it was a reasonable option. He’s an easy player to cheer for, he’s beloved by his teammates, and he doesn’t cheat fans or teammates of his best effort.

Pretty much this.

Every contract has been pulling teeth, including an arbitration award. As a first time UFA Bert is looking for money and term. Both at numbers I'm sure Yzerman wouldn't consider given the up and down history of Bert. Since he made the Wings for good he's missed 25% of possible games for a multitude of reasons.

It's a shame because unless he blows up in the playoffs he's not likely to find a dance partner to his liking in the summer.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Three Quick Points:

1 - We played this entire year without Real 'Bert, even when he was back, he didn't look right. So this team literally a week ago where all of us were riding high and talking playoffs and upsets...was on the back of a Bert'less team.

2 - Also, two weeks ago, the board all thought he was only going to net us a 2nd at best given how bad he looked and his injury history. We got more than that, the return exceeded expectations

3 - BOS will implode, probably next offseason, meaning as the Wings continue to improve and add more young talent and get hypothetically a worse 1st Rd pick to our improving record. If BOS really does lose Berggy and Krejci (and whomever if they are leaving), that Top 10 protection, and very specifically included because BOS KNOWS this is a possibly, we are holding what...a 2025 unprotected 1st from a shit BOS team.

Bergeron is coming back and no way a team with Ullmark, McAvoy, Lindholm, Carlo
Bergeron, Pastrnak, Marchand, Zacha, DeBrusk and Hall are finishing as one of the 10 worst teams in the NHL. In fact they will be worst case a bubble team.

 

[Cronuss]

Pretty much this.

Every contract has been pulling teeth, including an arbitration aware. As a first time UFA Bert is looking for money and term. Both at numbers I'm sure Yzerman wouldn't consider given the up and down history of Bert. Since he made the Wings for good he's missed 25% of possible games for a multitude of reasons.

It's a shame because unless he blows up in the playoffs he's not likely to find a dance partner to his liking in the summer.

Interesting. I wonder if the Bruins can even keep him then. He seemed devastated by the trade, so I assumed he wanted to stay.

 

[jaster]

Interesting. I wonder if the Bruins can even keep him then. He seemed devastated by the trade, so I assumed he wanted to stay.

Part of him no doubt wanted to stay in Detroit, but a big part of him wants that payday. If I’m a Bruins fan, I wouldn’t be expecting him to sign in Boston, I don’t think they have the cap structure to compete with some other teams out there.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Interesting. I wonder if the Bruins can even keep him then. He seemed devastated by the trade, so I assumed he wanted to stay.

Larkin cried at the podium of his contract extension press conference because someone brought up the Bertuzzi trade that had just happened.

Like I said, the relationships that he seemed to have were very deep in that locker room. I’m sure he wanted to stay, but he also decided to look out for his own contract interests, and that’s understandable.

I wouldn’t be shocked if he doesn’t end up in Boston because the Bruins will need to watch the cap situation closely and Bert already has made it clear he’s trying to maximize his pay.

If in the event he hits free agency and finds that the interest isn’t as high as he thought, I would not be shocked at all if he circled back to Detroit, and I hope we would entertain him.

 

[norrisnick]

Larkin cried at the podium of his contract extension press conference because someone brought up the Bertuzzi trade that had just happened.

Like I said, the relationships that he seemed to have were very deep in that locker room. I’m sure he wanted to stay, but he also decided to look out for his own contract interests, and that’s understandable.

I wouldn’t be shocked if he doesn’t end up in Boston because the Bruins will need to watch the cap situation closely and Bert already has made it clear he’s trying to maximize his pay.

If in the event he hits free agency and finds that the interest isn’t as high as he thought, I would not be shocked at all if he circled back to Detroit, and I hope we would entertain him.

No longer or higher than Copp.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

 

[Shaman464]

Larkin cried at the podium of his contract extension press conference because someone brought up the Bertuzzi trade that had just happened.

Like I said, the relationships that he seemed to have were very deep in that locker room. I’m sure he wanted to stay, but he also decided to look out for his own contract interests, and that’s understandable.

I wouldn’t be shocked if he doesn’t end up in Boston because the Bruins will need to watch the cap situation closely and Bert already has made it clear he’s trying to maximize his pay.

If in the event he hits free agency and finds that the interest isn’t as high as he thought, I would not be shocked at all if he circled back to Detroit, and I hope we would entertain him.

Nope, there is no way he's going to live up to a UFA contract. His injury record and his inability to produce without being with Larkin are the types of red flags that tell you keep away.

Hey guys, B's fan here. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what are your thoughts on why the Wings traded Bertuzzi? I know your team is semi-rebuilding, but you look like a decent team. They play well, and even if they are rebuilding, why trade a younger player like Bertuzzi who had such chemistry with Larkin and loved being there? Wouldn't your team be better off with him compared to what you got for him? If you could trade what you got for him, back for him or a player like him, wouldn't you do it? Just curious why this happened and your thoughts on it. Cheers and good luck.

The team doesn't look that good. Detroit is still threadbare at key positions, has no players that drive offensive and a middling prospect pool for high end talent (but a ton of depth) they needed as many bites at the apple over the next couple years as they can get.

 

[Cronuss]

So last question on this, I guess: Why wouldn't Detroit pay him what he wants? Especially if it was already a good fit? Is he not a player to build around?

 

[norrisnick]

So last question on this, I guess: Why wouldn't Detroit pay him what he wants? Especially if it was already a good fit? Is he not a player to build around?

Every other season has been a complete shitshow. For his career he's missed 25% of all Wing games. And I'm guessing he's not asking for 75% of his on ice value....

 

[Perfect Human]

So last question on this, I guess: Why wouldn't Detroit pay him what he wants? Especially if it was already a good fit? Is he not a player to build around?

I think the issue is term+money. He wanted 7-8 years, he is 28 now and that would make him 35-36 at the end of the contract at max cap hit still.