In Florida its law you must roll your window down and exit the vehicle when requested by the police. As it should be. He was pulled over for speeding and reckless driving. With a tinted window they can’t tell if he has a weapon or grabbed a weapon after rolling his window back up.
Power tripping, racist pigs. No surprise at all it happened in Florida. Stop making excuses for piece of shit cops. He was calling his f***ing agent when he rolled his window up. Probably to get a lawyer available. As a black man should when approached by power tripping pigs.
They wouldn't have been power tripping if he did what he was told to do. If he just complied, kept his window even half way down, there wouldn't have been a problem. His shitty attitude is what caused the issue, disrespecting police is never a good idea, especially in Florida. I have zero sympathy for that woman/child abusing POS.
If it's law then he should have kept it down. Won't disagree with you if that's the case. It's also not a common law everywhere. He's lived in Miami for what? A year or so? Good chance he doesn't know that's the law. There's nothing in those videos that defends the cop's actions, though. They reacted the way they did because he was a wealthy black man in Miami, and probably under the assumption that he was some kind of drug dealer or something based upon the car. There's no excusing the way they acted. There's no defending them rag dolling him out of the car for something so simple as not keeping his window rolled down, and for speeding. It's really easy for a cop to say "Hey, it's the law in Florida that the window needs to stay rolled down through the entirety of the stop." THEY escalated the entire situation, and escalated it to the extremes that it got to. This is SOP for a lot of cops. They think they're above and beyond any reproach, or rule of the law, themselves.
Nah, they reacted that way because he treated the cops like shit from the second they knocked on his window, and had an egotistical attitude towards them the entire time. Why should the cops respect you, if you don't respect them? All he had to do was not be an entitled prick, and keep his window even half way down instead of all the way up, after they told him to keep his window down. Dont feel sorry for Tyreek at all after hearing him talk to the cops the way he did. f*** him.
I didn't hear a single egregious thing in that video, even when he was being rag-dolled. What did you hear that said he was "egotistical and showing no respect"? That he was being an "entitled prick?" I see him with a window down, handing his license, and just saying "Don't knock on my window like that." Hardly warrants being rag-dolled the way he was. It's like a $300,000 car. I wouldn't want someone banging around on it, either. Don't hear much else in the way of attitude at that point. He says "Give me my ticket so I can go, gotta play in a game(or gonna be late). Do what you gotta do." He rolls the window back up. Cops freak out over it and start banging on the window, even though he does comply, and rolls the window back down a couple inches. Like... I don't feel like any of it is that bad to warrant the treatment he got. Cops says to keep the window down or I'm going to get you out of the car. Then immediately changes to "As a matter of fact, get out of the car." Like... that's escalation, not de-escalation.
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Evidence and/or citation needed. Because he wasn't even given a speeding ticket. So someone can "drive like a maniac through the city streets." and "drive recklessly", but somehow not be speeding?
He was given two tickets, and the MPD said in their statement that he was driving in a manner in which he was putting himself and others in great risk of danger.Evidence and/or citation needed. Because he wasn't even given a speeding ticket. So someone can "drive like a maniac through the city streets." and "drive recklessly", but somehow not be speeding?
And it's kinda funny that you are leaving pieces out of your dialogue that show the cop escalated things as opposed to de-escalating when it comes to asking him out of the car. He says "Keep the window down or I'm gonna get you out of the car", and less than a second later says "matter of fact, get out of the car." Like... that's not how this shit works. Just because they're cops doesn't mean you have to forfeit your rights and protections.
Wont get much argument from me there.
Roll your window down when a cop is pulling you over! That's not too much to ask. It's part of keeping the process safe. Tinted windows being rolled up make it unknown whether or not you're reaching for a weapon.
)had way too short of a fuse, shouldn't have yanked him out of the car, shouldn't have manhandled him. Not arguing with any of that.
Not gonna keep getting into it with you, honestly. We disagree on some shit, agree on some shit. But there's a definite systemic problem with police here in the US that can't be denied at this point. Way too many of them on a power trip, and way too many of them who get into the job because of the power it gives them over other people. It's ugly. A lot.
I'm not about that defund the police nonsense, because 99% of the people who spew it have no idea what it actually means, or what they're asking to do. But yeah, there's a problem with a lot of police in this country. Plenty of good ones, but plenty of bad too.
Can't argue with that, but I just dont feel sympathy for people who choose to interact with police the way he did.
There's a difference between not understanding that police use excessive force when they shouldn't, and feeling sympathy for a POS like Tyreek for putting himself in that position.
You going to try and tell me that the proportion of these incidents involving police don't lean HEAVILY towards black people compared to white people? A fatal police encounter is over 2.5 times more probable for a black person compared to a white person over the past 9 years, alone. And that's probably considered an "improvement" in comparison with the previous 50-60 years.
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A white guy driving a $400k McClaren is getting treated with f***ing kid gloves in that situation, because they are worried about getting fired and sued.... They likely assumed Hill was a criminal (you know, because he's black). The fact that none of them knew his name tells me they never even ran his plates... Just went full lunatic when they saw it was a black guy.
Short-tempered bullies don't belong on the force with all of the backing of the state and legitimate use of violence that comes with it. Hill is an asshole for many reasons but in any other context, a public servant abusing a private citizen- even one acting much more belligerent than Hill in this situation- doesn't get a pass. No reason cops should when they are the ones with specific training for keeping these situations under control. Someone being rude during a traffic stop doesn't merit this kind of response and these guys need to be held to a higher standard or they need to get the hell off the force
That's the thing. When he was pulled over, the window was down and he hands the cop his license. As he does, he says "Don't knock on my window like that." Cop says repeatedly "Why don't you have your seatbelt on?" and he just repeats himself. Then the cop says "Like what?" I wouldn't want them to, either, if I was in a car that cost over a quarter of a million dollars, at minimum. Every chance the cops had to de-escalate or escalate the situation, from that point forward, they chose to escalate. It's a fantastic example to show to officers in training how to NOT handle an extremely routine traffic stop.
