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TLEH

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2024 NFL Draft


Round 1, pick No. 1: Caleb Williams, quarterback, USC

Round 1, pick No. 9: Rome Odunze, wide receiver, Washington

Round 3, pick No. 75: Kiran Amegadjie, offensive tackle, Yale

Round 5, pick No. 122: Tory Taylor, punter, Iowa

Round 5, pick No. 144: Austin Booker, defensive end, Kansas


2023 NFL Draft


Round 1, pick No. 10: Darnell Wright, offensive tackle, Tennesee

Round 2, pick No. 53: Gervon Dexter, defensive tackle, Florida

Round 2, pick. No. 56: Tyrique Stevenson, defensive back, Miami

Round 3, pick No. 64: Zacch Pickens, defensive tackle, Georgia

Round 4, pick No. 115: Roschon Johnson, running back, Texas

Round 4, pick No. 133: Tyler Scott, wide receiver, Cincinnati

Round 5, pick No. 148: Noah Sewell, linebacker, Oregon

Round 5, pick No. 165: Terrell Smith, defensive back, Minnesota

Round 7, pick No. 218: Travis Bell, defensive tackle, Kennesaw State

Round 7, pick No. 258: Kendall Williamson, safety, Stanford


2022 NFL Draft


Round 2, pick No. 39: Kyler Gordon, defensive back, Washington

Round 2, pick, No. 48: Jaquan Brisker, safety, Penn State

Round 3, pick No. 71: Velus Jones Jr., wide receiver, Tennessee

Round 5, pick No. 168: Braxton Jones, offensive tackle, Southern Utah

Round 5, pick No. 174: Dominique Robinson, defensive end, Miami (Ohio)

Round 6, pick No. 186: Zachary Thomas, offensive lineman, San Diego State

Round 6, pick No. 203: Trestan Ebner, running back, Baylor

Round 6, pick No. 207: Doug Kramer, offensive lineman, Illinois

Round 7, pick No. 227: Ja'Tyre Carter, offensive lineman, Southern

Round 7, pick No. 254: Elijah Hicks, safety, California

Round 7, pick No. 255: Trenton Gill, punter, North Carolina State
 

GIADF

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I had no idea Gill was a pick from the 2022 draft, even if just a 7th rounder.

He's like the worst punter I've ever seen play on an NFL team.

Just looked at his stats and he's dead last in yards per punt amongst anyone and everyone that has kicked a punt this year. His net is terrible as well.
 
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No Fun Shogun

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I get that we got the first overall due to a shrewd trade by Poles, but this massive step back of a season is entirely on him.

A smart team in this circumstance would fire their GM, hire a new GM with full authority over the coaching search, hire a head coach of their choice, and let said new head coach hire their staff to their heart's content, all before the 2025 Draft.

But we all know what'll actually happen. Lame duck Poles will hire a new coach hamstrung by an inane need to keep a coordinator or positional coach or two, things will be stuck in mediocrity for another year or two, Poles will get fired, the brass will hire a new GM but with the implicit caveat that Poles' coach will be needlessly retained for another year or two, and after all of that the new GM will finally make a head coaching hire of their own choice when already on somewhat of a hot seat, all the while providing no cohesive strategy or protection to develop Williams.
 

Crow

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So how does the reporting for being eligible work?

Does the coach do it? Does the player?

I guess neither if you are the bears but how is it supposed to work?
 

Giovi

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So how does the reporting for being eligible work?

Does the coach do it? Does the player?

I guess neither if you are the bears but how is it supposed to work?
The player reports himself as eligible to one of the officials. They showed a replay of Kramer coming in, and he clearly didn't report himself.
 
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Romang67

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I'm just over it all. I don't even want to listen to Hoge and Jahns talk about this team.
Take: I don't think Hoge has anywhere near as good of a reporter this year. I think all the CHGO stuff and all his side projects like the Kmet podcast has made him turn into a bit of a loud mouth.
 
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Clownish

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So how does the reporting for being eligible work?

Does the coach do it? Does the player?

I guess neither if you are the bears but how is it supposed to work?
I've seen it where the guy coming in rubs his stomach, of all things, to signal to the referee that he is an eligible receiver. That may have changed and now they go up to the ref, but that used to be the universal signal. Back then, we also tied onions on our belts and nickels were called bees. "Gimme 5 bees for a quarter!" you'd say.
 

Reality Check

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As a Lions fan, Poles gives me that Bob Quinn vibe. Just sayin'

I also still want to crap on the Bears for taking Odunze. But I don't think any of the OL taken after him in the first have stood out. Williams holding the ball for as long as he does isn't helping either.
 

TLEH

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Take: I don't think Hoge has anywhere near as good of a reporter this year. I think all the CHGO stuff and all his side projects like the Kmet podcast has made him turn into a bit of a loud mouth.
Yeah he’s turned into a bit of a hot air guy. I still love them both but Jahns definitely is more professional and level headed.
 

Backyard Hockey

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Fun stat. Since the Bears fired their OC, the offense has averaged 18 points. Since they fired the HC, they’ve given up 34 points on average

Firing them was the right thing to do but the team is just a disaster
 

No Fun Shogun

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Since we canned Lovie (for good reason, I might add), we've had one winning season, three .500 seasons, and no playoff wins. It's almost like Georgie-boy doesn't know what the **** he's doing.
 
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Behn Wilson

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Fun stat. Since the Bears fired their OC, the offense has averaged 18 points. Since they fired the HC, they’ve given up 34 points on average

Firing them was the right thing to do but the team is just a disaster
Hindsight they should have made someone from the defense head coach and let Brown concentrate on Caleb and the offence and make calls from the booth
 

Romang67

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I know ragging on Ryan Poles is all the rage right now, cause the Bears can't really fire Ryan Pace again, but the fact that he was allowed to trade 2 first round picks, a 2nd round pick, a 3rd round pick, a 4th round pick, a 5th round pick, and a 6th round pick, to pick up a QB who was falling in the draft, a tackle with injury concerns, and a 5th round pick, when he was basically a lame duck GM was some staggering incompetence by the ownership. He basically traded a draft class to trade up for Fields and Jenkins, who in hindsight were being skipped over by teams for legitimate reasons.

Of course, the other teams didn't capitalize on this, because the other teams were the Panthers and Giants, but still.
 
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Pez68

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The lack of play action and having Williams throw on the move under both Waldron and Brown this season is really weird. You have one of very few QBs in the league who can throw the ball while in full sprint in any direction, and you just decide to have zero plays where you take advantage of that?
Nothing strikes me as weird anymore. This organization has no idea how to hire coaches, so I expect failure.
 

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