OT: Bears & NFL Talk 93

[No Fun Shogun]

Cowboys are going to get PETA called on them for brutalizing the Colts.

 

[HeisenBaez]

Well, it's been a day for Chicago sports teams. Maybe one day, Chicago will have good teams.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

Ok so the Bears sit at #2 for the moment and from being eliminated today, have secured no worse than the #18 pick. My understanding is they lose most tiebreakers for that draft spot? I'm guessing because playing the NFC East ran up their SOS?

Ironically the other 3 win teams both lose their draft pick due to trades. Denver's goes to Seattle and the Rams pick goes to the Lions from the Stafford trade. The good news is - the Rams and Broncos play each other on Christmas Day - so at worst the Bears would be drafting #3 if they lose out.

The most dangerous likely upset win is probably the finale against Minnesota. If they aren't playing for the bye, then they will likely sit most of their good players.

Correct. The Bears have played 1 more game than the Rams and Broncos so after their bye week the Bears could find themselves 4th in the draft if the Rams and Broncos both lose next week due to Strength of Schedule tie breaker - but after the Rams and Broncos play each they will move into the 3rd spot - unless - the Rams and Broncos game ends in a tie in which case the Bears will be in the 2nd spot. The Bears just have to lose out to be assured of the 3rd spot with the possibility of the 2nd spot still there.

 

[ndgt10]

Bears will beat Vikings last week since they will sit all their starters.

 

[Sarava]

Correct. The Bears have played 1 more game than the Rams and Broncos so after their bye week the Bears could find themselves 4th in the draft if the Rams and Broncos both lose next week due to Strength of Schedule tie breaker - but after the Rams and Broncos play each they will move into the 3rd spot - unless - the Rams and Broncos game ends in a tie in which case the Bears will be in the 2nd spot. The Bears just have to lose out to be assured of the 3rd spot with the possibility of the 2nd spot still there.

And honestly, between the 2 top QB's and Will Anderson, I'm more than ok with #3. Hopefully they don't go lower than that.

 

[Illinihockey]

 

[plasmonresonance]

Talent.

18 Bear players took defensive snaps yesterday. Their total annual salary amounts to about $29.3 mil; $6 mil is for J Jones (74% D snaps) and $4 mil for A Muhammad (55%). So the remaining 16 players is about $19 mil total salary. Jaire Alexander (GB) makes $21 mil alone. It's kind of surprising Bears were able to stop GB at all.

 

[Mrfenn92]

18 Bear players took defensive snaps yesterday. Their total annual salary amounts to about $29.3 mil; $6 mil is for J Jones (74% D snaps) and $4 mil for A Muhammad (55%). So the remaining 16 players is about $19 mil total salary. Jaire Alexander (GB) makes $21 mil alone. It's kind of surprising Bears were able to stop GB at all.

Agreed played well

 

[Mrfenn92]

Carolina releases baker mayfield

 

[Giovi]

Can someone tell me wtf Getsy sees in ESB to play him over Harry so much?

Harry has shown way more then ESB in many fewer snaps.

I think Harry has a chance if they'd give it to him.

They like St Brown because he's a good blocking WR.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

They like St Brown because he's a good blocking WR.

Harry can block too

 

[Giovi]

Harry can block too

Evidence suggests the Bears coaching staff believes St Browne is the better blocker.

 

[Illinihockey]

Bears will beat Vikings last week since they will sit all their starters.

This is the game I’ve been worried about for a while. Need the Vikings tied with the eagles going into week 18

 

[Illinihockey]

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Tom Brady remains the luckiest QB in NFL history.

 

[plasmonresonance]

Tom Brady remains the luckiest QB in NFL history.

Crap. I turned that game off with about 6 min to go and NO up 16-3. After they punted and pinned TB back at the 9yd line. Brady and TB weren't moving the ball very well all game long. I shoulda known better.

 

[Illinihockey]

 

[hawksrule]

I can’t say I’ve noticed him much, but that’s a good thing for OL. If he’s really a strong lt going forward, that’s awesome for a 5th round pick.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

I can’t say I’ve noticed him much, but that’s a good thing for OL. If he’s really a strong lt going forward, that’s awesome for a 5th round pick.

Disclaimer: I'm not a talent evaluator, especially on the nuances of OL play - so other than my eyeball evaluation of watching the game on TV - which is basically in keeping with the bolded above - my opinion on Braxton Jones is formed from listening to the opinions of NFL guys who know a whole lot more than I do on the topic.

And ... I've heard nothing but good things from them about Braxton Jones, some effusive in their opinion. There is consensus that he has all the measurables and athleticism a LT needs to be not just good but very good or even great, but he needs to get more lower body strength to counter the best bull rush moves. The fact that he came from a small college with a strength and conditioning program nowhere near what NFL teams have gives cause to believe Jones can add the strength to become that very good LT - IF - he's committed to putting in the work to get there. So here is the 2nd piece of evidence to suggest he will become the long term answer at LT for the Bears - those "in the know" NFL guys believe he has the proper attitude to take coaching and work hard at improving.

If Jones can be that long term LT - that is huge for the rebuilding of not just the o-line but the entire team. Not only does it mean you have one of the most important positions set, but it means you don't have to spend resources to get one, meaning those resources can be spent on other needs.

So, being optimistic, let's say Jones is the answer at LT - and Teven Jenkins is the answer at right guard - that still leaves 3 OL positions to fill. Maybe Leatherwood shows he can be one of those guys either where he is currently at RT or possibly at left guard - that still leaves 2 OL positions to fill. Most likely Whitehair won't be back but what about Patrick at center? Injuries may say not, but were his injuries more fluky than long term concerns? I don't know.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

The skidding Rams with a Baker Mayfield that had about a half hour to study their playbook just beat the Raiders.

lol

 

[Sarava]

The skidding Rams with a Baker Mayfield that had about a half hour to study their playbook just beat the Raiders.

lol

Good news for the Bears draft pick. Need the Broncos to win one of their games now.

 

[clydesdale line]

Good news for the Bears draft pick. Need the Broncos to win one of their games now.

Yup. That is absolutely HUGE for the Bears. Hell, might have to root for the Broncos to beat the Rams when they play each other in 2 weeks.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

This is a fun watch - Fields highlights.




Oh well ... it's blocked.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Pickett injured for Steelers (Concussed on sack by Roquan Smith it seems)

Trubisky having himself a day

3 INT's and Steeler fans are calling for 3rd string QB (Who isn't dressed)

I am old school and believe dressing 3rd QB

Today is perfect example of why you should

QB's taking beating today

Pickett
White
Huntley

All injured today

 

[ClydeLee]

Pickett injured for Steelers (Concussed on sack by Roquan Smith it seems)

Trubisky having himself a day

3 INT's and Steeler fans are calling for 3rd string QB (Who isn't dressed)

I am old school and believe dressing 3rd QB

Today is perfect example of why you should

QB's taking beating today

Pickett
White
Huntley

All injured today

I do not get why the NFL dropped the emergency QB can be activated rule.

Roquan Smith had one of Mitch's ints too