OT: Bears & NFL Talk 92

[HawksBeerFan]

Why can't they just throw it into the proper endzone?!

Have you seen our WRs try to catch an uncontested pass?

 

[madgoat33]

They call two soft PI calls on the bears and let washington mug pettis in the EZ. Love it

 

[HawksBeerFan]

They call two soft PI calls on the bears and let washington mug pettis in the EZ. Love it

Oh man I forgot about those awful calls.

If that's going to be the standard, then surely the Pettis one needs to be called.

Ridiculous.

 

[Fortyfives]

Three separate drives Chicago had first and goal but couldn’t score. Brutal.

They have zero play makers.

 

[Idionym]

What did George Halas do to make his franchise cursed this much.

 

[TLEH]

Most awful game to watch of all time. Literally every team I like sucks. Bears awful and terrible ownership. Cubs awful and terrible ownership. Blackhawks terrible on purpose. Bulls maybe decent.

 

[kuzy]

Coming up less than a foot short in the game-winning drive (in what was arguably not even a catch) is a proper Chicago Bears ending to this game. Right on brand

 

[madgoat33]

Oh man I forgot about those awful calls.

If that's going to be the standard, then surely the Pettis one needs to be called.

Ridiculous.

Dont forget about the play last week where they let harrison smith grab the reveiver's arms in the endzone and also didnt call PI.

 

[Fortyfives]

This Amazon post game is trash

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Theyre a team in a rebuild and have shown the past 2 weeks that they have the potential to be good if the develop and add some pieces. No guarantee its going to happen, but i'm cautiously optimistic.

I’m not talking about just the last two weeks, or even last two years.

 

[Pez68]

They have zero play makers.

This is exactly it.

 

[TLEH]

First draft class doesn't look too great either maybe don't take a 25 year old receiver in the 3rd round.

 

[HeisenBaez]

The silver lining guys is this:

Bears will have a top 5 pick.
Bears will around $120ish million to play with in Free Agency.

The Bears should and will not be this bad in 2023. Despite the inconsistencies, Fields will show enough by the end of the year to give Bears fans hope for 2023 and beyond.

But watching Bears and the Blackhawks will make the winter months....LONG.

 

[Ben Grimm]

The Bears are averaging 15.5 PPG which is 29th in the NFL. Except for Lance and Mayfield, idk if anyone else has a worse QBR than Fields.

 

[Pez68]

Any fancy stats for quarterbacks that adjusts their ratings for the "dogshitedness" of their receivers? I have to think that would be worth 10-20 points in Fields' case. Between the offensive line and his receivers, he has no f***ing chance to succeed.

 

[madgoat33]

Line bad receiver bad, fields also bad. Tons of bad throws and missed reads covered up by his athleticism. This has been bad qb play, period. He's shown some good things though, so I'm still choosing optimism, but he deserves plenty of blame too.

 

[hawksrule]

Any fancy stats for quarterbacks that adjusts their ratings for the "dogshitedness" of their receivers? I have to think that would be worth 10-20 points in Fields' case. Between the offensive line and his receivers, he has no f***ing chance to succeed.

I partially agree. His line and receivers are ass. At the same time, he still has to execute, eg overthrowing a 5-yard pass to a wide open receiver in the end zone. Overall, he’s at least showing glimpses, which is an improvement.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Any fancy stats for quarterbacks that adjusts their ratings for the "dogshitedness" of their receivers? I have to think that would be worth 10-20 points in Fields' case. Between the offensive line and his receivers, he has no f***ing chance to succeed.

Do OL and WR's get a rating adjustment for shitty play from QB? Fields is as much a problem as the WR's or OL in the struggles of this offense

11 games left for Fields to show something more than the occasional flash (A drive or two a game) or else the Bears need to move on

 

[Pez68]

Do OL and WR's get a rating adjustment for shitty play from QB? Fields is as much a problem as the WR's or OL in the struggles of this offense

11 games left for Fields to show something more than the occasional flash (A drive or two a game) or else the Bears need to move on

No, he's not "as much a problem" as they are. He's third on that list. Maybe fourth if you want to account for the playcalling. Which, as all of the announcers pointed out last night, isn't doing him any favors at all.

I'd wager not a single lineman or receiver on this team cracks the starting lineup on the contenders. Maybe Mooney as a #4.

He isn't going to last 11 games, at this rate.

 

[plasmonresonance]

Do OL and WR's get a rating adjustment for shitty play from QB? Fields is as much a problem as the WR's or OL in the struggles of this offense...

I wouldn't say Fields is as much a problem as WR or OL but he is part of the problem. You see stats about the number of sacks, number of pressures and time until QB releases the football but the most telling stat, which I have yet to see, would be 'time until pressure' because I think in a lot of the pass plays Fields simply holds the ball too long (>3 sec) allowing time for a pressure or a sack.

The WRs are far and away the biggest problem in the passing attack. They rarely get separation and when they do get thrown the ball, they don't catch it. Bring back Horsted (j/k) but he could at least catch everything thrown to him.

 

[southsideIrish]

Unfortunately having a high draft pick or picks and gobs of money to spend is no guarantee of future success for this team. It's been 37 years since the vaunted 85 team....and how many playoff wins in that span?

The Bears and pretty much all Chicago sports are about as low as I can remember. Until someone actually does something as in real results I just don't get excited anymore.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Unfortunately having a high draft pick or picks and gobs of money to spend is no guarantee of future success for this team. It's been 37 years since the vaunted 85 team....and how many playoff wins in that span?

The Bears and pretty much all Chicago sports are about as low as I can remember. Until someone actually does something as in real results I just don't get excited anymore.

6 Wins

Div vs Eagles (1988)
WC vs Saints (1990)
WC vs Vikes (1994)
Div vs Seahawks (2006)
NFC Champ vs Saints (2006)
Div vs Seahawks (2010)

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Unfortunately having a high draft pick or picks and gobs of money to spend is no guarantee of future success for this team. It's been 37 years since the vaunted 85 team....and how many playoff wins in that span?

The Bears and pretty much all Chicago sports are about as low as I can remember. Until someone actually does something as in real results I just don't get excited anymore.

Yeah, I can't remember a time in which at least one team wasn't worth watching. The Bulls are the best we've got and they're a bubble team.

The other 4 just suck.

 

[Illinihockey]

Do OL and WR's get a rating adjustment for shitty play from QB? Fields is as much a problem as the WR's or OL in the struggles of this offense

11 games left for Fields to show something more than the occasional flash (A drive or two a game) or else the Bears need to move on

He had 278 yards of offense and that’s with multiple drops including 2 for touchdowns. Like he needs to improve but come on

Also loved running behind our two worst lineman with the guy that isn’t our short yardage back on 4th and goal from the 1

 

[southsideIrish]

Fields being quoted as "tired of Bears being almost there". Almost where? Barely losing to dumpster fire Washington to drop to 2-4, being unable to score from a few inches away three times....that's not almost there that's still a long way from almost there.