Bell Media exploring sale of TSN

[Oilslick941611]

Lmao @90%, good satire right there.

If it’s not the nhl, cfl or some mls they are simulcasting a majority of thier content from other stations.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

As long as O-Dog doesn’t go anywhere I’m ok with it

 

[Nogatco Rd]

You can also stream live sports. TV/radio is only surviving due to blackout restrictions or people not comfortable using streaming services. Once those barriers are gone, there will be no value left in traditional broadcasting methods.

People will always want to listen in the car so I don’t see radio disappearing anytime soon

 

[ORRFForever]

i don’t even know if I’d want to take on the new cfl commissioner job. TSN contract has kept the league a float and that could get slashed with how the tv landscape is going in Canada and now this news

Looks like it has been denied...

https://3downnation.com/2024/12/09/bell-media-denies-report-about-tsn-being-for-sale/

TSN has always been lean and mean - they let Sportsnet spend themselves stupid. It must break even.

What could it be worth?

People will always want to listen in the car so I don’t see radio disappearing anytime soon

TV is not going anywhere, either. There will always be people like me who like their TV sports.

 

[rojac]

If it’s not the nhl, cfl or some mls they are simulcasting a maof thier content from other stations.

TSN also does their own broadcasts of:

Raptors NBA games
IIHF World Juniors
IIHF Championship
CHL
Various other Hockey Canada events
Curling

I think there a number of smaller events for which TSN also does its own broadcasts.

On the other hand, since the MLS Apple deal, I think the MLS games that TSN broadcasts are just simulcasts of the Apple broadcast.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

That is some next gen AI on the picture in the OP.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Damn, monopolies are alive and well on our northern border too.


That's not going to end up working the way you think it will. If Rogers gets sole control of sports broadcasting, they can do whatever the hell they want and charge as much as they want. That's how monopolies work.

That is the Econ 101 simplification, yes.

The real world is much more complicated, and it’s possible for one provider to both charge more then a single provider among many now, and less than having to maintain subscriptions with them all.

Not to mention I’m sure the NHL gets some say in pricing since they don’t want to price their customers out, and the provider wants to sell ads which encourage a wide audience too.

But yeah, Rogers sucks. Hopefully they learned their lesson by losing tons of money on the current deal.

Why would the feds allow Rogers to own both national tv sports networks when they forced Bell to sell Sportsnet after Bell bought TSN?

It all depends on how well they bribe *cough* I mean lobby.

 

[SSCBLUEJET]

I'm thinking of starting a GoFundme to purchase TSN.
Leafs games would be curtailed to one every 6 months.
Donors?

 

[varsaku]

TV is not going anywhere, either. There will always be people like me who like their TV sports.

AT&T sold Direct TV
Comcast sold alot of channels
Disney is looking at selling portions of ESPN.

Alot of big players in this market are leaving the TV channel business. It was only about time before it reached Canada. This whole model is shrinking as streaming continues to grow. If the big companies leave and viewership is low, i can't imagine any future broadcaster willing to give the investment needed to put out quality content or get broadcasting rights. Already there are now exclusive NFL games available only to stream. The number of games exclusive to streaming will continue to increase as these companies look to draw subscribers. While TV will exist, im sure it will be a shell of its former self.

 

[brentashton]

The feds have previously refused to sell Canadian entities/business to foreign companies.

PCS to BHP in 2011 is the most notable example, but there are lots of the years. The feds are more concerned when it comes to mineral/security-related items, particularly when China is involved.

Can the feds step in? Absolutely. Will they? It comes down to the circumstances of the deal. If TSN keeps offices in Canada and provides Canadian TV coverage, they might allow an American group to buy it.

The most likely purchaser is Rogers, which the feds will gladly line up to allow.

Competition (even with foreign owned entities) = Bad
Monopolies = Good

f***, I dislike the Canadian government. They just f*** the economy up every chance they get.

 

[voyageur]

Agree. Not sure who'll buy TSN.

Plus, how much do you think it is worth? I can't see it being worth too much.

BCE sure is getting lean and mean. I wish they had not overpaid for Ziply Fiber.


The CFL provides TSN with a ton of cheap summer Canadian content. $50M/yr for 86 games at 3.5 hours / game isn't a huge worry for TSN.

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Perhaps BCE spins it off because, like I said, who would buy it?

Really Bell doesn't need the CFL. I'm sure the ratings are just average, around the country. They can broadcast NFL on CTV which is what Torontonians really want. NFL is the big ticket.

