OT: Bears & NFL Talk 99 (also 2024 NFL Draft GDT)

bwanajamba

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The headline quote aside, so much to like from Moore in this article. The Bears were extremely fortunate to get a guy with his combo of talent and character
 

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I always hesitate to use the word "diva" because, in general, I'm fine with guys trying to get the most money. At the same time its genuinely unique to see how DJ Moore is this good without a major ego.
 

Romang67

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Interesting experiment. Guessing it means they don't see a ton of value in him as a WR, but are interested in using him as a gadget player and kick returner.

Premature reaction based on the first preseason game, but Poles 3rd round vs 5th round results so far are fun:

3rd round:

Velus Jones Jr. - Probably a specialist rather than a starter receiver going into year 3
Zacch Pickens - Not looking great so far in preseason year 2
Kiran Amegadjie - Injured

5th round:

Braxton Jones - Good LT, going into year 3 as a starter
Terell Smith - CB4, could possibly start but is blocked by a really strong secondary
Austin Booker - Project, but will probably get playing time year 1
 

Romang67

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Plenty of talk about bringing back Ngakoue. Genuinely no clue why people would want that. His pass rush numbers didn't really improve after the Sweat acquisition unlike the other players on the line, and he's a complete liability against the run. And people want to bring him back AFTER a bad injury? He had a case for worst edge in the league last year, and now he's one year older and coming off a broken ankle.

Gervon Dexter continues to get mentions in training camp, getting into the backfield both on runs and pass plays. I think he'll take a big step this season.
 
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Interesting experiment. Guessing it means they don't see a ton of value in him as a WR, but are interested in using him as a gadget player and kick returner.

It's an example of a GM who refuses to admit he made mistake

Cut ties and move on

Jones is awful after everything including his so called "Specialty"

Plenty of talk about bringing back Ngakoue. Genuinely no clue why people would want that. His pass rush numbers didn't really improve after the Sweat acquisition unlike the other players on the line, and he's a complete liability against the run. And people want to bring him back AFTER a bad injury? He had a case for worst edge in the league last year, and now he's one year older and coming off a broken ankle.

Gervon Dexter continues to get mentions in training camp, getting into the backfield both on runs and pass plays. I think he'll take a big step this season.

Simple

Our GM didn't address the issue at draft/FA so again Bears are desperate for pass rushing talent
 

Romang67

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It's an example of a GM who refuses to admit he made mistake

Cut ties and move on

Jones is awful after everything including his so called "Specialty"



Simple

Our GM didn't address the issue at draft/FA so again Bears are desperate for pass rushing talent
Jones Jr. has been plenty good as a kick returner. For players with more than 10 kick returns in a season, he had the 5th highest average return in 2022, and highest average in 2023. He's been a bad punt returner.

We'll see if he's still a good kick returner with the new rules.

As to the pass rush, it will probably come down to Dexter. If he's better than Jones was last year, the pass rush will probably be at least average. The QB pressure numbers improved vastly after the Sweat acquisition. I don't think Ngakoue would make a lick of difference if they sign him again.
 
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It's an example of a GM who refuses to admit he made mistake

Cut ties and move on

Jones is awful after everything including his so called "Specialty"



Simple

Our GM didn't address the issue at draft/FA so again Bears are desperate for pass rushing talent

The OL *still* has plenty of question marks, hidden or otherwise. Could have used that 3rd round pick wasted on Jones on a center/guard.
 
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On one of the myriad of Bears podcasts on youtube (it happened to be the top of the search hits), a sportswriter or blogger of the Lions was interviewed. When asked by the hosts why Detroit was content to let Swift go, being unable to count on him being available (always becoming "injured" by some point in a season) was the rationalization given. At the end, when asked who would be the preferred RB, Montgomery or Swift, the guy circled back to who could make himself available at game time.
 

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On one of the myriad of Bears podcasts on youtube (it happened to be the top of the search hits), a sportswriter or blogger of the Lions was interviewed. When asked by the hosts why Detroit was content to let Swift go, being unable to count on him being available (always becoming "injured" by some point in a season) was the rationalization given. At the end, when asked who would be the preferred RB, Montgomery or Swift, the guy circled back to who could make himself available at game time.
If the Lions are satisfied with Montgomery, good for them, but I believe Swift has higher upside and impact ability. So I prefer Swift.
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As for Velus Jones/RB experiment, I kind of like it. He was always built more like a RB and not a WR, so it's worth a shot. A little desperate, sure, but the dude is dynamic with the ball in his hands. So worth while gamble.
 
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