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[SuperScript29]

This isn't an NHL 25 message board. It's just not that simple.

That's okay, in 20 games if we still suck, I think you'll wish Yzerman was operating on NHL 25 mode.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

If we have not improved by game 20, I say screw it. Bring ASP over and get rid of someone like Chiarot.

of all the Dmen on the team to get rid of, why pick Chiarot??

At present he's the second most important Dman on the team. Yes, more than Ed though Ed will hopefully overtake that role soon.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

If we have not improved by game 20, I say screw it. Bring ASP over and get rid of someone like Chiarot.

if we haven't improved by game 20 the season is toast. better to take the L, add another top 10 pick and let our prospects develop for next year

 

[SuperScript29]

if we haven't improved by game 20 the season is toast. better to take the L, add another top 10 pick and let our prospects develop for next year

Last season we broke our franchise record to 8 years of missing the playoffs in a row, so missing the playoffs again this year would just extend this crappy record. At some point extreme measures need to be taken. We had our high picks 4-5 years ago and had enough time to build a team around the youth and the core guys, at some point results need to be mandatory.

If the Wings don't make the playoffs this year, there needs to be some serious shakeup to the team, and yes, this involves Yzerman being on the hot seat.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

Last season we broke our franchise record to 8 years of missing the playoffs in a row, so missing the playoffs again this year would just extend this crappy record. At some point extreme measures need to be taken. We had our high picks 4-5 years ago and had enough time to build a team around the youth and the core guys, at some point results need to be mandatory.

If the Wings don't make the playoffs this year, there needs to be some serious shakeup to the team, and yes, this involves Yzerman being on the hot seat.

there is no mandatory in professional sports. you try your best and you get what you get

if things don't improve by game 20 we'll have 16 points in 20 games, a 65 point pace. there's no coming back from that. we're not the 23-24 oilers

lastly, swapping chiarot for asp isn't going to improve anything (except our draft position)

 

[SuperScript29]

there is no mandatory in professional sports. you try your best and you get what you get

if things don't improve by game 20 we'll have 16 points in 20 games, a 65 point pace. there's no coming back from that. we're not the 23-24 oilers

But this is what sets successful franchises from those who are not. I'm not sure how old you are, but I watched the Wings since the 90s, so I remember a time where this franchise was looked at as the standard. I get it, it's sports entertainment and not something serious, but as a fan I can say that the direction they poop hard if they miss another year, and to me it would be an indication that they're not moving toward the right direction.

lastly, swapping chiarot for asp isn't going to improve anything (except our draft position)

For this kind of effort, this would be for the best.

 

[heyfolks]

lastly, swapping chiarot for asp isn't going to improve anything (except our draft position)

Nail meet hammer.

ASP needs a complete, healthy year of SHL dominance and then one in the AHL before being put in the winged wheel.

The negative comments on Edvinsson are wildly misguided. The guy was paired with Mo against the Preds top line, which is one of the best in the NHL. He has faced the top teams and is holding his own, with flashes of brilliance. This kid is going to be great, think Lidstrom with Chara size (that hyperbole is for Jaster).

Does this D have holes? Yep. Would Trouba have been a welcome addition? Yep. Could the Wings afford him? Nope. Would they be Cup contenders with him? Nope. Unless some of your are misleading yourself, the stated goal is the #8 spot. No one in the Wings organization is speaking to League dominance. Plus they ran into a buzzsaw called the Rangers to start the season.

 

[stillwater]

Yeah, obviously no one here would have known that the Wings were the franchise standard in the 90's. Thanks for bringing everyone up to speed.

Perhaps some day, some of us will understand the different ways this teams needs to be built, compared to that mystic 90's team that somehow no one here was aware of.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

But this is what sets successful franchises from those who are not. I'm not sure how old you are, but I watched the Wings since the 90s, so I remember a time where this franchise was looked at as the standard. I get it, it's sports entertainment and not something serious, but as a fan I can say that the direction they poop hard if they miss another year, and to me it would be an indication that they're not moving toward the right direction.

the fruits of our rebuild are literally ripening before our eyes. this is blatantly obvious to everyone who is paying attention, even certain posters who have some weird fetish that involves negging teenage athletes on the internet. we have 9 roster spots open next year with as much as 25 million in cap space. we could have as many as 8 highly promising prospects ready for nhl duty as early as next season. if you don't have the patience to wait one more year for it to all come together you might not be as old and wise as you think you are

For this kind of effort, this would be for the best.

unless it negatively affects asp's development

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Last season we broke our franchise record to 8 years of missing the playoffs in a row, so missing the playoffs again this year would just extend this crappy record. At some point extreme measures need to be taken. We had our high picks 4-5 years ago and had enough time to build a team around the youth and the core guys, at some point results need to be mandatory.

