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HeisenBaez said:
With the deadline fast approaching (November 5), do the Bears consider trading Teven Jenkins?
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I can't imagine he would fetch anything worth trading for between not having a contract for next year and how many games he's missed in his career.

Even if Murray steals his roster spot, I'd rather keep Teven as depth.
 
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bwanajamba said:
Brisker apparently didn't travel with the team to London due to concussion sypmtoms. Unclear if they just want to give him a couple of days before a long flight or if he's out for the game but hopefully they don't risk it if there's any doubt
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I was but surprised when he popped right up after that big hit which caused the fumble. Concussion symptoms must have risen post game, possibly overnight. Flus made no mention of Brisker in his Monday presser, only mentioning Teven's ankle.
 
HeisenBaez said:
There are two reasons to move him:

1. He is a pending FA. Bears don't seem interesting in locking him up long term.

2. He can't stay healthy.

I think they should consider it.
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I just don't see any team offering a pick that outweighs the value of guard depth. Also, I think he's has the highest potential play of any guard they have. I'm guessing he sits in London, then there is the bye, and then hopefully he comes back and plays well again after that.

He's been really disappointing this year though. I would have loved for them to not have to find an entire new interior on the O-line next season. But Shelton isn't getting it done, Davis is the most cut-man-walking in the league, and Jenkins not only showed he can't go a season without getting injured, but also all of a sudden sucks in his contract year.
 
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Romang67 said:
I just don't see any team offering a pick that outweighs the value of guard depth. Also, I think he's has the highest potential play of any guard they have. I'm guessing he sits in London, then there is the bye, and then hopefully he comes back and plays well again after that.

He's been really disappointing this year though. I would have loved for them to not have to find an entire new interior on the O-line next season. But Shelton isn't getting it done, Davis is the most cut-man-walking in the league, and Jenkins not only showed he can't go a season without getting injured, but also all of a sudden sucks in his contract year.
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Fair enough.
 
Unlike the previous couple of years, I don't see either an obvious candidate for trading away, nor do I see an obvious position that should and can be upgraded.

Yes, the Bears desperately need a better O-lineman (or 3-4). But no one is trading a quality O-lineman in the middle of the season. They could use an upgrade over Walker, but they aren't contenders, so what's the point of wasting draft picks on that this season?

I think this trade deadline will be quiet for the first time under Poles.
 
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Romang67 said:
Unlike the previous couple of years, I don't see either an obvious candidate for trading away, nor do I see an obvious position that should and can be upgraded.

Yes, the Bears desperately need a better O-lineman (or 3-4). But no one is trading a quality O-lineman in the middle of the season. They could use an upgrade over Walker, but they aren't contenders, so what's the point of wasting draft picks on that this season?

I think this trade deadline will be quiet for the first time under Poles.
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Has a decent offensive lineman ever been available at the TDL? I can't imagine so, but that's the only position I'd even consider trading for.
 
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GIADF said:
Has a decent offensive lineman ever been available at the TDL? I can't imagine so, but that's the only position I'd even consider trading for.
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Only way a team would trade a good offensive lineman in season would probably be if they were holding out or were questionable to have enough left in them to last an extension. So yeah, can't see it happening.
 
Not loving the tackle/edge matchup against the Bengals. I think we'll see more of Braxton Jones on skates against Travon Walker (who doesn't have a wide variety of moves, but he does have the bullrush), and Wright is up against one of the better edges in the league in Hines-Allen.
 
Romang67 said:
Not loving the tackle/edge matchup against the Bengals. I think we'll see more of Braxton Jones on skates against Travon Walker (who doesn't have a wide variety of moves, but he does have the bullrush), and Wright is up against one of the better edges in the league in Hines-Allen.
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The other cat team.
 
TLEH said:
The other cat team.
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No, we just played the Panthers.:p:

Another correction on my post, on closer inspection I think Walker is lined up against the RT, not the LT. I actually think that matchup is much better for the Bears. Hines-Allen is the better edge, but I'm not sure he has the pure power that Walker does. Meanwhile, Wright is better equipped to handle pure power, on account of outweighing him by like 70lbs.
 
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Romang67 said:
No, we just played the Panthers.:p:

Another correction on my post, on closer inspection I think Walker is lined up against the RT, not the LT. I actually think that matchup is much better for the Bears. Hines-Allen is the better edge, but I'm not sure he has the pure power that Walker does. Meanwhile, Wright is better equipped to handle pure power, on account of outweighing him by like 70lbs.
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Words out that you can bull like 3 of our guys.
 
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bwanajamba said:
Per PFF (via the Athletic), Caleb against the blitz in the last two weeks: 17/19 for 200 yards and 2 TDs. Bad defenses? Yes, but that's awesome from a rookie who was getting smoked frequently in his first couple of games
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He's an absolute dude. We are lucky to have him.
 
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Patriots apparently starting Maye this weekend. Even if he is better than Brissett, that team has no weapons and no offensive line and no reason not to be tanking to try and fix that. And they're playing Houston of all teams with two lethal edge rushers. Really hope they aren't setting the kid up to fail
 
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Patriots apparently starting Maye this weekend. Even if he is better than Brissett, that team has no weapons and no offensive line and no reason not to be tanking to try and fix that. And they're playing Houston of all teams with two lethal edge rushers. Really hope they aren't setting the kid up to fail
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Brissett's awful at this point and its clearly an issue of team

The Pats could have easily been 3-2 with better QB play

This idea you dont play a kid you drafted #3 overall because of offensive line is dumb. There is no guarantee your OL is better in year 2, so should he sit then as well?

After the dismal play of Brissett vs Dolphins there really is no reason to continue with him
 
Blackhawkswincup said:
Brissett's awful at this point and its clearly an issue of team

The Pats could have easily been 3-2 with better QB play

This idea you dont play a kid you drafted #3 overall because of offensive line is dumb. There is no guarantee your OL is better in year 2, so should he sit then as well?

After the dismal play of Brissett vs Dolphins there really is no reason to continue with him
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I'd feel much more comfortable throwing a young QB behind a bad offensive line when they've been learning an NFL offense and taking reps for an extra year. Maye is almost a year younger than Caleb and it was generally agreed by evaluators that he had a lot to fix with his fundamentals before he was NFL ready.

The reason to continue with Brissett is that he's a stopgap who lets you slow roll your young QB instead of getting him slaughtered on an awful team with no offensive help. It doesn't really mean shit if the Patriots could be 3-2 or if they could have beaten the Dolphins with their 3rd string QB. Organizationally that's the last thing they want to be honest, they need talent badly.
 
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