OT: Bears & NFL Talk 101

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GIADF

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With the trade deadline fast approaching and with at least a couple teams already resigned to be sellers (Cleveland and Vegas), and with Poles unafraid to make deadline deals - here's a hypothetical - If Poles has the opportunity to acquire a difference making d-lineman or a difference making o-lineman - which would you do?

For me - as much as acquiring a Maxx Crosby or Miles Garrett would take the Bears defense to the next level - I think the o-line is the bigger need ... eh, I think I'd still pull the trigger on Garrett or Crosby.

It would be temping as hell, especially if you can sign either Crosby or Garret to an extension. If the main piece was the Carolina 2nd rounder I think I'd do it. Then you have the no brainer decision to use our 2025 1st rounder on the offensive line.

My only concern moving forward for this season is can the offensive line be good enough to give Caleb enough time to win a playoff game. I'm not sure we are there yet, but I also just don't see any offensive lineman worth trading for being available in the middle of the season.
 

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If he can acquire a difference making O-lineman, he should do that, no doubt. I don't think there is one out there for sale. I saw something about Teller out of the Browns, but I think that's regular Twitter nonsense. Having a good O-line is just too valuable to sell off a good player on that line and risk blowing it up.

The D-line, I don't really see them investing both trade value and the necessary cap space in an elite edge unless we know beyond the shadow of a doubt that Williams is that dude. I'm one of the biggest believers in Williams out there, but I don't know if he will take 10 weeks, or one full season, or more to get to the point where it's time to load up to contend.

I could see them investing a lower pick (late day 3) in a space eater over DT Williams or Cowart, since the D gets LEAKY (especially on runs) as soon as the 1st unit takes a break. I, unfortunately, think Zacch Pickens might be trending for bust territory. He didn't look good in preseason in year two, and then got injured. And he was never really good in the run game in college. Luckily, space eaters and runs defending DTs are cheap.

Personally, I'm hoping they do little more than pick up some D-line depth before the deadline. Keep the 1st rounder and both 2nd rounders, save the cap space, throw an overpay on Trey Smith after the season, and go 2x O-line and 1x edge in some order the first three picks in the draft.
Yeah, no one is trading a good offensive lineman for a mid round pick. Chicago will have three picks in the top 45, and I fully expect to use two of them on offensive lineman.
 

EbonyRaptor

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If he can acquire a difference making O-lineman, he should do that, no doubt. I don't think there is one out there for sale. I saw something about Teller out of the Browns, but I think that's regular Twitter nonsense. Having a good O-line is just too valuable to sell off a good player on that line and risk blowing it up.

The D-line, I don't really see them investing both trade value and the necessary cap space in an elite edge unless we know beyond the shadow of a doubt that Williams is that dude. I'm one of the biggest believers in Williams out there, but I don't know if he will take 10 weeks, or one full season, or more to get to the point where it's time to load up to contend.

I could see them investing a lower pick (late day 3) in a space eater over DT Williams or Cowart, since the D gets LEAKY (especially on runs) as soon as the 1st unit takes a break. I, unfortunately, think Zacch Pickens might be trending for bust territory. He didn't look good in preseason in year two, and then got injured. And he was never really good in the run game in college. Luckily, space eaters and runs defending DTs are cheap.

Personally, I'm hoping they do little more than pick up some D-line depth before the deadline. Keep the 1st rounder and both 2nd rounders, save the cap space, throw an overpay on Trey Smith after the season, and go 2x O-line and 1x edge in some order the first three picks in the draft.

Yeah - I know ... but the thought (fantasy) of Miles Garrett lining up at right DE gives me visions :nod:
 

GIADF

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Yeah - I know ... but the thought (fantasy) of Miles Garrett lining up at right DE gives me visions :nod:

He's still under contract for two more years with no guaranteed money, I believe. I don't have a clue what the cost would realistically be but if it doesn't start with our first round pick, I'd be all over it.
 

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With the trade deadline fast approaching and with at least a couple teams already resigned to be sellers (Cleveland and Vegas), and with Poles unafraid to make deadline deals - here's a hypothetical - If Poles has the opportunity to acquire a difference making d-lineman or a difference making o-lineman - which would you do?

For me - as much as acquiring a Maxx Crosby or Miles Garrett would take the Bears defense to the next level - I think the o-line is the bigger need ... eh, I think I'd still pull the trigger on Garrett or Crosby.

I would honestly be shocked if Detroit doesn't make a run at one of those guys, especially with the Hutchinson injury. They're in win now mode so they can easily afford the picks. If I'm the Bears, I don't give up assets right now. They aren't a player or two away from a championship. They need to keep stockpiling draft picks in any way they can. Cunningham may get poached, Pittsburgh may still play Fields later on and teams who might need RB help towards the deadline might call the Bears about Herbert. Bears are more or less a year away in my opinion.
 

GIADF

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So should Bears fans be rooting for Minnesota today so we can at least draw even with Detroit in the standings?


Wow fake punt for Detroit from your own 30 and not even close. Terrible idea when you need 7 yards.
 

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Packers beat the Texans on last second FG. Lions beat the Vikings on FG and only 15 seconds left.

Lions officially in 1st place. Bears officially in last cuz of bye week at 4-2.... LOL this division man.
 
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