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Barrie Colts 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part I

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Saginaw and Barrie probably have the best trade relationship in the league. I wonder if Saginaw did a small sell off if something in this framework would work for both sides:

To Barrie: Joey Willis, Calem Mangone
To Saginaw: Parker Vaughan, Zach Wigle, SSM 3rd 25, BFD 4th 27
 
Kingpin794 said:
Saginaw and Barrie probably have the best trade relationship in the league. I wonder if Saginaw did a small sell off if something in this framework would work for both sides:

To Barrie: Joey Willis, Calem Mangone
To Saginaw: Parker Vaughan, Zach Wigle, SSM 3rd 25, BFD 4th 27
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Doubt the colts do that but I do like Willis. I don’t see mangone really fit into the lineup with all the right wingers we have and Wigle is good enough for the role he plays. I can’t see Barrie trading Vaughan unless it’s for a superstar that has a chance of coming back next year. Parekh would be interesting I know it’d cost probs Vaughan Tiller Newton and probably 3-4 picks. Can’t see the colts doing that but would be a huge move. I like Joey Willis I think he could fit into the lineup alot better but I don’t think the colts would trade Vaughan for him. Maybe Newton and this years 2nd along with 2-3 other picks in rounds 3-5
 
I am wondering if anyone in this group has Barrie Colts game worn jerseys. I am a season ticket holder this year and have been unsuccessful in winning any of the raffles at the games, and would be interested in picking a few up to wear at games.
 
There's no reason why we cannot win 5 of the next 6 games to finish off the year.

Looking forward to a great 2nd half of the year as well.
 
Kingpin794 said:
Saginaw and Barrie probably have the best trade relationship in the league. I wonder if Saginaw did a small sell off if something in this framework would work for both sides:

To Barrie: Joey Willis, Calem Mangone
To Saginaw: Parker Vaughan, Zach Wigle, SSM 3rd 25, BFD 4th 27
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Although a fan of Willis also, I think Marty would be crazy to even consider this , especially after trading Moses away to acquire an OA. Not sure what he's targeting, an upgrade to Wigle would definitely be nice as well as an additional stay at home defence man that can skate and punish the opposing forwards along the walls.
 
MeafAttack said:
Although a fan of Willis also, I think Marty would be crazy to even consider this , especially after trading Moses away to acquire an OA. Not sure what he's targeting, an upgrade to Wigle would definitely be nice as well as an additional stay at home defence man that can skate and punish the opposing forwards along the walls.
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I think Marty’s much more likely to pickup a OA forward or a LW to improve depth can’t see him getting a D man unless it’s for a 06 D man that could help him next year aswell meaning I’d think tiller would be the odd man out who’s actually played really well so far so i think the d is probably set in stone. Barrie’s best options would be mccue foster or Willis for a LW and I don’t think u should trade Vaughan for any of them. OA’s swick in Kitchener I think makes the most sense for a upgrade of Wigle. I don’t think the colts have enough draft picks to do both things so it’ll probably be one or the other.
 
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Congrats to both Akey and Beaudoin on making the World Junior roster. I thought both were on the outside prior to camp. Some surprise invites/ cuts like every year.
Team is gonna be missing possibly 5 players to this tournament which will give some ice time to the younger guys.
 
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Big opportunity for Parker Vaughan tonight playing on the top line with Jelsma and Wakely. I've liked what i've seen from him so far this year. Hoping he has a good game tonight.
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Nice to see Vaughan get more ice tonight but u can tell he isn’t used to playing heavy mins with top players having a tough one so far tonight. At least this teams biggest weakness is scoring which is the easiest thing to get at the deadline so not a bad place to be.
 
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MeafAttack said:
Congrats to both Akey and Beaudoin on making the World Junior roster. I thought both were on the outside prior to camp. Some surprise invites/ cuts like every year.
Team is gonna be missing possibly 5 players to this tournament which will give some ice time to the younger guys.
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I was a little bit surprised about Akey but not Beaudoin. He's the type of player you win with, never stops working.
 
JetsColts13 said:
Well they definitely didn't have it tonight for most of the game. Glad they stole a point at least.
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Yeah, not a great first and second period. Ben Hrebik stole them a point last night. He was fantastic as he has been all year. Should be a good chance to bounce back tonight as Ottawa will be without their best player in Pinelli.
 
OHLColtsPuck said:
Do you guys think Hilly will be back for OA season?
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Unless he has NCAA aspirations I think he'll be back. I wonder if they look to move Hrebik in the summer to recoup some assets assuming Hillebrandt is back. He's gonna be in high demand and deserves to be a starter next season.
 
