OT: Bears & NFL Talk 99 (also 2024 NFL Draft GDT)

[ndgt10]

Vikings gave up

11, 42, 129, 157, 167, 188,
2025 2nd, 3rd, 4th

For Dallas Turner and jj mccarthy

 

[plasmonresonance]

Ryan Pace with the primary assist for the bears tonight. Great work Ryan keep it up.

Guessing he truly believes in 'third time's the charm' when it comes to drafting QBs

 

[Romang67]

Plenty of good defensive lineman and centers available who will go this round.

How far does Newton have to drop before you start banging the table for a trade up?

 

[ndgt10]

How far does Newton have to drop before you start banging the table for a trade up?

45

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I like DT Ruke Orhorhoro or EDGE Adisa Isaac for Bears to trade into 2nd round for

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[clydesdale line]

How far does Newton have to drop before you start banging the table for a trade up?

Depends how bad that foot issue is. Supposedly it's a serious concern. That's why he's dropping.

 

[Romang67]

I'm going to waste a lot of time watching videos of people reacting to the double-whammy of picks #8 and #9.

Keenan Allen is going to be such a impact as a pickup. Not just for his talent as a receiver, but because he'll be there to mentor Odunze and be the zone beater for Williams.

 

[Romang67]

Depends how bad that foot issue is. Supposedly it's a serious concern. That's why he's dropping.

Yeah, seems it's a bad one. Both Deebo Samuel and Derrick Henry have had it recently though, so it's obviously not a complete death sentence.

 

[clydesdale line]

Yeah, seems it's a bad one. Both Deebo Samuel and Derrick Henry have had it recently though, so it's obviously not a complete death sentence.

The one thing I will say is Pace was the one who gambled on guys with injury concerns than Poles has. Pace took a chance on guys like Eddie Jackson, Jaylon Johnson etc. Poles has relied more on availability in a player. The one guy they were going to sign, got his contract canceled right away due to a failed physical (Ogunjobi).

 

[ndgt10]

Yeah, seems it's a bad one. Both Deebo Samuel and Derrick Henry have had it recently though, so it's obviously not a complete death sentence.

They're also not 300 pounds

 

[Romang67]

Fun fact about Ricky Pearsall: he's almost as old as Velus Jones Jr. was when he was drafted.

They're also not 300 pounds

Supposedly they're pretty bad for RBs. Worse than for D-linemen, who are the 2nd worst hit by those fractures.

 

[StreetHawk]

Vikings gave up

11, 42, 129, 157, 167, 188,
2025 2nd, 3rd, 4th

For Dallas Turner and jj mccarthy

That's not the way to look at it as they were given picks 11 and 42 by NFL like every other team.

They, in the end gave up 129, 158, 167, 188 and their 3 picks in 2025. Not sure why they added 23 in this year's draft. But, they managed to get JJ with basically their own #11 pick. How close is Turner to Anderson, which cost Houston a 1st, 2nd and 3rd to go from 12 to 3 to get him?

Draft fell perfectly for Bears. Latham and Penix in for what I had expected to be Turner and McCarthy in a trade up. Medical on Newton probably kept Seattle from trading down from 16 to Minny at 23. Would have to be prepared to not get Murphy at 23. So, if Newton is a medical concern, they couldn't take that risk. Was surprised to see him not go round 1. Same with Dejean.

 

[Scottkmlps]

That first round was a dream scenario for the Bears, couldn't have gone any better. Still can't believe Odunze was there at 9.

 

[ndgt10]

That's not the way to look at it as they were given picks 11 and 42 by NFL like every other team.

They, in the end gave up 129, 158, 167, 188 and their 3 picks in 2025. Not sure why they added 23 in this year's draft. But, they managed to get JJ with basically their own #11 pick. How close is Turner to Anderson, which cost Houston a 1st, 2nd and 3rd to go from 12 to 3 to get him?

Draft fell perfectly for Bears. Latham and Penix in for what I had expected to be Turner and McCarthy in a trade up. Medical on Newton probably kept Seattle from trading down from 16 to Minny at 23. Would have to be prepared to not get Murphy at 23. So, if Newton is a medical concern, they couldn't take that risk. Was surprised to see him not go round 1. Same with Dejean.

Turner isn't close to the prospect Anderson was. He won't be a factor for at least 3 years. Latu was far and away the best Edge in the draft but his health concern held him down.

 

[Romang67]

Now the big question: can Caleb Williams, with Moore, Allen, Odunze, Kmet, Everett, and Swift, together with an average O-line, finally beat out Chuckin' Charlie O'Rourke's record 11 passing TDs for a Bears rookie QB?

Follow-up question: on the off chance he does it, will he look this good doing it?

 

[ndgt10]

Now the big question: can Caleb Williams, with Moore, Allen, Odunze, Kmet, Everett, and Swift, together with an average O-line, finally beat out Chuckin' Charlie O'Rourke's record 11 passing TDs for a Bears rookie QB?

Follow-up question: on the off chance he does it, will he look this good doing it?

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I don't think so. The Oline is bad. Packers destroyed it the final game.

 

[ClydeLee]

It already begins...

It's amazing Orton had 15 starts. On a playoff team, and didn't hit that TD number. And I've heard Caleb might take his legendary #18 which he wore in hs

 

[Romang67]

I don't think so. The Oline is bad. Packers destroyed it the final game.

The O-line was fine for most of the year. The two weakest links were also replaced.

You can also gameplan for a leaky O-line with a quick passing game, if the QB can get the ball out quickly to players who can get open.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I'm going to waste a lot of time watching videos of people reacting to the double-whammy of picks #8 and #9.

Here are some reactions to Falcons pick from Falcon season ticket holders




And here is media (Assume newspaper/beat writers/etc types) at draft

 

[southsideIrish]

Yeah it's been pretty fun at work today asking coworkers so.....about that pick.....lol.

Going to the Braves game tonight, will be fun to chat with folks.

It's really mind-boggling - I get that they still have a crapton of picks to work with, but man.

 

[Illinihockey]

How far does Newton have to drop before you start banging the table for a trade up?

I’d start seeing what it’d take now. Carolina’s 2nd and our third this year?

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Wasn't around for the draft but when I was free around nine o'clock I saw this text from a good friend of mine who is a huge Falcons fan.

 

[StreetHawk]

That first round was a dream scenario for the Bears, couldn't have gone any better. Still can't believe Odunze was there at 9.

Nah... Given Harbaugh, I felt confident he'd got OL with his pick over WR had they stayed put. Same for Tenn. With young QBs, like Tenn as well with Levis, protect them so that they get used to going through their progressions rather than run for their life after first read is not there and looking for their top WR. With less padded practices, getting top quality OL is a priority over WR/weapons in general. If Skronski and Latham are good, and Alt is good, as we know Slater is excellent, then both those teams have bookended their OL for their QBs.

 

[Illinihockey]

Nah... Given Harbaugh, I felt confident he'd got OL with his pick over WR had they stayed put. Same for Tenn. With young QBs, like Tenn as well with Levis, protect them so that they get used to going through their progressions rather than run for their life after first read is not there and looking for their top WR. With less padded practices, getting top quality OL is a priority over WR/weapons in general. If Skronski and Latham are good, and Alt is good, as we know Slater is excellent, then both those teams have bookended their OL for their QBs.

Skronski played guard last year

 

[Hakoon]

I think the Bears' greatest need is an interior lineman, either Guard or C.