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GDT: Avs @ Winnipeg | 5 PM MT | Blackwood Whiteout

After attending the game last night, I came to two conclusions.

1) Our PP desperately lacks two things, a trigger man in the bumper position and a net front presence.

The latter will be solved when Nuke and hopefully Landeskog come back.

The bumper position is more difficult because we don’t have anyone that resembles what Kadri would do there and that’s to fire the puck on net anytime it would come near him. I’d argue to try Rantanen at the bumper for a few games and put Drouin in Mikko’s spot. Makar barely even looks Mikko’s way on the PP so our best shooter is being wasted on the half wall barely getting puck touches.

2) The Avs simply can’t be bothered to give a 100% effort for a full 60 in the regular season. Get healthy, qualify for the playoffs, cya game 1, seems to be the theme here.
 
Outside the BS inconsistent efforts, the most concerning thing is their awful team shooting.

I've never seen a team generate so many good looks only to either have their shot blocked by a dman or we just flat miss. Last night in the 1st period we had LOC open point blank and he flat misses the net, Mitts wide open in the slot gets his shot blocked, and Rants on the doorstep somehow manages to get his shot blocked. That's 3 good looks where the puck doesn't even get to the goalie.

This isn't a one time thing, they simply suck a shooting. Can't win games consistently when you struggle as much as the Avs do at forcing a goalie to make a save on good looks. They blow too many looks, it's not good, and not sure how to fix it.
 
chet1926 said:
Outside the BS inconsistent efforts, the most concerning thing is their awful team shooting.

I've never seen a team generate so many good looks only to either have their shot blocked by a dman or we just flat miss. Last night in the 1st period we had LOC open point blank and he flat misses the net, Mitts wide open in the slot gets his shot blocked, and Rants on the doorstep somehow manages to get his shot blocked. That's 3 good looks where the puck doesn't even get to the goalie.

This isn't a one time thing, they simply suck a shooting. Can't win games consistently when you struggle as much as the Avs do at forcing a goalie to make a save on good looks. They blow too many looks, it's not good, and not sure how to fix it.
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We're 8th in the league with a 11,3% shooting percentage. So while I share the frustration after a game like this, I don't think this is a thing of concern.

It's not like the Avs can't score. Quite the opposite.
 
dahrougem2 said:
We are 25th at 5v5 shooting %.
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That sucks. But to flip a coin it can only even out and get better.

Edit to add:

Checked. All situations we've scored third highest goals. 5vs5 18th. With this injury storm in the top 6? Yeah not worried there at all.
 
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RECKLESS said:
That sucks. But to flip a coin it can only even out and get better.

Edit to add:

Checked. All situations we've scored third highest goals. 5vs5 18th. With this injury storm in the top 6? Yeah not worried there at all.
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At the end of the day can the Avs score, yes absolutely. Do they squander countless good looks every game, yes.

They are the masters of fine-tuning and missing the net or hitting the post, or shooting a grade A chance into a shin pad of the only defender or simply over passing and not even getting a shot off.

And honestly it starts with 29. He has to be better at shooting. To have only 16 goals at this point in the year is unacceptable for him. He needs to set the tone for this team and that means putting the puck in the net, stop this over passing garbage.
 
Balthazar said:
Since we got new goalies our numbers offensively went down significantly.
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I figured with your response, just trying to make a funny.

I don’t go stat whacking often, and this one caught me by surprise a little. I can’t draw a parallel as to why this would be the case other than coincidence but it is interesting.
 
shadow1 said:
They've been better since December 1st, they're up to 17th.

But I'm not sure if that stat is the end all be all. Florida is 32nd, Vegas is 27th, Buffalo is 1st ( :huh: ).
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I don't put much stock into shooting percentages, teams eb and flow all year outside of a couple outliers either highly over or underperforming. Just providing 5v5 season numbers.
 
NateTheGreat said:
After attending the game last night, I came to two conclusions.

1) Our PP desperately lacks two things, a trigger man in the bumper position and a net front presence.

The latter will be solved when Nuke and hopefully Landeskog come back.

The bumper position is more difficult because we don’t have anyone that resembles what Kadri would do there and that’s to fire the puck on net anytime it would come near him. I’d argue to try Rantanen at the bumper for a few games and put Drouin in Mikko’s spot. Makar barely even looks Mikko’s way on the PP so our best shooter is being wasted on the half wall barely getting puck touches.

2) The Avs simply can’t be bothered to give a 100% effort for a full 60 in the regular season. Get healthy, qualify for the playoffs, cya game 1, seems to be the theme here.
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Anything that keeps Rantanen from trying to be a slick stick handler/passer on the PP is good with me. When he does get the puck, it's pretty much a guaranteed turn over.

One timer or nothing.
 
littletonhockeycoach said:
Anything that keeps Rantanen from trying to be a slick stick handler/passer on the PP is good with me. When he does get the puck, it's pretty much a guaranteed turn over.

One timer or nothing.
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Teams know this, too. Overplay MacKinnon, force Makar to only go to Rantanen and watch Rantanen stickhandle right into traffic or make an unbelievably poor pass.

IMO Rantanen should move to the slot for a while given his one-timer threat and Drouin should move to the right half wall since he's arguably the best hands on the team.
 
Colorado Avalanche said:
No Nuke, no coke. No wins.

It's simple



Absolutely true and to be honest, we are getting to a stage where we need to start questioning him. If there's a trade available which could help us right now, I would definitely consider it. Mits still has value around the league.
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The world wants Nuke back!!

 
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