Agree, I think he will likely be back to try and earn a pro-contract assuming he doesn't have NCAA aspirations. Who do you think will fill the other two spots? I'm thinking Tiller will take one of the spots as I assume Akey, Bertucci, and Gardner won't be sent back down. I also think it's very unlikely Derbidge stays as an overager.
 
ShooterMcGavin98 said:
Agree, I think he will likely be back to try and earn a pro-contract assuming he doesn't have NCAA aspirations. Who do you think will fill the other two spots? I'm thinking Tiller will take one of the spots as I assume Akey, Bertucci, and Gardner won't be sent back down. I also think it's very unlikely Derbidge stays as an overager.
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I think the colts will have Hillebrandt back as a OA next year unless they have faith in Hrebik or they decide to have both back and have an amazing tandem again. Bertucci will 100% be gone along with akey but I do think Gardiner has a better chance to comeback then to not because he isn’t signed and isn’t gonna put up unbelievable numbers I do think he’ll be back next year. Then tiller would be your 3rd OA on the team Derbidge has no shot of a OA spot. I wonder if hilly is back do they trade him for a OA player if they have confidence in Hrebik. Or they may bring in a 05 this year who has a potential chance of coming back next year mccue, foster, etc… I think either way this team has a very good chance of being a top team next year too I think it’s a 2 year run at this unless Beaudoin is gone which I highly doubt that so he’ll be back for 1 more year.
 
Nice to squeak out a point tonight after another bad game. Should have lost both games this weekend in regulation so to get a point in both is like a win so that’s a positive. Was nice to see Hillebrandt step up in the third after giving up 4 the first 2 periods. Team needs to play a full 60 and when they do they almost always get a win.
 
Santa list would be a top line scorer, top 4 right shot D, and tougher, more physical bottom 6.
Here's my thoughts. They better be pretty sure they can beat London in a 7 game series if they are planning to trade Vaughan. I'm not sure they have the team(regardless of what they do) to beat them. They haven't been able to beat Erie let alone London who might be better than they were last season and they haven't even made their final moves. Vaughan wouldn't be my 1st move and would have to be for the top kids available ie Luchanko, Lardis, Pinelli, healthy Romani or Musty. On back end you re talking McCoy, Gibson, Allen, Mews. But its also going to likely cost picks as well. That means trading one of Newton, Handsor, rights to Moore etc.. That's just for one kid.
Not having top 07 and top 08 wouldn't matter this year but going forward that would be a bit much. They aren't the same team without Beaudoin so if he for whatever reason doesn't return next year it would be a train wreck trying for ice a competitive team without top 6/7/8 kids.
No disrespect to any current players but if I'm throwing all my chips in and trading my top kids all my overagers would have to be top 6, top pair D or stud goalie.
Wigle is the obvious upgrade on OA side. He eats a lot of minutes and would help a lot of teams but I would think there would be a checking center out there who can kill penalties that doesn' t cost an OA spot that would be relatively cheap ie midpack pick. I'd start there. See what you can get for Wigle, prices for other depth guys that could upgrade bottom 6 then if they think they can go all in pull the trigger on a Vaughan move. He gets them top scorer or top D, not both.
My 4th line would all be inexpensive bangers who can play that would be willing to drop the gloves with the Boultons and similar types. I don't want one of my best D having to carry the entire load there. No forwards other than Newton seem to be interested in fighting and he is not a heavy.
Id look for depth D as they are going to have injuries in the playoffs I would want 8 OHL regulars available. Bring in an OA like Collins early enough on backend would be fairly inexpensive, give them size, experience, leadership and toughness. Maybe they do the move for wigle and a third or fourth.
Saying all this, if they are serious about going all the way my guess is anyone not named Wakely, Jelsma, Beaudoin, Aitcheson, Akey, Bertucci would have to be on the table for Marty to try to build a team that can play with London or even Oshawas top end. They don't have it up front right now. I'd like another D and I'm confident with their goalies unless they decided to go get Parsons you could move Hilebrandt and run with Hrebik as number 1 next year.
 
