Post-Game Talk: Baby shark (doo doo doo doo doo doo)

[NYR Viper]

I missed the 3rd, but I saw Chytil come back in the 2nd? Did he not come out for the 3rd?

 

[McRanger92]

Fil being hurt is a nightmare scenario. Legitimately the only forward consistently driving his line all season.

I know it was an awkward play but does Miller have that little awareness that he couldn't react and try and do anything other than elbowing Chytil in the head?


That last shift is still bugging me. Kreider moving in cement, locked knees, literally waving at the puck in the air like it's warmups. Miller just standing still watching, Mika completely out of position. It's a one goal game and you're just giving them the zone and letting them get to the net. What type of effort is that? Is there anyone on this team with the right mentality right now? They'll get in the locker room and talk to the media about needing to play 60 minutes as they're lollygagging at the start to every game and then last night in the last minute of a one goal game.

The "needing to play a full 60" company line is an insult to fans at this point. Its been literally years since it was first uttered and they really dont look that much different since. Leadership too often doesnt want the puck on their stick, doesnt want to get dirty physically. The Rangers start and finish periods terribly because they dont play through the whistle. Cultural problem.

 

[CLW]

I missed the 3rd, but I saw Chytil come back in the 2nd? Did he not come out for the 3rd?

Nope. And now there will be radio silence on Fil for the next three weeks.

 

[Mandar]

Deserve to win-o-meter please.....

 

[TGWL]

Deserve to win-o-meter please.....

 

[Raspewtin]

it wasn't bad I guess but I expected better

Fil being out is a death sentence. Our best 5 on 5 center. Welcome back Brod.

Lindgren and Trouba are unadulterated garbage

Miller has had more wtf moments in his career than any other Ranger I could think of

Mika was fine. He scored and played good enough against a dogshit team. Can't say i'm impressed but not disgusted either.

I'm really disconnected from this season. Don't even watch highlights anymore. Just nothing to really be excited about.

 

[duhmetreE]

I'm really disconnected from this season. Don't even watch highlights anymore. Just nothing to really be excited about.

feel the exact same way

we know how it ends

 

[McRanger92]

feel the exact same way

we know how it ends

With Kreider holding back tears in the locker room, shocked at how this could happen again?

 

[MrAlmost]

I'm sorry but it needs to be said cause it's getting a little much. Players run into each other all the time. It happens. Unfortunately Chytil may be hurt.

But Chytil is NOTORIOUS for skating with blinders on. He routinely has near misses for getting killed near the red and offensive blue line. He is reckless, fast and fragile. A dangerous combo.

What i am getting at is it isn't Miller's fault and it's not Chytils fault. 2 players got mixed up and it happens. Hopefully Chytil is OK.

 

[DanielBrassard]

it wasn't bad I guess but I expected better

Fil being out is a death sentence. Our best 5 on 5 center. Welcome back Brod.

Lindgren and Trouba are unadulterated garbage

Miller has had more wtf moments in his career than any other Ranger I could think of

Mika was fine. He scored and played good enough against a dogshit team. Can't say i'm impressed but not disgusted either.

I'm really disconnected from this season. Don't even watch highlights anymore. Just nothing to really be excited about.

I agree, hard to get too excited about anything, specifically a single game considering the opponent. With Chytil looking at a potential long-term injury again it’s even more deflating. The Rangers are what they have been for years at this point and the only thing that will change that is a restructuring of the roster.

 

[TGWL]

With Kreider holding back tears in the locker room, shocked at how this could happen again?

Don't forget the speech about how we will learn from this and come back with a chip on the shoulder.

 

[McRanger92]

Don't forget the speech about how we will learn from this and come back with a chip on the shoulder.

These guys do love to yap about the same cliches they think we want to hear.

 

[TGWL]

I'm sorry but it needs to be said cause it's getting a little much. Players run into each other all the time. It happens. Unfortunately Chytil may be hurt.

But Chytil is NOTORIOUS for skating with blinders on. He routinely has near misses for getting killed near the red and offensive blue line. He is reckless, fast and fragile. A dangerous combo.

