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This thread is great. I'm not a big beer drinker anymore, but I still enjoy a nice cold one by the pool on a hot summer day. For a beer that's available at any vendor, Shocktop reliably fits the easy-summer-drinker bill. And I'll second the motion about Farmery being a good one too...a bit harder to find (I couldn't find any yesterday, anyway).

Edit: I was looking at the Radlers at the LC yesterday in the absence of Farmery. Anyone got a rundown on those?
 

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As someone who isn't particularly invested the Farmery vs. Fakery beer argument is hilarious. My beer aficionado friends are always good for a laugh on twitter.
 

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This thread is great. I'm not a big beer drinker anymore, but I still enjoy a nice cold one by the pool on a hot summer day. For a beer that's available at any vendor, Shocktop reliably fits the easy-summer-drinker bill. And I'll second the motion about Farmery being a good one too...a bit harder to find (I couldn't find any yesterday, anyway).

Edit: I was looking at the Radlers at the LC yesterday in the absence of Farmery. Anyone got a rundown on those?

Radlers are fantastic! Better than farmery imo.
 

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As someone who isn't particularly invested the Farmery vs. Fakery beer argument is hilarious. My beer aficionado friends are always good for a laugh on twitter.

Its funny how offended some people get over the type of beer you do or don't drink. Drink what you like. I love trying new beers but I still drink the big brands as well - mainly at Jets games heh.
 

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This thread is great. I'm not a big beer drinker anymore, but I still enjoy a nice cold one by the pool on a hot summer day. For a beer that's available at any vendor, Shocktop reliably fits the easy-summer-drinker bill. And I'll second the motion about Farmery being a good one too...a bit harder to find (I couldn't find any yesterday, anyway).

Edit: I was looking at the Radlers at the LC yesterday in the absence of Farmery. Anyone got a rundown on those?

Radlers are essentially a type of Shandy, the ones sold here are typically made with grapefruit. It's a far cry from Farmery in the taste dept as they are typically wheat based, although not exclusively.

Not a fan personally.
 

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Its funny how offended some people get over the type of beer you do or don't drink. Drink what you like. I love trying new beers but I still drink the big brands as well - mainly at Jets games heh.

Offended? Where are you getting that people are offended? As a beer geek, I love to share my passion for the incredible variety that exists in the world of beer, but as to what others drink? I honestly don't give a ****.

Someone posted earlier that they didn't like Blanche de Chambly. That's fine, I respect that. Not every beer is for everybody. At least they tried it. They ventured outside their comfort zone, and that's all I hope people will do. That's the great thing about beer. It is very affordable, and not a big strain on most people's budget to try something different. It's not like buying a several hundred dollar bottle of La Tache only to discover that you really hate red Burgundies.

Anyway, saw this on Beer Advocate and thought I would pass it along.

http://www.megadethbeer.com/

Be interesting to see what they do, given that Unibroue already has a Saison in their stable, Blonde de Chambly. Saisons are one of my favorite styles. Strong, spicy, dry finish. One of my regular homebrews, got one in the basement now that has been slowly finishing off for a few weeks now.
 

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Only one choice... Gulden Drak!

Belgian beer that is 10.5%. Actually tastes alright, and you only need to drink two of them haha.
 

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Blanche de Chambly's one of the easier drinking beer you'll find. no off flavours, nice yeast notes. let your Banquet warm up and it tastes like corn and high school floors.

keep in mind that if you like a beer, good on you. no one's saying you're wrong for liking a beer. but i pulled up the reviews for Corona and they're pretty funny.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/75/232/

Also, your comment about Bud is off. Bud has rice, but it has fermentables that are whealt/malts.

Just to add to the bolded Bud is currently in the process of trying to up the proportion of rice but hasn't hit on a solid replication of standard Bud yet. The rationale is to decrease fermentation times meaning more beer more quickly. We've been testing it for weeks and it still reminds me of Cool Spring which never tasted like Bud.
 

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Blanche de Chambly's one of the easier drinking beer you'll find. no off flavours, nice yeast notes. let your Banquet warm up and it tastes like corn and high school floors.

keep in mind that if you like a beer, good on you. no one's saying you're wrong for liking a beer. but i pulled up the reviews for Corona and they're pretty funny.

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/75/232/

Also, your comment about Bud is off. Bud has rice, but it has fermentables that are whealt/malts.

Corona reviews seem accurate. Some bottles better than others and beware of the skunk.

