Barrie Colts 2022 Off-season Thread

[Devin]

Moved to the area from BC and decided to get season tickets last year.

Big congrats to HH for getting drafted in the 2nd. I'm hoping Clarke comes back next year and we make a run. I truly believe we are going to have all the pcs to go for it the year after next.

Or how about this year?

 

[dirty12]

I do think Lemieux has a good chance to return as one of the OAs. He gets better every year and the team seems to love him. The D core is pretty light without him after the first 3

Looking at your depth chart I could see them moving on from Del Monte as he seems to never be available.

If Sale commits and Cardwell gets moved (I also expect this) I could see the forward lines being something like this:

Jelsma - Vierling - McDonnell
Sale - Haight - Matthews
York - Frasca - Grisolia
Pickell - Beaudoin - Jodoin

Extras:
Lowe
Wigle
Smith

If Cardwell and Williamson cannot co-exist, Cardwell will be moved. I really doubt the reason will be Williamson feels a need to keep Lemieux because the Colts D is light after the top 3. Lemieux would get less TOI than all of Clarke, Punnet, Cholach, Akey imo. I’m not even sure an OA swap of Cardwell for Roger (KGN) would improve the team.

 

[Devin]

If Cardwell and Williamson cannot co-exist, Cardwell will be moved. I really doubt the reason will be Williamson feels a need to keep Lemieux because the Colts D is light after the top 3. Lemieux would get less TOI than all of Clarke, Punnet, Cholach, Akey imo. I’m not even sure an OA swap of Cardwell for Roger (KGN) would improve the team.

Trading cardwell never will improve the team.

Just do this:

To Bar: Shane Wright
To KGN : 3x (2nd) + 2x (3rd) + 4th + pick + 2 young roster players with upside

To Bar: Del Mastro
To Fish: 2x (2nd) + Akey + young roster player + pick

To Bar: Johnston
To WSR: Beaudoin, 2x (2nd) + 2 picks +

There’s picks and players to be traded everywhere. If you’re trading cardwell then there’s also the return on that.

 

[dirty12]

Trading cardwell never will improve the team.

Just do this:

To Bar: Shane Wright
To KGN : 3x (2nd) + 2x (3rd) + 4th + pick + 2 young roster players with upside

To Bar: Del Mastro
To Fish: 2x (2nd) + Akey + young roster player + pick

To Bar: Johnston
To WSR: Beaudoin, 2x (2nd) + 2 picks +

There’s picks and players to be traded everywhere. If you’re trading cardwell then there’s also the return on that.

Looks easy; except two of those could be in the nhl and Mississauga contending

 

[Generalsupdates]

Trading cardwell never will improve the team.

Just do this:

To Bar: Shane Wright
To KGN : 3x (2nd) + 2x (3rd) + 4th + pick + 2 young roster players with upside

To Bar: Del Mastro
To Fish: 2x (2nd) + Akey + young roster player + pick

To Bar: Johnston
To WSR: Beaudoin, 2x (2nd) + 2 picks +

There’s picks and players to be traded everywhere. If you’re trading cardwell then there’s also the return on that.

You're not getting Shane Wright without giving up Beaudoin

 

[Devin]

You're not getting Shane Wright without giving up Beaudoin

I think I’d rather Johnston over Wright if had to decide between the 2 then if all fell into place

 

[Generalsupdates]

I think I’d rather Johnston over Wright if had to decide between the 2 then if all fell into place

Yeah I'd probably agree with that. Although I think Johnston is in the NHL next year

 

[Devin]

Yeah I'd probably agree with that. Although I think Johnston is in the NHL next year

Yeah I hope this year is a better buyers market than last. We know kingston will be rebuilding atleast and Oshawa I guess for a year

 

[Generalsupdates]

Yeah I hope this year is a better buyers market than last. We know kingston will be rebuilding atleast and Oshawa I guess for a year

Who knows with Kingston. They should be rebuilding but if they get Wright back and now they have a 1 year stud NHL goalie. They could pull a Niagara and say okay let's go for it one last time around Wright and the goalie.

PBO/MISS/NIA/BAR should be buyers in the East based on their roster construction. SBY/OTT better than last year but not buyers. HAM/NB could take a step back if they decide to or could be pretty good again with a add move or two.


No idea about the west but that looks more like a sellers market to me as the Gens are the only team who you are pretty sure will be looking to trade their best player. KGN maybe but other than those 2, I don't think anyone will be. Could be quite a few teams to force to outbid each other in the East

 

[Devin]

Who knows with Kingston. They should be rebuilding but if they get Wright back and now they have a 1 year stud NHL goalie. They could pull a Niagara and say okay let's go for it one last time around Wright and the goalie.

PBO/MISS/NIA/BAR should be buyers in the East based on their roster construction. SBY/OTT better than last year but not buyers. HAM/NB could take a step back if they decide to or could be pretty good again with a add move or two.


