Prospect Info: Bedard Topic 2

He had a good game though.

A nice primary assist on Korchinski's goal, over 50% at the dot.

It wasn't an amazing game for him, but it was a good one. If you felt that was a disappointing game from him, that's more on you than anything.
Sure. I guess I have a higher standard for him at this point.
 
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He made a few nice plays on offense but was pretty poor defensively as usual. Also had a really terrible penalty, and another penalty that was a tough call but he had his stick in the guy so he gets some blame.


He’s certainly had worse games, but I also wouldn’t say he had a good game last night.
 
He made a few nice plays on offense but was pretty poor defensively as usual. Also had a really terrible penalty, and another penalty that was a tough call but he had his stick in the guy so he gets some blame.


He’s certainly had worse games, but I also wouldn’t say he had a good game last night.
What are some examples of his poor defensive play last night? They outchanced, outshot, and out-attempted the Bruins with Bedard on the ice, I can't remember many dangerous scoring chances against with him out there and I don't recall any instances of him being caught out of position or losing his check. Only defensive plays from him that stick out in memory are the penalties and a nice strip of possession along the wall at the blue line, I want to say in the 2nd period.
 
hooking is becoming the flopping of the NHL. Ive never noticed it before but everytime Bedard's stick is out there the opposing player (pastrnak yesterday) just hugs it with his arm until its called. Bedard even dropped the stick and Pasta was still holding it. This has happened a few times recently against Bedard.
 
What are some examples of his poor defensive play last night? They outchanced, outshot, and out-attempted the Bruins with Bedard on the ice, I can't remember many dangerous scoring chances against with him out there and I don't recall any instances of him being caught out of position or losing his check. Only defensive plays from him that stick out in memory are the penalties and a nice strip of possession along the wall at the blue line, I want to say in the 2nd period.

A few times he was caught chasing the puck in circles not really having any impact on the play is what caught my eye last night. Basically what we've seen a lot of this season already. While they didn't give up a bunch of goals with him on the ice last night, to me that was more due to the fact Boston stinks and not because Bedard was playing amazing defense.

That strip play was really nice, I'd love if he tried that more often and think with how great he is at fetching the puck off a face-off that it's a defensive play he could become great at.
 
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hooking is becoming the flopping of the NHL. Ive never noticed it before but everytime Bedard's stick is out there the opposing player (pastrnak yesterday) just hugs it with his arm until its called. Bedard even dropped the stick and Pasta was still holding it. This has happened a few times recently against Bedard.

It's really annoying. I hope they amend the rule somehow and maybe start calling embellishment.
 

His passing, excluding the spinorama backhand and other forced passes, is his best current asset.

He has an excellent backhand pass overall, and isn’t afraid to use it even cross ice. Nobody else anywhere does that with any frequency.

He routinely makes difficult cross ice passes in the neutral and offensive zones, often to the late trailing player who he oftentimes can’t even see (as far as I can tell), as well as to players cutting to the net. I’ve been frequently amazed at how he threads passes in the offensive zone onto the tape of a teammate who shouldn’t otherwise even get a pass. At ice level I’m blown away by how many sticks his passes miss, and who he passes to. (As an aside, he makes very quick all around glances all of the time, constantly looking for and assessing teammates and opponents.)

Of course, his shorter passes can also be amazing, but they’re less mind-blowing than those long ones. He’s close to or is an elite passer, and that’s why, I think, he forces those crazy stupid passes leading to turnovers. When he gets teammates with better IQ and more talent, he will shine even more.
 
His passing, excluding the spinorama backhand and other forced passes, is his best current asset.

He has an excellent backhand pass overall, and isn’t afraid to use it even cross ice. Nobody else anywhere does that with any frequency.

He routinely makes difficult cross ice passes in the neutral and offensive zones, often to the late trailing player who he oftentimes can’t even see (as far as I can tell), as well as to players cutting to the net. I’ve been frequently amazed at how he threads passes in the offensive zone onto the tape of a teammate who shouldn’t otherwise even get a pass. At ice level I’m blown away by how many sticks his passes miss, and who he passes to. (As an aside, he makes very quick all around glances all of the time, constantly looking for and assessing teammates and opponents.)

Of course, his shorter passes can also be amazing, but they’re less mind-blowing than those long ones. He’s close to or is an elite passer, and that’s why, I think, he forces those crazy stupid passes leading to turnovers. When he gets teammates with better IQ and more talent, he will shine even more.
It's important to see him live. You can really tell what he's trying to make happen, he's a very observant player. More talent would be great for him, would 2nd year Kane be doing any better with this roster?

I have no idea what i'm talking about with his technical stride or anything but he looks slow out there to me. Or at least usually not quick enough to do what he's trying to do. When he was drafted I thought he'd be darting all over the offensive zone giving himself great looks for that amazing shot of his.
 
It's important to see him live. You can really tell what he's trying to make happen, he's a very observant player. More talent would be great for him, would 2nd year Kane be doing any better with this roster?