I found the Blanche de Chambly too fizzy if that is possible. Maybe I'll try again.

Budweiser claims that they use no wheat at all. It is a Barley malt and was actually recommended by a doctor. It is not gluten free but should be wheat free. Of course there may be wheat contamination but according to Budweiser wheat is not used at all in Bud. For some reason I can't copy the link but it is from wheat-free.org

I have probably tasted 100+ beers from around the world. I will have to pay closer attention to what I am drinking and can then add to the discussion.
 

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I am a huge Thirsty Beaver fan. Love amber ale's, beer needs some colour for me.

I liked the Northbridge Pale Ale at the growler bars this summer.
 

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I have 6 BIG Coronas, 4 Red stripe and 4 Stella in my fridge right now.
 

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I'm a Hop head, love IPA'a. Hard to have a favourite because there are always new ones to try but a few are.

Twice as Mad Tom (Muskoka)
Todd The Axeman (Surly)
Sweet Child of Vine (Fulton)
Yellow Snow (Rogue)
Fat Tug (Driftwood)
Furious (Surly)
Midnight Ryder (Indeed)
Red Racer (Central City)
90 minute IPA (Dogfish Head)

So incomplete but a start.
 

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Corona reviews seem accurate. Some bottles better than others and beware of the skunk.

I found the Blanche de Chambly too fizzy if that is possible. Maybe I'll try again.

Budweiser claims that they use no wheat at all. It is a Barley malt and was actually recommended by a doctor. It is not gluten free but should be wheat free. Of course there may be wheat contamination but according to Budweiser wheat is not used at all in Bud. For some reason I can't copy the link but it is from wheat-free.org

I have probably tasted 100+ beers from around the world. I will have to pay closer attention to what I am drinking and can then add to the discussion.

not sure what you mean by "too fizzy". it is a carbonated beverage and, since it will have more body than, for example, Bud or Corona, there will be more head.

Never seen Bud claiming they're wheat free. think you're getting some misinformation there. only some beer (like Glutenberg) are gluten free (i.e. wheat free). if Bud is using pure malt extract (which i sort of doubt is the case) then, sure. a physician recommending beer? also doubt that. Bud doesn't give away their recipe, but most, if not all, beer use 2-row or pilsner malt as the base malt. Bud uses rice (cheaper, ferments out) in addition, not as a 100% replacementl

http://www.wheat-free.org/wheat-gluten-free-beer.html

there is absolutely nothing there that suggests that Bud is wheat free (and gluten free)
 

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Current summer favorites so far

Goose Island
Goose IPA
Goose Endless IPA

Granville Island
Island Lager
Two Tides
FC Rasp - thought it was going to be disgusting but was impressed.

Half Pints Brewery

A friend brought it out to our acreage one weekend. It was a Raddler - Bikey McBike Face. I am pretty sure it was half pints..it was in a LCC Growler. This was the best raddler I have ever tasted as it was not sweet.

Tree Brewing

Visited their brew pub when visiting Kenora. Great experience, amazing staff and great beer.
Didn't really have a favorite as I tried 6-8 different brews and by number five it just tasted like beer and I was having to much fun.
 

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Current summer favorites so far

Goose Island
Goose IPA
Goose Endless IPA

Granville Island
Island Lager
Two Tides
FC Rasp - thought it was going to be disgusting but was impressed.

Half Pints Brewery

A friend brought it out to our acreage one weekend. It was a Raddler - Bikey McBike Face. I am pretty sure it was half pints..it was in a LCC Growler. This was the best raddler I have ever tasted as it was not sweet.

Tree Brewing

Visited their brew pub when visiting Kenora. Great experience, amazing staff and great beer.
Didn't really have a favorite as I tried 6-8 different brews and by number five it just tasted like beer and I was having to much fun.

not that it matters (I was drinking Goose Island last week at an event. a pantload of Juliette and Bourbon County Stout. for free. and it was delicious), but be aware as to who makes what if one's goal is to support independent breweries.

Goose Island = INBev (Budweiser's parent company)
Granville Island = Molson (as is Creemore)
someone else posted about ShockTop. that's also an INBev beer.
 