No idea about the west but that looks more like a sellers market to me as the Gens are the only team who you are pretty sure will be looking to trade their best player. KGN maybe but other than those 2, I don't think anyone will be. Could be quite a few teams to force to outbid each other in the East

Ugh, yeah in the east anyway it’s looking like yet another year of a crappy buyers market compared to sellers.

Hoping the west is different. Maybe KIT trades Pinelli and build around their 04’s / 05’s but even then might not.

Might be boring and see who develops their picks from previous drafts instead of huge deadline splashes.

But not sure what Niagara is doing, the new owner thinks his team has a chance and wasted his valueable picks on those windsor players when really they aren’t that good

 

[Generalsupdates]

Ugh, yeah in the east anyway it’s looking like yet another year of a crappy buyers market compared to sellers.

Hoping the west is different. Maybe KIT trades Pinelli and build around their 04’s / 05’s but even then might not.

Might be boring and see who develops their picks from previous drafts instead of huge deadline splashes.

But not sure what Niagara is doing, the new owner thinks his team has a chance and wasted his valueable picks on those windsor players when really they aren’t that good

KIT will be going for it next year I'd assume. They're about to get a couple big signings too that will make that more apparent.

That's the thing with the OHL. You assume NIA/KGN/HAM will be rebuilding but then NIA goes and adds a bunch. KGN could decide we have Wright and a top 5 goalie, let's go. And HAM still has quite a few pieces and might be pissed they lost in the Mem Cup final and want to go again. You never know

 

[Generalsupdates]

Ugh, yeah in the east anyway it’s looking like yet another year of a crappy buyers market compared to sellers.

Hoping the west is different. Maybe KIT trades Pinelli and build around their 04’s / 05’s but even then might not.

Might be boring and see who develops their picks from previous drafts instead of huge deadline splashes.

But not sure what Niagara is doing, the new owner thinks his team has a chance and wasted his valueable picks on those windsor players when really they aren’t that good

OTT just got Marco Kasper for 1 year. Add them to the group of buyers lol

 

[HockeyPops]

Is that official? I haven't seen it posted anywhere.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Is that official? I haven't seen it posted anywhere.

 

[Devin]

Crazy Clarke has seem to be cut from team Canada summer roster? I think they do another camp for the real tourney in the winter?

If I were Clarke though, I wouldn’t even show up after being snubbed twice now.

Does hockey Canada not like defencemen who like to be in the offensive zone?

 

[HockeyPops]

Many players opted out to get ready for NHL camp. Was he one of those?

 

[Devin]

Many players opted out to get ready for NHL camp. Was he one of those?

That’s what I’m wondering. But he was at camp with them so…

 

[Square Corners]

Crazy Clarke has seem to be cut from team Canada summer roster? I think they do another camp for the real tourney in the winter?

If I were Clarke though, I wouldn’t even show up after being snubbed twice now.

Does hockey Canada not like defencemen who like to be in the offensive zone?

He's not good enough to be on that August team as an underager. Plays too undisciplined and reckless for Canada, they've said that before. He'll be on the December team for his own age group

 

[Devin]

He's not good enough to be on that August team as an underager. Plays too undisciplined and reckless for Canada, they've said that before. He'll be on the December team for his own age group

Again, I wouldn’t show up if I were him.

Would you?

He's not good enough to be on that August team as an underager. Plays too undisciplined and reckless for Canada, they've said that before. He'll be on the December team for his own age group

I also heard something about being bossy around his teammates but idk if that adds to anything

 

[CanadienColt]

Again, I wouldn’t show up if I were him.

Would you?


I also heard something about being bossy around his teammates but idk if that adds to anything

I hate the politics with team Canada. I cannot imagine how frustrated Clarke must feel to always be snubbed. He's certainly good enough to earn a roster spot. There has to be more to this story.

 

[OHL Fan]

You're not getting Shane Wright without giving up Beaudoin

Kingston has enough slow footed forwards.

I hate the politics with team Canada. I cannot imagine how frustrated Clarke must feel to always be snubbed. He's certainly good enough to earn a roster spot. There has to be more to this story.

I agree. Clarke is a solid dman. Maybe there is just a part of his game they cant accept?

 

[EvenSteven]

KIT ….. about to get a couple big signings too that will make that more apparent.

Ranger fan here. That just a feeling or are you in the know?

 

[Devin]

Clarke and Cardwell hanging out at the boots and hearts barn burner.

Let’s hope this means chemistry is good with Cardwell and he’s not traded.

Should be a good team.

 

[dirty12]

Barrie Colts

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Kavanaugh should start the season in the third pairing with one of Tiller or Aitcheson, so that is an indication that Lemieux is not in the Colts plan for OAs; unless, the plan is to go with four OAs?

 

[Devin]

Barrie Colts

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Kavanaugh should start the season in the third pairing with one of Tiller or Aitcheson, so that is an indication that Lemieux is not in the Colts plan for OAs; unless, the plan is to go with four OAs?

@OHL4Life

I guess Marty read the boards and had some sense knocked into him about cardsy.