What i am getting at is it isn't Miller's fault and it's not Chytils fault. 2 players got mixed up and it happens. Hopefully Chytil is OK.

I'm not really blaming Miller and you want to see your defensemen try to keep the puck in play, but I thought with the puck moving more east-west and not north-south up the boards, that Miller should have recognized Chytil going for the puck there. In fairness, Chytil should have recognized Miller pinching and moved into a position to cover the pinch but his situational awareness when going for a puck is really bad.

 

[hardnosed]

We need the Twitter docs on the Chytil video, doesn't help that MSG refuses to show other angles.

Slowing down the clip I don't think Miller's elbow got Fil in jaw or head. Looked more like Front shoulder. However, Fil had a huge whiplash which is bad for both head and neck.

Hoping he had the air knocked out of him. There's no way they force him off the ice just to clear him for return. Then again, maybe he's gone through enough concussion tests to wing it. Who knows. Just really hope he's OK. His energy and enthusiasm this year has been great and it would be demoralizing if this is how it goes.

I can't believe that either Fil or our medical team would attempt to get back in that game if the issue was a possible concussion. Neither could be that stupid. Sore neck, bruised collarbone - hopefully something like that, especially since you claim Miller's elbow did not hit his face. I haven't studied the video.

 

[noncents]

I'm not really blaming Miller and you want to see your defensemen try to keep the puck in play, but I thought with the puck moving more east-west and not north-south up the boards, that Miller should have recognized Chytil going for the puck there. In fairness, Chytil should have recognized Miller pinching and moved into a position to cover the pinch but his situational awareness when going for a puck is really bad.

honestly who the f*** cares exactly who should have been more responsible in that exact split second?

the point is: if that type of contact is dangerous for a player, they shouldn't be in the nhl. there is no way to prevent it.

 

[TGWL]

honestly who the f*** cares exactly who should have been more responsible in that exact split second?

the point is: if that type of contact is dangerous for a player, they shouldn't be in the nhl. there is no way to prevent it.

Sure, but those are 2 very different conversations taking place...

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I can't believe that either Fil or our medical team would attempt to get back in that game if the issue was a possible concussion. Neither could be that stupid. Sore neck, bruised collarbone - hopefully something like that, especially since you claim Miller's elbow did not hit his face. I haven't studied the video.

He was definitley hit in the face but it was the shoulder

 

[TGWL]

I can't believe that either Fil or our medical team would attempt to get back in that game if the issue was a possible concussion. Neither could be that stupid. Sore neck, bruised collarbone - hopefully something like that, especially since you claim Miller's elbow did not hit his face. I haven't studied the video.

My assumption was that he got called off to be checked out. His body language seemed annoyed that he was being forced to leave the rink. They did some quick testing and nothing seemed abnormal. Perhaps Chytil wasn't honest or thought he could play through it so didn't 100% say what he was feeling. Perhaps it's a facial injury - although that typically would have leaked already. In any event, whether Chytil passed a concussion test (assuming the injury isn't non-concussion), I think the organization owes it to the player to take extra precautionary measures.

 

[will1066]

I agree, hard to get too excited about anything, specifically a single game considering the opponent. With Chytil looking at a potential long-term injury again it’s even more deflating. The Rangers are what they have been for years at this point and the only thing that will change that is a restructuring of the roster.

Change the roster, but also change the culture around the whole hockey operation. Reignite accountability. Take power back from the inmates who are running the institution.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I know I'm a wimp and these guys are the toughest humans on earth but sometimes I get in my own head about symptoms that are imagined when it comes to past health scares. Is it possible that he tested fine but got a bot of the yips when he went on the ice the right away?

 

[McRanger92]

Change the roster, but also change the culture around the whole hockey operation. Reignite accountability. Take power back from the inmates who are running the institution.

This is really where we stand and I think the majority of the fanbase (on here anyway) can see that. They dont have to change everything but they have to change something. Its insulting and a waste of time to think this team has a chance adding only deadline rentals.