Well they are down Akey and gave up back to back 41 shot games. All this talk about trading their future and you don't see a need to have some depth on backend with some experience? Come on.
London has Dickinson and Bonk I don't think they are envious of anyone.
Of course our top 6 as presently constructed are strong. So is our forward group but it doesn't mean they will stand pat. Everyone knows Marty is going for it it just comes down to how far he ll go.
There are always injuries on D side in the playoffs. Gambling on one of the top 4 not going out after organization trades away their future is a big risk when a depth/experienced D will cost very little. All you have to do is look at the Punnett deal last year. Anyone who thinks Marty wouldn't take a Punnett right now regardless of what they have is nuts.
If they could afford a Pinelli and a McCoy or a Luchanko and Allen they would do it no questions asked. If they have to decide on one it will likely be a high end scorer.
Forwards, D and goalies can all be upgraded its how far they want to take it. How creative they can be. They don't have a lot of trade capital but my guess that priority one with them is big scorer, if they can do more I'd go depth D, some cheap tough forwards and decide if they want to go after best goalie in league might not be a bad idea if they really think they can go toe to toe with London. Its going to be a battle just to win the east.
London is the bar. Hillebrandt likely back as OA while Parsons will be gone and all kitchener has backing up is an 08 and 07 kid signed. Maybe its a move they consider one for one. Then they go into playoffs strong all over with the best goalie in the O with an 06 who has been excellent in case he goes down. I would think they would be more than comfortable with Hrebik being their number one next year. I see it as a win win for both teams. Kitchener isnt going in this year. Nothing is more important than the back end and goalie position come playoff time. If Parsons is available and you re not kicking tires others will be.
 
Oggie Ogoltorp said:
Well they are down Akey and gave up back to back 41 shot games. All this talk about trading their future and you don't see a need to have some depth on backend with some experience? Come on.
London has Dickinson and Bonk I don't think they are envious of anyone.
Of course our top 6 as presently constructed are strong. So is our forward group but it doesn't mean they will stand pat. Everyone knows Marty is going for it it just comes down to how far he ll go.
There are always injuries on D side in the playoffs. Gambling on one of the top 4 not going out after organization trades away their future is a big risk when a depth/experienced D will cost very little. All you have to do is look at the Punnett deal last year. Anyone who thinks Marty wouldn't take a Punnett right now regardless of what they have is nuts.
If they could afford a Pinelli and a McCoy or a Luchanko and Allen they would do it no questions asked. If they have to decide on one it will likely be a high end scorer.
Forwards, D and goalies can all be upgraded its how far they want to take it. How creative they can be. They don't have a lot of trade capital but my guess that priority one with them is big scorer, if they can do more I'd go depth D, some cheap tough forwards and decide if they want to go after best goalie in league might not be a bad idea if they really think they can go toe to toe with London. Its going to be a battle just to win the east.
London is the bar. Hillebrandt likely back as OA while Parsons will be gone and all kitchener has backing up is an 08 and 07 kid signed. Maybe its a move they consider one for one. Then they go into playoffs strong all over with the best goalie in the O with an 06 who has been excellent in case he goes down. I would think they would be more than comfortable with Hrebik being their number one next year. I see it as a win win for both teams. Kitchener isnt going in this year. Nothing is more important than the back end and goalie position come playoff time. If Parsons is available and you re not kicking tires others will be.
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I like the idea I just don’t think the colts would be strong enough up front if you’re using a OA spot on a goalie when u have a good tandem already. Hrebik has played like a top tier goalie and Hillebrandt was incredible last playoffs. Jackson parsons has never had a save percentage over .900 in his career I get he’s been great this year but I don’t think that’s of an upgrade. I would upgrade Wigle if I could for cheap. The 2 targets I would have would be swick or Van steensel to reunite with Wakely. The potential try to get a guy like foster or mccue to add forward depth. I think the D could use a depth guy but at the same time when u have the D they have is the guy u bring in really gonna have much of a impact with how much the other top D can eat up ice time.
 
I think in an absolute perfect world the colts trade for mccue which would probably cost them this years 2nd and 3rd along with a 5th in 2026 and Jaiden Newton. Then trade Wigle a 3rd in 2026 and a 5th this year for Van steensel then potentially trade a few late round picks maybe a 6th and 8th or something for a depth 05 D maybe for a Blair Scott type player. Then your lines going into playoffs would be

Stewart Beaudoin Patterson
VanSteensel Wakely Gardiner
McCue Jelsma Hemming
Lowe Vaughan Derbidge
Dubowsky

Bertucci Aitchenson
Eliasson Akey
Tiller Passmore
Scott Handsor

Hillebrandt
Hrebik

I think this roster could definitely compete with London I don’t think u could ever say you’d win but this roster could definitely win a conference championship if they get rolling. I know this is all hypothetical I don’t know how aggressive or non aggressive Marty will be but I do think this is a 2 year window and trading Vaughan for a rental in a year London is like a AHL team isn’t very smart in my opinion either. I wouldn’t trade the rights to Moore either if he suddenly shows up to Barrie next year it would be huge and to trade him to sweeten a deal isn’t very smart.
 
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frontsfan67 said:
Some heavy rumours about Barrie and North Bay on X

Potentially a 4 team trade that won’t go down until January.

My thinking is Romani and Van Steensel for Parker Vaughan, Zach Wigle and picks. Romani has to be in there for sure I would assume and Vaughan too.
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Likely the two seconds and two thirds they have left then they are without a second or third until 2029
 
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