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All of Holland’s drafts were ass
Holloway might have been the only one that could potentially be the right pick for his spot. Broberg will be an everyday player but so many better players taken after him. XB and Schaffer were junk picks. Do we even have any players taken during Hollands time in rounds 2 to 7 that even look like potential NHL players? Akey, Wanner and Lavoie is all I can think of.
 

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Bourgault was always a bad f***ing pick from day 1, lol. Wright's a horseshit scout.


I know who was passed on looks bad now, but in general the 2021 draft was a crapshoot because of COVID.

Bourgault was slotted 20th by Bob Mackenzie, who polls scouts. So you can say Wright is a horseshit scout (which is true) but all the other scouts had the same opinion.

Would have been nice if anyone listened to Coffey though...
 
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Holloway might have been the only one that could potentially be the right pick for his spot. Broberg will be an everyday player but so many better players taken after him. XB and Schaffer were junk picks. Do we even have any players taken during Hollands time in rounds 2 to 7 that even look like potential NHL players? Akey, Wanner and Lavoie is all I can think of.
Holloway being the least shittiest 1st round pick is pretty rough too. Looking back, there are many picks in the late 1st round that panned out better than Holloway. Even Calgary got a superior Connor Zary at 24th.

In Holland's combined 5 drafts (and 25 picks) between 2019-2023, Holloway and Broberg may very well become the only legit NHLers. And they're both out of the organization already. Chiarelli actually had Holland beat clean in the draft department.
 

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Holloway being the least shittiest 1st round pick is pretty rough too. Looking back, there are many picks in the late 1st round that panned out better than Holloway. Even Calgary got a superior Connor Zary at 24th.

In Holland's combined 5 drafts (and 25 picks) between 2019-2023, Holloway and Broberg may very well become the only legit NHLers. And they're both out of the organization already. Chiarelli actually had Holland beat clean in the draft department.

I feel like Red Wings fans warned us about Wright too.
 
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I know who was passed on looks bad now, but in general the 2021 draft was a crapshoot because of COVID.

Bourgault was slotted 20th by Bob Mackenzie, who polls scouts. So you can say Wright is a horseshit scout (which is true) but all the other scouts had the same opinion.

Would have been nice if anyone listened to Coffey though...
XB shouldn’t have even been an afterthought with Walstedt dropping to us. That should have been a no-brainer automatic pick, even over WJ at that point in time.
 
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I feel like Red Wings fans warned us about Wright too.
The Red Wings 2017 draft might be the worst of all time.

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They reached for a guy with third line upside at #9 and then proceeded to use the other 10 picks on guys who were 4th line and bottom pairing players in junior with barely even AHL upside.

It's honestly mindboggling that Wright got another job after that. Like sure, the draft is a crap shoot, but just the choice to draft that many of those types of players in one draft hurts my brain.
 
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Senor Catface

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XB shouldn’t have even been an afterthought with Walstedt dropping to us. That should have been a no-brainer automatic pick, even over WJ at that point in time.

Yeah, he would have been nice to grab. But I don't think Bourgault was a bad pick in general at the time. He was picked exactly where scouts thought he would go.

Obviously he did not work out. I'm just saying there's a difference between a bad pick at the time and a bad pick in retrospect.

I think we can all agree Walstedt and Wyatt Johnston were big misses.
 

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The Red Wings 2017 draft might be the worst of all time.

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They reached for a guy with third line upside at #9 and then proceeded to use the other 10 picks on guys who were 4th line and bottom pairing players in junior with barely even AHL upside.

It's honestly mindboggling that Wright got another job after that. Like sure, the draft is a crap shoot, but just the choice to draft that many of those types of players in one draft hurts my brain.

Hopefully Wanner or LaChance makes it in the NHL because there is a chance we could come out of the 2020 and 2021 draft with a combined 0 NHL games played...
 

