Barzal or Dobson? Who would you rather see traded?

[MattMartin]

Yes, we need to rid the younger players, we have more than enough of those.

 

[Lame Lambert]

Both of them. Two extremely flawed players that get/will get paid like complete ones.

 

[Rehabguy]

Barzal, if you want to confirm your own stupidity as a hockey fan . Seriously, though if I was forced to choose of course it would have to be Dobson. If this kid gets his head screwed on straight he could be an incredible offensive minded defenseman but his mental lapses and soft play tell me he'd be the one I choose.

 

[impaaaaaact]

Why doesn’t Barzal do the Islanders a favor and play hockey where other players can actually play him?

Moving to another team ain’t going to magically make Barzal better or better suited. It’s him that has to change his game and he just will not do so.

So, best pass the problem onto someone else.

***Horvat 13 games without a goal***
Throttle: Barzal is soft! I hate him!

***Brock Nelson 17 games without a goal***
Throttle: All Barzal does is skate in circles! He is the root of all of our problems!

***Kyle Palmieri 1 goal in 12 games***
Throttle: Barzal doesn't score! He will keep us in the dark ages!

***Barzal +11 over last 6 games, backed up by a league leading 23% relative expected goal% over the entire season***
Throttle: Barzal has no value and never will! He's declining and old!

 

[Green]

I think we should send them as a package but only to Toronto for Pacioretty or to the Rangers for Kreider, maybe I'd send them to Nashville for Stamkos if we throw in Eiserman as well

But for real we need a complete rebuild and that includes trading everyone over the age of 23, or we need to stick with this fantasy that this team has a chance at doing anything over the next few years and Barzal is the last guy I'd trade, personally I am with option 1.

 

[BHawk21]

To Chicago- Pettersson
To NYI- Nazar ++
To Vancouver- Barzal

Barzal waives to go home. Pettersson waives for swedish head location and upswing of rebuild. NYI kickstarts a retool.

 

[doublechili]

To Chicago- Pettersson
To NYI- Nazar ++
To Vancouver- Barzal

Barzal waives to go home. Pettersson waives for swedish head location and upswing of rebuild. NYI kickstarts a retool.

No offense, but the Isles big problem is lack of elite talent. Trading Barzal and ending up with a young 2C plus parts is the last thing we need. If VC is willing to take Barzal for Pettersson, we'll just do a straight up trade with them and take Pettersson, thank you very much.

 

[BHawk21]

No offense, but the Isles big problem is lack of elite talent. Trading Barzal and ending up with a young 2C plus parts is the last thing we need. If VC is willing to take Barzal for Pettersson, we'll just do a straight up trade with them and take Pettersson, thank you very much.

No offense, but I cannot see Pettersson waiving his NMC to go to the Islanders at this point in time. I just figured at some point the Islanders will have to try to get young talent.

 

[doublechili]

No offense, but I cannot see Pettersson waiving his NMC to go to the Islanders at this point in time. I just figured at some point the Islanders will have to try to get young talent.

Yeah, not sure who Pettersson would or wouldn't waive for, but he was apparently tight with Horvat FWIW. If the Isles go for a retool they could trade Nelson, Palmieri, etc. for picks/prospects and keep the still pretty young Barzal. If they go for a full rebuild and trade Barzal, I'd rather see them get one big piece back rather than a bag of stuff.

 

[impaaaaaact]

No offense, but I cannot see Pettersson waiving his NMC to go to the Islanders at this point in time. I just figured at some point the Islanders will have to try to get young talent.

nazar + what? Korchinski?

 

[Throttle]

***Horvat 13 games without a goal***
Throttle: Barzal is soft! I hate him!

***Brock Nelson 17 games without a goal***
Throttle: All Barzal does is skate in circles! He is the root of all of our problems!

***Kyle Palmieri 1 goal in 12 games***
Throttle: Barzal doesn't score! He will keep us in the dark ages!

***Barzal +11 over last 6 games, backed up by a league leading 23% relative expected goal% over the entire season***
Throttle: Barzal has no value and never will! He's declining and old!

Yawn, I’m glad you feel so compelled to dedicate a post. Hand claps to you.

 

[impaaaaaact]

Yawn, I’m glad you feel so compelled to dedicate a post. Hand claps to you.

you’ve dedicated maybe 500 to Barzal yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnn lmao all objectivity has been lost

 

[Throttle]

you’ve dedicated maybe 500 to Barzal yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnn lmao all objectivity has been lost

I feel honored you were so inclined to dedicate a post on that. Truly a special moment.

And on the $9M figure skater, isles are doing great things with him, no doubt. When’s he getting an ‘A’ on his chest as part of the leadership? Usually, a teams highest paid players have a letter. Hmm…4 coaches so far and he’s got maybe spot duty in that department. Kinda tells you something.

 

[8EJS9]

No offense, but I cannot see Pettersson waiving his NMC to go to the Islanders at this point in time. I just figured at some point the Islanders will have to try to get young talent.

So you think he’s going to waive for Chicago but not come to NY to reunite with Horvat? Interesting

I think we should send them as a package but only to Toronto for Pacioretty or to the Rangers for Kreider, maybe I'd send them to Nashville for Stamkos if we throw in Eiserman as well

But for real we need a complete rebuild and that includes trading everyone over the age of 23, or we need to stick with this fantasy that this team has a chance at doing anything over the next few years and Barzal is the last guy I'd trade, personally I am with option 1.

Please don’t ever be the isles gm. Trading Eiserman for 35+ year olds is how you run a franchise into the ground

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

I think we should send them as a package but only to Toronto for Pacioretty or to the Rangers for Kreider, maybe I'd send them to Nashville for Stamkos if we throw in Eiserman as well

Why do we want Kreider? Who else do we get? Ditto with Patches.

 

[jellybeans]

Habs would love to take Hodson off your hands what would it take.

 

[Sparksrus3]

Why do we want Kreider? Who else do we get? Ditto with Patches.

I wanted Kreider except I wanted him 15 years ago in the draft and when we traded up it had to be to take him not FN DeHaan. OYE !!!!!!! LGI

 

[impaaaaaact]

Habs would love to take Hodson off your hands what would it take.

if it's futures, a whole lot. Would start with Reinbacher + Roy and probably would also include the lower of your 1st rounders. Not sure if there is a hockey trade that makes sense

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

I wanted Kreider except I wanted him 15 years ago in the draft and when we traded up it had to be to take him not FN DeHaan. OYE !!!!!!! LGI

Why do we want him now?

 

[Sparksrus3]

Why do we want him now?

I certainly do not

 

[BHawk21]

So you think he’s going to waive for Chicago but not come to NY to reunite with Horvat? Interesting


Please don’t ever be the isles gm. Trading Eiserman for 35+ year olds is how you run a franchise into the ground

I could be wrong for sure but I would guess NYI is low on peoples lists right now. Chicago may be more intriguing to some. It doesn't hurt have a Swedish head coach. Did Mikheyev and Pettersson play together?

 

[NC 1972]

I think you keep both, the objective should be in jettisoning older players for prospects and picks in the hopes of acquiring top level talent . Barzal in a secondary role would be fine he isn't a #1 stud center this we know.
And Dobson is having a down year correct but that's not to say he cant rebound, is he our Dennis Potvin no but you hang onto him allow him this year and look for a true force on the back end.