OT: Bears & NFL Talk 102

[Romang67]

I would like to think the “pass game coordinator” would at least have some sort of a pulse to what kind of passing plays the QB would want involved….

Feel like if the passing game is struggling you would interact with the OC and the passing game coordinator. Not talk to Flus about not throwing interceptions (because Rome drops the ball in Indy)

Yeah, that's what I'm getting at with Brown's role being nominal. I think Waldron was the de facto pass game coordinator, and he sometimes discussed things with Brown. I doubt that Brown actually had much say in how the offensive scheme worked.

Agreed that I think there would have been much more fruitful to talk to Brown than to hear Eberflus stress the importance of never turning the ball over, while Goff is over in Detroit turning the ball over 5 times in a win. I just don't think it's as uncommon as people might think.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

here's a concept, fire poles for this shit show

 

[Backyard Hockey]

Poles and Flus must go. This is Dunder Miffkin level incompetence

 

[Romang67]

I've never liked the "take care of the ball" mantra for young QBs. Of course you want to take care of the ball. What you also want to do is push the ball down field. Love spent all of last season throwing hero balls down the field off his back foot, and they almost made the NFCCG in a rebuild year thanks to his heroics.

There is a difference between throwing the ball right at linebackers or into double coverage every game, like Winston, and underthrowing a deep ball that gets picked off. Underthrown deep balls can be picked off, get caught, or lead to a PI. Williams is clearly focusing on not having the deep balls be picked off, and so the vast majority of them are overthrown, which will always result in an incomplete pass.

 

[Pez68]

Chicago literally has a monopoly on the worst run organizations in sports.

 

[ClydeLee]

If he didn't talk to the QB, can he be interviewed and asked what he did? Was he a glorified WR title coach then?

 

[Kurtosis]

Chicago literally has a monopoly on the worst run organizations in sports.

Shit show across the board bud. It’s almost like they’re trying to one up each other at this point with their ineptitude.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Chicago literally has a monopoly on the worst run organizations in sports.

At least the Bears are on tv, Hawks are telling fans to grab the antenna in 2024

 

[Panzerspitze]

ex-Cheesehead James Jones is not a fan of THE Caleb

 

[Panzerspitze]

Hadn't heard of Bill Zimmerman/Danny Parkins until yesterday. Searching for their podcast, coincidentally turned up how basically nothing has changed with this team more than a year later. In fact, penalty-wise they have regressed from 2022:

Parkins: What does Matt Eberflus even do?

Danny Parkins joins the Bears Banter Podcast, and he didn’t like what he saw from the coaching staff.

www.windycitygridiron.com

While Danny knows that the offensive and defensive lines didn’t get it done, he calls Chase Claypool already a “sunk cost” and noted some other struggles as well, he’s totally down on this coaching staff. He’s down on Luke Getsy. He’s down on Alan Williams. But most importantly, he’s down on Matt Eberflus.

“What does Eberflus even do?” Parkins wondered.

“I don’t understand what Matt Eberflus’ edge for this team is,” he continued. “Last year they were one of the least penalized teams in football, okay. They seemed to not quit during a season where they went 3-14, okay. But they went 3-14, they certainly didn’t overachieve... but they were 30th or worse in every defensive category that matters... They made all these investments in the defense, but like, what does he do? Because I certainly don’t know.”

 

[ndgt10]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1856758114046886394

I'm not sure we see Brisker play again this season.

Too many concussions.. He probably never plays again.

 

[TLEH]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1856779749860753880

 

[Panzerspitze]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1856779749860753880

Mooney for Bears OC/QB coach/Passing game coordinator/WR coach, 2030?

 

[plasmonresonance]

Yeah, that's what I'm getting at with Brown's role being nominal. I think Waldron was the de facto pass game coordinator, and he sometimes discussed things with Brown. I doubt that Brown actually had much say in how the offensive scheme worked.

Agreed that I think there would have been much more fruitful to talk to Brown than to hear Eberflus stress the importance of never turning the ball over, while Goff is over in Detroit turning the ball over 5 times in a win. I just don't think it's as uncommon as people might think.

I think it's imperative Caleb talk with Flus. He needs to make sure he's reading the opponent's defensive coverages accurately. Knowing the route trees for a specific play doesn't help much if he's reading the defenses slowly or incorrectly. The passing game cordination is pre-set by the Bears and surely known by Caleb. But the defenses Caleb sees are out of his control and may be (or are likely) different every week. Post-game, Flus needs to make sure he and Caleb are in agreement with where the best read option for a particular defensive look may have presented itself.