If the Wings don't make the playoffs this year, there needs to be some serious shakeup to the team, and yes, this involves Yzerman being on the hot seat.

2020 - 39 points
2021 - 48 points
2022 - 74 points
2023 - 80 points
2024 - 91 points and missed the playoffs due to a tiebreaker.

Are those not positive results?

 

[OldnotDeadWings]

If the Wings don't make the playoffs this year, there needs to be some serious shakeup to the team, and yes, this involves Yzerman being on the hot seat.

The only time in the foreseeable future that Yzerman will be on the hot seat is if he wants a large dog sleeping on it before he uses it.

 

[lilidk]

Why most here think that before playing in NHL ASP should play in AHL. There's nothing for him to learn in AHL. Very next season he should be on second pair

 

[stillwater]

2020 - 39 points
2021 - 48 points
2022 - 74 points
2023 - 80 points
2024 - 91 points and missed the playoffs due to a tiebreaker.

Are those not positive results?

One could even say that that's the "standard" of improvement.

 

[SuperScript29]

2020 - 39 points
2021 - 48 points
2022 - 74 points
2023 - 80 points
2024 - 91 points and missed the playoffs due to a tiebreaker.

Are those not positive results?

Go back to my first post, I didn’t throw this season away yet.

Btw, if this trend continues, we should be in the playoffs this year, anything short of that is failure imo.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

They could finish with 95 points and miss the playoffs.

I want some guys to get the experience mainly but I'm not gonna flip out.

 

[Oddbob]

Why most here think that before playing in NHL ASP should play in AHL. There's nothing for him to learn in AHL. Very next season he should be on second pair

There is plenty to learn in the AHL.

 

[norrisnick]

There is plenty to learn in the AHL.

Namely how to dodge talentless plugs that will run you 3 seconds after the puck is gone....

 

[Oddbob]

Namely how to dodge talentless plugs that will run you 3 seconds after the puck is gone....

Quit talking about the AHL like it is the SPHL or FPHL. Ridiculous.

 

[norrisnick]

Quit talking about the AHL like it is the SPHL or FPHL. Ridiculous.

I will once our prospects stop getting run by talentless plugs whilest in the AHL.

 

[SantosHalper]

Why most here think that before playing in NHL ASP should play in AHL. There's nothing for him to learn in AHL.

The most important lesson, how to be a professional athlete.

People forget that these kids are literally kids, ASP probably still lives at home. And Yzerman has said that these kids stay where they are until they are physically and mentally ready to play in NHL or AHL.

There is no rush, we not only want these kids to make it, we need these kids to make it. Give them time. Makar & Fox played their first full season when they were 21, ASP turns 20 in March.

 

[lilidk]

The most important lesson, how to be a professional athlete.

People forget that these kids are literally kids, ASP probably still lives at home. And Yzerman has said that these kids stay where they are until they are physically and mentally ready to play in NHL or AHL.

There is no rush, we not only want these kids to make it, we need these kids to make it. Give them time. Makar & Fox played their first full season when they were 21, ASP turns 20 in March.

And I believe Makar NHL entry was when he was 19 and his first NHL season was when he was 20. Anyway , my point was that let him mature enough to play in NHL and skip AHL. I also believe he could play now in NHL, limited third pair and second pp until

 

[Henkka]

And I believe Makar NHL entry was when he was 19 and his first NHL season was when he was 20. Anyway , my point was that let him mature enough to play in NHL and skip AHL. I also believe he could play now in NHL, limited third pair and second pp until

Makar was ~20,5 year old before his NHL entry at the playoffs. 2 years after draft.

And he turned 21 during the start of the first regular season (October birthday).

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Quit talking about the AHL like it is the SPHL or FPHL. Ridiculous.

It's still a goon league. And there's still a lot of dirtbag shit that happens in that league.

 

[lilidk]

Makar was ~20,5 year old before his NHL entry at the playoffs. 2 years after draft.

And he turned 21 during the start of the first regular season (October birthday).

Thanks, I remember when Makar started playing in NHL, he was like extra forward, no defense. ASP is already good at defense and his size will not make him much better. Of course he needs to get stronger and faster, but who doesn't. Among our prospects only Kasper doesn't need to improve in speed and physicality

 

[jaster]

The AHL is just NA hockey. That's really all there is to it. It's not a goon league. A goon league was the CHL (no, not that CHL). You softies want guys hanging out in Europe, handled with kid's gloves, getting ill-prepared for NA hockey, well I won't stand for it! Get MBN to GR ASAP. ASP to follow next season!