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I like the regular Goose Island beers, often my go to at a Jets game. What the LC really needs to bring back are their Belgian-style vintage ales. Picked up a Brett-fermented Matilda on holidays. Sorry, Hannu. No willpower, couldn't cellar it. It's already quaffed. I'll try to do better with my Quadrupel and Abt 12. ;)
 

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not that it matters (I was drinking Goose Island last week at an event. a pantload of Juliette and Bourbon County Stout. for free. and it was delicious), but be aware as to who makes what if one's goal is to support independent breweries.

Goose Island = INBev (Budweiser's parent company)
Granville Island = Molson (as is Creemore)
someone else posted about ShockTop. that's also an INBev beer.

Granted we've seen an explosion of independents but isn't that just how the game ultimately flows? Get successful, get bought, INBev or someone else owns your product line. That's really how the distribution ends up such that we're seeing Goose Island here in Manitoba. As a local/micro/independent their products simply can't have that substantial a reach for the most part. Sure, the MLCC brings in some products from independents in various regions but most of the local breweries of smaller scale can't really meet international or even inter-state demands until it gets ramped up well beyond the micro/local status. I'm certain there are many exceptions, Rogue out of Oregon for example, but how long until they get snapped up too?

Surly out of the Twin Cities ramped up and then had to scale back because they couldn't meet the demand initially in Wisconsin, so it went back to Minnesota only for a while. But they recently added North and South Dakota as well as Nebraska so they're getting bigger again. They're a fun, very locally focused group Sadly I fully expect them to get bought out at some point in the not too distant future. But so long as the products taste the same, after that point I'll continue to buy their products because I enjoy them.

I'll support independents where I can, but I'll also support locals, even when I know full well they are owned by the big players now (Fort Garry, Granville Island, etc.).

Goose Island is no longer local of course, but given my choices at Jets games of Bud/Bud Light/Kokanee/Keith's, I'll fire what dollars I spend on beer at the arena into the Goose Island kitty.
 

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not that it matters (I was drinking Goose Island last week at an event. a pantload of Juliette and Bourbon County Stout. for free. and it was delicious), but be aware as to who makes what if one's goal is to support independent breweries.

Goose Island = INBev (Budweiser's parent company)
Granville Island = Molson (as is Creemore)
someone else posted about ShockTop. that's also an INBev beer.

I hear what you are saying. I will be 100% honest and admit I never look or research whom makes what as it is not a concern to me. I just like trying different brews and will buy more of what I enjoy and less of what I don't enjoy. Living in the boonies in Manitoba I have to drive 50mins to Brandon to actually get something of a selection (which is not even that great). The beer vendor in town is terrible.........I think OV would be the most unconventional beer they offer LMAO and the LC/Drug store does not sell beer.

When I toured Kelowna it was nice to experience a atmosphere like Tree Brewing Co. and to absorb their passion for what they do. It was a very good experience and really pushes me to support and buy their products when available here. Same with a few vineyards we visited....really enjoyed Blasted Church as they were so down to earth.

I would like to get to Flatlanders next year as it seems to never fall on days that I have off, as I would like to experience the passion and experience of smaller brewers.

great Topic by the way. all you guys/gals are adding to my list of things to try !
 

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I will say this much for this thread, it'll make me spend more money on beer in the near future. I have a hankering to go to the LC to look around after work tonight. :nod:
 

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Goose may now be an InBev product but the IPA saved my drinking experience at Jet games.
 

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Granted we've seen an explosion of independents but isn't that just how the game ultimately flows? Get successful, get bought, INBev or someone else owns your product line. That's really how the distribution ends up such that we're seeing Goose Island here in Manitoba. As a local/micro/independent their products simply can't have that substantial a reach for the most part. Sure, the MLCC brings in some products from independents in various regions but most of the local breweries of smaller scale can't really meet international or even inter-state demands until it gets ramped up well beyond the micro/local status. I'm certain there are many exceptions, Rogue out of Oregon for example, but how long until they get snapped up too?

Surly out of the Twin Cities ramped up and then had to scale back because they couldn't meet the demand initially in Wisconsin, so it went back to Minnesota only for a while. But they recently added North and South Dakota as well as Nebraska so they're getting bigger again. They're a fun, very locally focused group Sadly I fully expect them to get bought out at some point in the not too distant future. But so long as the products taste the same, after that point I'll continue to buy their products because I enjoy them.

I'll support independents where I can, but I'll also support locals, even when I know full well they are owned by the big players now (Fort Garry, Granville Island, etc.).

