Sarava
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The Texans and Broncos both sniffed a win today, but came up short. Either way, the Bears are now locked in to the top 6 if they go 1-3 or top 3 if they lose the last 4. They'll be screwed if they win 2 or more games.
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Blackhawkswincup
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Having a pick when a top qb is still on the board will bring good assets beneficial top the level of rebuild they are in.
Sarava
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The mocks I'm seeing have defense going 2 and 3 lately. This one from yahoo has QB's at #1,4 & 6.
Right now the Bears are at #3. Seattle is at #2 courtesy of Denver. The good news is - Denver seems to be playing better lately, and they have zero incentive to tank since they dont own their own pick. Hopefully they have a win left in them.
2023 NFL mock draft ahead of bowl season: Hendon Hooker, Jalin Hyatt projections
2023 NFL mock draft ahead of bowl season: Hendon Hooker, Jalin Hyatt projections
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EbonyRaptor
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As long as the Bears don't win any of their last 4 games - they're guaranteed the 3rd pick which would move to the 2nd pick if Denver wins a game.
I'm all for the trade down for multiple picks idea but for that to be a real possibility there needs to be a QB sitting there when the Bears pick that another team would give up multiple picks to move up and get the QB - the problem, as I see it, is none of the QB's are good enough to entice a team to do the trade - they all have flaws that makes them less than ideal sure-fire NFL QBs. So the trade down scenario may not work out as many Bears fans hope it will.
And then - what of the Bears are in the #3 slot and Anderson and Carter go 1 and 2 - now what? They don't want a QB so which player would be #3 on the Bears draft board?
All that said to emphasize how important free agency is for the Bears leading into the draft. If the Bears can get 2 stud d-tackles and either a right tackle or center - then they can focus the draft on getting the 2nd best edge rusher with their 1st round pick.
I'm all for the trade down for multiple picks idea but for that to be a real possibility there needs to be a QB sitting there when the Bears pick that another team would give up multiple picks to move up and get the QB - the problem, as I see it, is none of the QB's are good enough to entice a team to do the trade - they all have flaws that makes them less than ideal sure-fire NFL QBs. So the trade down scenario may not work out as many Bears fans hope it will.
And then - what of the Bears are in the #3 slot and Anderson and Carter go 1 and 2 - now what? They don't want a QB so which player would be #3 on the Bears draft board?
All that said to emphasize how important free agency is for the Bears leading into the draft. If the Bears can get 2 stud d-tackles and either a right tackle or center - then they can focus the draft on getting the 2nd best edge rusher with their 1st round pick.
Sarava
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That doesn't always stop teams. See the Niners trading away their future to draft Trey Lance 2 years ago. They traded the 12th pick and a 3rd round pick, plus their next 2 future 1st's to get to 3rd and select Trey Lance. I doubt the Bears can get this type of haul, but it's worth exploring.
But if the 2 defensive studs go 1-2, that probably plays best in to the hands of the Bears if they want to move down for picks. Someone will offer them the motherlode for Bryce Young if by some miracle he is still there.
Oh and the Broncos play the Cardinals this weekend, who will be without Murray since he seems to have torn his ACL. The Broncos could actually win their next 2 games. because they then play the Rams on Christmas Eve.
The Bears are really in great shape, as long as they don't get stupid and win 2 or more of the remaining games. I think top 5 guarantees you either a stud defensive player or a big trade down possibility. And I just cant imagine them winning against Philly, Buffalo or Detroit right now (barring injuries leading up to those games).
With K Murray going down last night and R Wilson possibly in the protocol, next week's game with Denver (3-10) vs Arizona (4-9) just got more interesting.
And it sure would be nice to see Cleveland get another win because the Texans get their pick. If by some small chance Cle ends up in top 5-6, Texans may do something silly that could mess things up for the Bears.
EbonyRaptor
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Good point.
Lots of dominoes still to fall before the picture becomes clearer on draft day but if I could dictate what will happen - it would be that the Bears use free agency to remake their defense with emphasis on the d-line and then trade down to get 2 picks later in the 1st round and draft WR Q.Johnston and G/T Skoronski.
No Fun Shogun
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Bears are actually going to try to get the state on board with some tax trickeries for Arlington Field.
Basically zero chance of this happening, but nice try, I guess, and at least they're not fishing for a Reinsdorfian pile of cash from the state coffers.
Basically zero chance of this happening, but nice try, I guess, and at least they're not fishing for a Reinsdorfian pile of cash from the state coffers.
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Blackhawkswincup
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Not able to watch game as I don't have NFL Network, but Vikes are getting humiliated 30-0 in 2nd qtr.
ClydeLee
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Utterly nonsense, that will be a narrative yet a equal case stopped a Colts TD from the 1st drive
Didn’t see the first drive so can’t comment on that. But that was terrible reffing on what should of been a touchdown for the Vikings.
No Fun Shogun
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Cleveland beating the Ravens would be nice; give the Browns 6 wins, worsens their pic going to the Texans, just in case Houston would want to do anything funny if they got a second top 5/6 pick. Ravens losing also worsens their record, 'tho not sure it will significantly improve Bears 2nd rounder much.
Blackhawkswincup
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Jeff Saturday hire was a joke moment it happened, and he rightly is getting called out for his lack of coaching, adjustments
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