I have no idea what i'm talking about with his technical stride or anything but he looks slow out there to me. Or at least usually not quick enough to do what he's trying to do. When he was drafted I thought he'd be darting all over the offensive zone giving himself great looks for that amazing shot of his.
He’s got a really long stride which makes him look slow. His first few steps aren’t very quick which exasperates the issue. He also doesn’t utilize crossovers to gain north south speed like McDavid and MacKinnon
 
He’s got a really long stride which makes him look slow. His first few steps aren’t very quick which exasperates the issue. He also doesn’t utilize crossovers to gain north south speed like McDavid and MacKinnon
And he has a somewhat hunched over style too.
 
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His passing, excluding the spinorama backhand and other forced passes, is his best current asset.

He has an excellent backhand pass overall, and isn’t afraid to use it even cross ice. Nobody else anywhere does that with any frequency.

He routinely makes difficult cross ice passes in the neutral and offensive zones, often to the late trailing player who he oftentimes can’t even see (as far as I can tell), as well as to players cutting to the net. I’ve been frequently amazed at how he threads passes in the offensive zone onto the tape of a teammate who shouldn’t otherwise even get a pass. At ice level I’m blown away by how many sticks his passes miss, and who he passes to. (As an aside, he makes very quick all around glances all of the time, constantly looking for and assessing teammates and opponents.)

Of course, his shorter passes can also be amazing, but they’re less mind-blowing than those long ones. He’s close to or is an elite passer, and that’s why, I think, he forces those crazy stupid passes leading to turnovers. When he gets teammates with better IQ and more talent, he will shine even more.
Leads you to think the front office should be looking for a guy who shoots a ton to pair with him, right? Maybe Marner isn't necessarily the best option to help him fully reach his potential.

Funny enough, Sam Bennett has the 15th highest shot volume in the league this year. Obviously not the most skilled guy around, but adds a toughness element and isn't afraid to shoot the puck. His shot volume might make him a more appealing UFA possibility?

Kyle Connor, possible UFA next offseason, has the eighth highest shot volume this year.
 

It’s not a huge shock that Bedard is fifth in the league in primary assists at five-on-five. He teed up Ryan Donato’s equalizer in the third period for his 21st primary assist at five-on-five, tying him with the Edmonton Oilers’ Connor McDavid. Bedard has proved to be an even better playmaker than scorer, with nearly twice as many assists (80) as goals (43) in his first two seasons. But what’s interesting is how few secondary assists Bedard has. His 21-to-3 ratio of primaries to secondaries is by far the widest in the NHL, with Winnipeg’s Mark Scheifele (20-to-7) and Los Angeles’ Phil Danault (19-to-7) the only ones within spitting distance.

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Marner is the only forward I'd feel comfortable giving 8 years. The production has been elite since day one and his game should age well. He doesn't need to play with Bedard to justify the signing, they need 4 more top 6 forwards to go with CB and Nazar. Adding a 100 point forward to go with Bedard who should get there would be huge.
 
Marner is the only forward I'd feel comfortable giving 8 years. The production has been elite since day one and his game should age well. He doesn't need to play with Bedard to justify the signing, they need 4 more top 6 forwards to go with CB and Nazar. Adding a 100 point forward to go with Bedard who should get there would be huge.
7 years, but I agree otherwise.
 
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Yeah nothing to worry about his offense. Once he improves his skating and gets two legitimate wings that compliment his game better, he's going to put up insane points. He already generates so much, I just don't get the hate.
I think the hate is mostly for our team due to success even if it was a while ago. It’s got little to do with Bedard. Hockey fans make a bigger deal out of all things Blackhawks than they would some loser franchise.

Also, a lot of (mostly stupid) people have this strong need to feel smarter than everyone else. They love to go against the grain and say he sucks, so they can pound their chest and feel smarter than everyone else when he struggles. If he doesn’t struggle, they will dismiss his performance in another way. We have people so deluded in this world that they believe the world is flat for this reason.

People hold on to their biased thoughts like they are them.
 
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Bedard is just 5 goals in last 27GP...(since 1 game before the 4Nations pause...No matter how you slice it ...thisvis a big FAIL.
.we dod not draft this guy to be#2,if he produces goals at such a puny rate.

He wss drafted for his Generational shot that beat goalies with great frequency
..that has regressed and "gobecaway"..

His assist level is ok for the minutes he gets but it is not elite enough to make up for the lack of goals missing from what is supposed to be your top #1 90 pts + level "talent" giy on the top line.

Some improvenent faceoofs but still underwater..

5x5 defense was a big problem most of this season..have noticed some reads and back'checking inprivrnent in recent games.. maybe therevis hope he continues defensive progress next season..but he will always be disadvantaged physically vs. Biggercstribger guys.


But UNKESS he starts pumping in more goals more frequently he will grade as a huge FAIL..

Draftdx hom to score goals...he had got to produce a kot more u that area.
We drafted forca 40 goals + guy not a mere low 29s guy..

Sorry but thse are the facts.

Live uoto it or be judged harshly.

Next srsson he must Progress...not stagnate at this current level or worse refers even more..

A lot more pressure on hom next season.
 

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