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Hopefully Wanner or LaChance makes it in the NHL because there is a chance we could come out of the 2020 and 2021 draft with a combined 0 NHL games played...
I can at least stomach those a bit because they swung on some decent upside guys and missed.

Having six picks in the top 3 rounds like Detroit did that year and picking a bunch of guys that could be 4th line/3rd pairing guys in the NHL if absolutely everything went right for them is just crazy.
 
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The Red Wings 2017 draft might be the worst of all time.

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They reached for a guy with third line upside at #9 and then proceeded to use the other 10 picks on guys who were 4th line and bottom pairing players in junior with barely even AHL upside.

It's honestly mindboggling that Wright got another job after that. Like sure, the draft is a crap shoot, but just the choice to draft that many of those types of players in one draft hurts my brain.
Oilers 1990

1990 Entry
DraftNum.RoundPlayerPosDrafted FromGPGAPtsPIM
1990 Entry171Scott AllisonWPrince Albert Raiders [WHL]
1990 Entry382Alexandre LegaultDBoston University [H-East]
1990 Entry593Joe CrowleyLLawrence Academy (Mass.)
1990 Entry674Joel BlainLHull Olympiques [QMJHL]
1990 Entry1015Greg LouderGCushing Academy [Mass H.S.]
1990 Entry1226Keijo SailynojaFJokerit Helsinki [SM-liiga]
1990 Entry1437Mike PowerGWestern Michigan University [CCHA]
1990 Entry1648Roman MejzlikDukla Jihlava [Czech]
1990 Entry1859Richard ZemlickaFSparta Praha [Czech]
1990 Entry20610Petr KorinekCPlzen [Czech.]
1990 Entry24812Sami NuutinenDKiekko-Espoo [FinD1]


with 86 not far behind

1986 Entry
DraftNum.RoundPlayerPosDrafted FromGPGAPtsPIM
1986 Entry211Kim IsselRPrince Albert Raiders [WHL]40000
1986 Entry422Jamie NicollsRPortland Winter Hawks [WHL]
1986 Entry633Ron ShudraDKamloops Blazers [WHL]100556
1986 Entry844Dan CurrieLSoo Greyhounds [OHL]222134
1986 Entry1055David HaasLLondon Knights [OHL]72137
1986 Entry1266Jim EnnisDBoston University [H-East]510110
1986 Entry1477Ivan MatulikRBratislava Slovan [Slovak]
1986 Entry1688Nick BeaulieuLDrummondville Voltigeurs [QMJHL]
1986 Entry1899Mike GreenlayGCalgary Midgets AAA20110
1986 Entry21010Matt LanzaDWinthrop H.S. (Mass.)
1986 Entry23111Mojmir BozikDKosice (Czech.)
1986 Entry25212Tony HandFMurrayfield Racers [BHL]
 

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Cameron Wright now has 5 points in 2 preseason games.

I take a bit more value of AHL preseason, since they are 95 percent the same rosters they will start the season with.

Wright is my darkhorse quality AHL player this year. The games I watched last year he usually stood out in a good way.
 
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I know who was passed on looks bad now, but in general the 2021 draft was a crapshoot because of COVID.

Bourgault was slotted 20th by Bob Mackenzie, who polls scouts. So you can say Wright is a horseshit scout (which is true) but all the other scouts had the same opinion.

Would have been nice if anyone listened to Coffey though...

I wanted Wallstedt that day. Of course Johnston would've been excellent as well including getting a recommendation from Coffey to the Oilers to pick him. It just didn't make sense to move down from a blue chip goalie prospect who the wild just signed to a 2x2 today as well.
 

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I wanted Wallstedt that day. Of course Johnston would've been excellent as well including getting a recommendation from Coffey to the Oilers to pick him. It just didn't make sense to move down from a blue chip goalie prospect who the wild just signed to a 2x2 today as well.
How would the Oilers pay that cost for a goalie with no NHL experience?
 
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