Bennett hit on Stolarz (no supplemental discipline) MOD WARNING IN POST #621

[The Hanging Jowl]

Seems so slight but those new elbow pads are like steel at the end

Pretty sure people are calling it "slight" because almost all of the replays are in slow-motion to show what he did. Full speed doesn't look so slight and the proof's in the pudding.

 

[ToDavid]

Stolarz was on the very edge of the crease, Bennett tries to jam the puck in, strides forward. That's not reckless. Take it on a case-by-case basis.

Contact is clearly in the blue paint, whether Stolarz is on the edge or not. Onus is on the skater to avoid him.

Intent or no, he made an illegal play that resulted in, or at least significantly contributed to, a serious injury. And he’s going to keep doing it until he faces any sort of consequences.

 

[Drytoast]

Its crazy that people don't understand that a 70-80 mph puck to the jaw will likely cause the head to snap and create a concussion, even with a helmet. If that shot hit him square on the top of the head, he's probably fine. But that puck hit him square on the jaw, you could see it snap his head ever so slightly.

There's a reason boxers aim for the chin and jaw line - its the farthest from the pivot point (neck) and thus creates the most concussive force when twisted.

The puck could have absolutely helped contribute to him being concussed. But what we do know is the contact from Bennett's fist was the final straw.

 

[Drytoast]

But where did the elbow meet the head?

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"Guise! Guise! It wasn't an elbow it was a punch!" Bennett is innocent!

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

One funny side effect of these threads is the shitload of screenshots a bunch of yas (both on the shidiot side and the good guy side of the fence) will have on your phones that will inevitably show up as memories in the coming years

 

[izlez]

He received a concussion?

He got rabbit punched when he wasn't expecting it. That's very serious stuff. Should have at least been taken away for 20 minutes to check for a concussion.

 

[Thallis]

People need to calm down and take a deep breathe.

This kind of play happens on a regular basis all around the league. It wasn't a hit, it was push. He barely touched him with his forearm, not his elbow. Maybe it deserved a 2 minutes, but that's it.

Now people are overreacting because it's Bennett and Storlaz got injuried.

Now the question is: Why does Storlaz appear to have been injured so seriously from such light contact? I don't have the answer. Maybe it has something to do with the puck he got in the face in the first period? I don't know.

Because it wasn't light contact and the goalie helmet is not designed to take force from that angle. It is designed to protect against shots from directly in front though.

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

He got rabbit punched when he wasn't expecting it. That's very serious stuff. Should have at least been taken away for 20 minutes to check for a concussion.

Was he concussed? You said he was concussed. Genuine question.

 

[Three On Zero]

Contact is clearly in the blue paint, whether Stolarz is on the edge or not. Onus is on the skater to avoid him.

Intent or no, he made an illegal play that resulted in, or at least significantly contributed to, a serious injury. And he’s going to keep doing it until he faces any sort of consequences.

Contact is outside the blue paint

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

League has made it clear once again that they are going to allow the players to police themselves. Given Toronto has the toughness Tampa Bay does not, one can only hope this series just got a WHOLE lot more interesting and physical.

Nah, if a Leaf had done that hit, it would have been a suspension. Not maybe, guaranteed. This is a battle the Leafs can't win. Win on the ice by beating these guys. That's the only revenge they're going to get.

 

[izlez]

Was he concussed? You said he was concussed. Genuine question.

No.

It was sarcasm in reaction to your conversation about blows to the back of the head, even minor ones, being very serious and dangerous.

Maybe just maybe minor contact to the back of the head happens 100 times a game?

 

[TD Charlie]

Nah, if a Leaf had done that hit, it would have been a suspension. Not maybe, guaranteed. This is a battle the Leafs can't win. Win on the ice by beating these guys. That's the only revenge they're going to get.

Calling it a hit is a bit of a stretch. It's more of a bump, or a light brush up against the mask. There's hardly any contact here

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Contact is outside the blue paint

Do you undestand the rules. Stolarz is in the blue paint. It doesn't effing matter where Bennett was

 

[AvroArrow]

I mean Greg Campbell is his AGM, so of course he wasn't

To add, Marc Savard is the Leafs assistant coach LOL so we all knew there was zero chance Bennett gets punished for this

Kind of wild that Colin Campbell still has a job after those emails got leaked

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Calling it a hit is a bit of a stretch. It's more of a bump, or a light brush up against the mask. There's hardly any contact here

Stolarz was in the blue paint. Should have at least been 2 minutes.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Pretty much no one is saying that. I've been saying I thought the shot to the dome earlier in the game was likely the primary cause SINCE LAST NIGHT.

There were literally people referring to the fact that he kept playing after the intermission as evidence that the shot didn't hurt him.

The issue is you quoted an obviously bs study/"statistic" and then blindly defended it condescendingly. That's all.

Obviously BS?

Mass General Brigham and Concussion Legacy Foundation Scientists Identify New Concussion Sign

A new concussion sign identified by Mass General Brigham and Concussion Legacy Foundation scientists could identify up to 33% of undiagnosed concussions.

www.massgeneralbrigham.org

"For the study, 347 current and former athletes between the ages of 18 and 29 were surveyed. They were shown video examples of SHAAKEs and asked about their experiences with them. 69% reported exhibiting a SHAAKE, and 93% of those reported a SHAAKE in association with concussion at least once. Athletes reported exhibiting SHAAKEs a median of five times in their lives."

"The three most common reasons athletes reported for exhibiting a SHAAKE were “disorientation or confusion” (25%), “a feeling like you needed to jumpstart your brain” (23%), and “changes to your perception of space or perception of your body in space” (14%). Other reasons athletes reported for exhibiting a SHAAKE associated with a concussion included headache, dizziness, inability to keep their train of thought, and changes to vision, hearing, or balance. Reasons athletes exhibited a SHAAKE that are not associated with concussion include neck pain, chills, pain that was not a headache, and an emotional reaction to the preceding event."

The data is far from perfect, but the data they have certainly suggests a very high correlation between SHAAKE and concussion.

 

[swiftwin]

He was puking into a bucket

Punish the action, not the outcome.

 

[Three On Zero]

Do you undestand the rules. Stolarz is in the blue paint. It doesn't effing matter where Bennett was

It 100% matters where Bennett is.

Bennett inside the crease = Goalie interference
Bennett outside the crease = Not a penalty

 

[jj7132]

Spoke with the media today, and it would not have changed any reactions if it had been last night or this morning.

what a crock of sh!t. he clealy throws a rabbit punch

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Calling it a hit is a bit of a stretch. It's more of a bump, or a light brush up against the mask. There's hardly any contact here

OK so "bumping" Bobovskry is cool going forward, right?

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

No.

It was sarcasm in reaction to your conversation about blows to the back of the head, even minor ones, being very serious and dangerous.

Maybe just maybe minor contact to the back of the head happens 100 times a game?

Are you asking me a question?

Are you also saying that blows to the back of the head, even minor ones, are NOT very serious or dangerous?

 

[Oilslick941611]

But where did the elbow meet the head?

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Posts picture that shows gloved hand hitting him in the head *AKSHULLY* it wasn't his eelllLLLbbbOOOwwWW

 

[Gizmoskevich]

"Guise! Guise! It wasn't an elbow it was a punch!" Bennett is innocent!

Where did I say he was innocent? I am only showing that no elbow contact was made to the head. He still got him with a part of his body and should have been an interference penalty, it's not just enough for a suspension alone when not accounting for Bennett's history.

 

[jellybeans]

Good call from the nhl there's nothing there move on

 

[DougBodger]

Is there a video in full speed someone can share? Everything is in slow motion.