Goose Island is no longer local of course, but given my choices at Jets games of Bud/Bud Light/Kokanee/Keith's, I'll fire what dollars I spend on beer at the arena into the Goose Island kitty.

again, your dollar, your opinion.
but i'm not sure why you would support Fort Garry over Molson. they're both brewed locally. even Bud's brewed in Canada. unsure if Goose Island is or not, but i wouldn't be shocked if it's being brewed up here.

your comment about indie's endgame is pretty incorrect. for example, Sam Adams. and look up Stone - they just opened a brewery in Germany. same for BrewDog, Sierra Nevada, Lagunitas...all the bigger US independent breweries are able to expand as they so desire. some, like Russian River, have little desire to overtake a market.

the independent breweries aren't typically putting out ads with chicks in bikinis or trying to squeeze out a small guy. that's a good reason, IMO, to support them. that, and most independent breweries are putting out product that crushes what the big boys make.
 

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Surly out of the Twin Cities ramped up and then had to scale back because they couldn't meet the demand initially in Wisconsin, so it went back to Minnesota only for a while. But they recently added North and South Dakota as well as Nebraska so they're getting bigger again. They're a fun, very locally focused group Sadly I fully expect them to get bought out at some point in the not too distant future. But so long as the products taste the same, after that point I'll continue to buy their products because I enjoy them.

Surly initially branched out to Chicago and had to pull back briefly, they've been back for years. They have distro in Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Illinois and the Dakotas.

They may ultimately get bought out but I don't see any reason to believe it will be in the near future.
 

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the independent breweries aren't typically putting out ads with chicks in bikinis or trying to squeeze out a small guy. that's a good reason, IMO, to support them. that, and most independent breweries are putting out product that crushes what the big boys make.

Yeah, pretty much this.
 

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again, your dollar, your opinion.
but i'm not sure why you would support Fort Garry over Molson. they're both brewed locally. even Bud's brewed in Canada. unsure if Goose Island is or not, but i wouldn't be shocked if it's being brewed up here.

your comment about indie's endgame is pretty incorrect. for example, Sam Adams. and look up Stone - they just opened a brewery in Germany. same for BrewDog, Sierra Nevada, Lagunitas...all the bigger US independent breweries are able to expand as they so desire. some, like Russian River, have little desire to overtake a market.

the independent breweries aren't typically putting out ads with chicks in bikinis or trying to squeeze out a small guy. that's a good reason, IMO, to support them. that, and most independent breweries are putting out product that crushes what the big boys make.

Perhaps because there is still a brewery here in Winnipeg that is producing Fort Garry product locally (Kenaston Avenue/Route 90). Meaning my dollars for that product may in part be going to help support people working there that live in the local economy. Is all of it brewed locally? Don't really know and I'd hardly be surprised that it is brewed in Edmonton or the GTA but I do know people working there and while it's owned ultimately by a multi-national there is still a local aspect. So that would be why I would support it over Molson. Molson, to the best of my knowledge doesn't have a brewery in Winnipeg any longer and hasn't for many years. Nor does Labatt and of course Carling O'Keefe, where I worked as a teenager (post 18 yo) has been gone a long time as well. So if you're defining local as Canadian, then yeah, no difference. Otherwise I still detect something of a difference. Same reason I buy Half Pints products.

I think we really do differ on how we view certain breweries. When I think of independents I suppose I'm thinking more smaller, local craft type situations. Sam Adams may have started out in that manner and as you point out is an independent but doesn't try to squeeze out the small guy? So they aren't concerned with market share? And while I don't recall a lot of Sam Adams marketing in this part of Canada and can't attest to the presence of bikinis or not, when I'm in the U.S. the Sam Adams advertising is pretty darn ubiquitous. But you don't equate that to the Bud/Coors Light ski/bikini advertising? I think that's just a subjective opinion on what you view as acceptable marketing. Sam Adams/Budweiser are both pushing aggressively for market share. To acquire more market share you are pulling sales away from someone else. That you're not using bikinis just means you're looking at a slightly different demographic, but it remains market share taken away from someone else. In conversations I had with guys at Surly they sure as hell want to take market share away from INBev. They also want to take it away from Fulton.

Your taste profiles really lean to independents and many of their products. I'm not dramatically different. At the same time though I don't really look down on people that are happy having a Bud Lite or guys that swear by Bud. It's what they like. I always have a cold, yellow beer around, either for myself or for guests. You keep saying you don't look down on that but man, your posts tell a whole different story.
 

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