 

[Peltz]

This is really where we stand and I think the majority of the fanbase (on here anyway) can see that. They dont have to change everything but they have to change something. Its insulting and a Iwaste of time to think this team has a chance adding only deadline rentals.

I mean... they do have an outside chance. It's objectively disingenuous to say they don't.

I think the fanbase on here is beyond dramatic. There are highs and lows throughout the season guys.

Before Chytil was injured, there were a lot of promising signs that this lineup could get further than last year if Zib could turn things around since it's a far deeper team with Chytil healthy, and Kakko/Cuyle playing as well as they are.

The fourth line is better too.

Like... last year they won the Presidents trophy and got to the ECF and I swear the majority of this board hated every moment of it.

This game is one of very narrow margins of victory and defeat. This group has shown time and again that they can surprise us, defeat difficult opponents, and overcome adversity.

Y'all need to chill a bit. It's November. They got 2 points and did what they needed to do.

Chytil getting injured is cause for panic. But the rest of the team doesn't deserve this level of criticism.

 

[CLW]

This is really where we stand and I think the majority of the fanbase (on here anyway) can see that. They dont have to change everything but they have to change something. Its insulting and a waste of time to think this team has a chance adding only deadline rentals.

We hardly have any picks left. We have players asking for overpriced contracts because this org has given away those for years. We have little in the way of serious talent coming up. We have a lot of aging vets whose peak is behind them. The young up and coming players we have are blocked behind them and developing slowly. The roster is fundamentally flawed. The coaching is questionable.

President GM Drury, as much as anyone, is responsible for this mess. It will take serious, precise and very creative work to sort this mess out in order to create a genuine contender, qualities we have seen nothing of from management for years.

Then again, management will keep trading and rolling things over to ensure this team makes the playoffs year in year out. That's their only gold standard.

 

[McRanger92]

I mean... they do have an outside chance. It's objectively disingenuous to say they don't.

I think the fanbase on here is beyond dramatic. There are highs and lows throughout the season guys.

Before Chytil was injured, there were a lot of promising signs that this lineup could get further than last year if Zib could turn things around since it's a far deeper team with Chytil healthy, and Kakko/Cuyle playing as well as they are.

The fourth line is better too.

Like... last year they won the Presidents trophy and got to the ECF and I swear the majority of this board hated every moment of it.

This game is one of very narrow margins of victory and defeat. This group has shown time and again that they can surprise us, defeat difficult opponents, and overcome adversity.

Y'all need to chill a bit. It's November. They got 2 points and did what they needed to do.

Chytil getting injured is cause for panic. But the rest of the team doesn't deserve this level of criticism.

I respect your optimism but they don't have a chance with this defense core. They just don't. The forwards on Florida and Tampa Bay who actually forecheck will be salivating facing burlap sacks like Lindgren and Miller in the playoffs. Their only chance is Igor turning into a brick wall in the later rounds but that happened last year and they were lucky to even get it to 6 games. When the games become more physical and intense our top leaders and highest paid guys dont rise to the task. We have years of evidence of that.

We hardly have any picks left. We have players asking for overpriced contracts because this org has given away those for years. We have little in the way of serious talent coming up. We have a lot of aging vets whose peak is behind them. The young up and coming players we have are blocked behind them and developing slowly. The roster is fundamentally flawed. The coaching is questionable.

President GM Drury, as much as anyone, is responsible for this mess. It will take serious, precise and very creative work to sort this mess out in order to create a genuine contender, qualities we have seen nothing of from management for years.

Then again, management will keep trading and rolling things over to ensure this team makes the playoffs year in year out. That's their only gold standard.

Drury has had his ups and downs as a GM but he's failing with the big picture moves. He's mostly nailed the stopgap additions. He's managing the roster like he has a lifetime contract. Lack of urgency is going to come back to bite him.

 

[RagFinMet]

Feel bad for fil
He should retire
This is however a great opportunity for Edstrom who should center the 3rd line now
But we all know it will be JB...