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Romang67 said:
Two turnovers happened on one play. Fumble by the Titans, Bengals picked it up, defender dropped the ball on the 1 yard line for a touchback.

Truly top notch bad football.
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J Taylor, RB for Indy, did the same stupid thing as the Cincy defender. Taylor dropped the ball just before crossing the goal line; would have been a 40+yd run for TD. It's crazy how often pro players are so careless with the football..
 
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Campbell with one of the dumber decisions you'll ever see. Not only did it kill the game, but it established a zero confidence in his D. Man, Buffalo is fun to watch. I wonder if I'll ever see the Bears have a prolific offense in my lifetime?
 
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Buffalo and Detroit both have struggles on D with injuries. GB playing very well. Chiefs are lucky and Phi is peaking

This SB run is going to come down to who is healthiest
 
Might be the first game all season I'm really not even looking forward to. I'll watch because it's Monday evening and I don't exactly have anything else going on.

If the Bears aren’t competitive then Brown can probably say goodbye to any chance at the HC gig for next year.

Vikings need a dub to have a shot at the division and could tie Detroit in the standings (not sure who has tiebreaker), so I could see this being a complete blowout.
 
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Lions seems to have lost McNeill for the season. I think that's it for them. Ben Johnson and the offense is great, but that defense is just too hurt at this point.
 
GIADF said:
Might be the first game all season I'm really not even looking forward to. I'll watch because it's Monday evening and I don't exactly have anything else going on.

If the Bears aren’t competitive then Brown can probably say goodbye to any chance at the HC gig for next year.

Vikings need a dub to have a shot at the division and could tie Detroit in the standings (not sure who has tiebreaker), so I could see this being a complete blowout.
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Anything but a dominant Vikings victory today would be very surprising. It'll be interesting to see what Flores does to counter the fact that his gameplan didn't work well last game against the Bears. But even if the Bears offense operates at its max capacity, the defense is bad and injured and is going up against an offense that just chews teams up when they can't put pressure on the QB.

And maybe I'm being negative, but I don't think the three headed beast of Pickens-Cowart-Williams will put much pressure on Darnold.
 
Romang67 said:
Anything but a dominant Vikings victory today would be very surprising. It'll be interesting to see what Flores does to counter the fact that his gameplan didn't work well last game against the Bears. But even if the Bears offense operates at its max capacity, the defense is bad and injured and is going up against an offense that just chews teams up when they can't put pressure on the QB.

And maybe I'm being negative, but I don't think the three headed beast of Pickens-Cowart-Williams will put much pressure on Darnold.
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It's hard to see any scenario in which the Vikings don't win, and big at that.

So naturally the Bears will probably win 23-10.
 
Seems like years ago the Bears had Herbert, Roschon, Velus, Wheeler and Swift (healthy) at RB. Now down to gimpy Swift, D Evans and Homer. Throw in a brand new rookie LT in Kiran and if the Bears score 10 pts it'll be a miracle. Vikings 31-6.
 
plasmonresonance said:
Seems like years ago the Bears had Herbert, Roschon, Velus, Wheeler and Swift (healthy) at RB. Now down to gimpy Swift, D Evans and Homer. Throw in a brand new rookie LT in Kiran and if the Bears score 10 pts it'll be a miracle. Vikings 31-6.
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Coming back to the gameplan, last Vikings game Brown abandoned the run pretty early and essentially substituted it for screens in motion. I think that's straight up a better play against the Vikings D if Swift is the primary back. Swift wants to run to the outside, but the Vikings linebackers are too fast and too aware to let him run to the outside, rendering him for all intents and purposes useless (which isn't great for an $8M RB, but whatever). The motion screens against a blitzing defense nullifies that. It often leads to as many blockers as defenders, and the ball moves too quickly for the backers to flow with the ball.

Flores hasn't really shown that he's willing to stop blitzing in the past, and even if he does I don't think the Vikings D will play man defense, so the opportunities should still be there to attack open space against zone, and for those screens. Hot take, but I think Flores is a bit overrated as a defensive play caller, mostly because he stubbornly sticks with his aggressive defensive play call even when they don't really work. That doesn't mean he's not good, just that I don't think he's clearly the best DC in the league.

I think the Bears will score at least 2 TDs. I also think Williams will throw his first interception since London, because this defense has openings but will force him to put the ball aggressively into tight windows. And the Vikings will score like 30+ points because the "top 5 defense in the league" can't stop a nosebleed now that they've lost a couple of guys to injury.
 
Is there any reason why there are two MNF games tonight?

(insert so others don't have to watch Bears joke here)
 
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