No national hockey contract in a country where the major national sport is hockey hurts the bottom line. I don't know if Bell loses Raptors broadcast rights with MLSE buyout but that seems inevitably going to Rogers too. MLS? Is there a national audience for MLS or NLL that justifies the programming? PWHL? I imagine the advertising dollars are softer in those sports.

Global/Corus got out of sports years ago. And are barely surviving.

Canadian media has been funded to stay competitive but in a country this size, it is inevitable that American broadcasters eventually dominate the cable landscape, especially if CRTC regulations are eased with a new government.

It honestly would be hard on Rogers if they had to compete with Verizon, and Disney can probably outbid them in a lot of sports if they invested a greater share in TSN through ESPN. With streaming services to cover the bases.

The TSN I watched changed the landscape of hockey, with weekday hockey games broadcast nationally, without blackouts. Started the broadcast of non canadian teams in the playoffs. That's eons ago, when Much Music still played music.

I think the writing is on the wall for cable companies. 5 channels playing the same programming, and a multitude of sister networks all re-airing the same garbage, or trying to be streaming services for major network television shows isn't going to last too long. Young people have no interest in cable.

 

[MMC]

Whoever the jackass is that runs Bell has gotta be seriously low IQ. How are you burning cash and going deep into debt when you have damn near a monopoly?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Really Bell doesn't need the CFL. I'm sure the ratings are just average, around the country. They can broadcast NFL on CTV which is what Torontonians really want. NFL is the big ticket.

No national hockey contract in a country where the major national sport is hockey hurts the bottom line. I don't know if Bell loses Raptors broadcast rights with MLSE buyout but that seems inevitably going to Rogers too. MLS? Is there a national audience for MLS or NLL that justifies the programming? PWHL? I imagine the advertising dollars are softer in those sports.

Global/Corus got out of sports years ago. And are barely surviving.

Canadian media has been funded to stay competitive but in a country this size, it is inevitable that American broadcasters eventually dominate the cable landscape, especially if CRTC regulations are eased with a new government.

It honestly would be hard on Rogers if they had to compete with Verizon, and Disney can probably outbid them in a lot of sports if they invested a greater share in TSN through ESPN. With streaming services to cover the bases.

The TSN I watched changed the landscape of hockey, with weekday hockey games broadcast nationally, without blackouts. Started the broadcast of non canadian teams in the playoffs. That's eons ago, when Much Music still played music.

I think the writing is on the wall for cable companies. 5 channels playing the same programming, and a multitude of sister networks all re-airing the same garbage, or trying to be streaming services for major network television shows isn't going to last too long. Young people have no interest in cable.

CTV already shows NFL games every Sunday.

 

[Voight]

Really Bell doesn't need the CFL. I'm sure the ratings are just average, around the country. They can broadcast NFL on CTV which is what Torontonians really want. NFL is the big ticket.

No national hockey contract in a country where the major national sport is hockey hurts the bottom line. I don't know if Bell loses Raptors broadcast rights with MLSE buyout but that seems inevitably going to Rogers too. MLS? Is there a national audience for MLS or NLL that justifies the programming? PWHL? I imagine the advertising dollars are softer in those sports.

Global/Corus got out of sports years ago. And are barely surviving.

Canadian media has been funded to stay competitive but in a country this size, it is inevitable that American broadcasters eventually dominate the cable landscape, especially if CRTC regulations are eased with a new government.

It honestly would be hard on Rogers if they had to compete with Verizon, and Disney can probably outbid them in a lot of sports if they invested a greater share in TSN through ESPN. With streaming services to cover the bases.

The TSN I watched changed the landscape of hockey, with weekday hockey games broadcast nationally, without blackouts. Started the broadcast of non canadian teams in the playoffs. That's eons ago, when Much Music still played music.

I think the writing is on the wall for cable companies. 5 channels playing the same programming, and a multitude of sister networks all re-airing the same garbage, or trying to be streaming services for major network television shows isn't going to last too long. Young people have no interest in cable.

IMO Canadians in general would be better off if CRTC regulations were eased and US companies were allowed in. Pricers would go down a lot for cellphone coverage, cable etc.

 

[Chewmasey]

Whoever the jackass is that runs Bell has gotta be seriously low IQ. How are you burning cash and going deep into debt when you have damn near a monopoly?

Mirko, ...is an idiot. He sold the MLSE shares and then used the money to buy a shitshow of a telecom company in the states for 4 billion dollars, which has 2 billion dollars of debt.