Confirmed with Link: Avs sign Kovalenko to 2-year deal

[The Pwnerer]

Love this, please just give us one prospect that we can develop outside the first round. With that said I'll give it 10 games before he's put in the Bednar doghouse. Bednar needs his new Newhook to pick on.

 

[henchman21]

If he plays next year do we have him for only 1 year on ELC?

It is only 2 years regardless. The first will be spent this year regardless of him playing over here or not. 24-25 will be the last year of this ELC.

 

[barriers]

If he plays next year do we have him for only 1 year on ELC?

It's 2 seasons no matter where he plays, this upcoming season and next.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Love this, please just give us one prospect that we can develop outside the first round. With that said I'll give it 10 games before he's put in the Bednar doghouse. Bednar needs his new Newhook to pick on.

That's asking a lot lol

 

[Balthazar]

It is only 2 years regardless. The first will be spent this year regardless of him playing over here or not. 24-25 will be the last year of this ELC.

It's 2 seasons no matter where he plays, this upcoming season and next.

So yea, that means we have him for only 1 year on ELC, which sucks for a team starving for ELC contracts.

 

[Avs9296]

Ya but he'll still be an RFA after, so it's not like he's gonna command crazy dough unless he goes off for like 40-50 points which is unlikely.

So yea, that means we have him for only 1 year on ELC, which sucks for a team starving for ELC contracts.

 

[henchman21]

Ya but he'll still be an RFA after, so it's not like he's gonna command crazy dough unless he goes off for like 40-50 points which is unlikely.

He's Russian with the connections and sway to get one of the bigger deals over there. You're going to have to pay at the high end of his market rate for his production whatever that ends up being.

So yea, that means we have him for only 1 year on ELC, which sucks for a team starving for ELC contracts.

Adding to that the bonus structure questions. Avs can just pay for the overages laters, but bonuses are now upto 3.5m per year. I don't think that is a huge risk, but there is risk to it.

 

[barriers]

In the end this whole "loan" thing is smoke and mirror to burn a year of ELC.

No, it's to get a year of ELC.

If he signed this spring it would be a 1 year ELC that would expire summer of 2024. If he signed Summer 2024 it would be a 1 year ELC that would expire summer 2025. The Avs have signed him to a 2 year ELC that expires Summer 2025, and now they don't have to expend any energy getting him signed this spring when playoffs should be the only concern.

This "loan" is a loan to a team that released him from an active contract to get this sorted out in the Av's offseason.

 

[henchman21]

In the end this whole "loan" thing is smoke and mirror to burn a year of ELC.

I'd actually argue it allows for one year of an ELC and while doing so secures him coming over ASAP. Here is what I mean by that. If Kovalenko signed March 20th, 2024, he'd fall under the rules for a 1 year ELC vs a 2 year ELC by age (provided it was for this season... after March 1. you can sign for the following season but clearly can't play in 23-24). Odds are, that if he signed on that date, he'd want to burn a year... any game played would burn a year (ways to burn otherwise, but beyond this scope). Thus, signing him next spring would likely have him as a RFA for 24-25 that has to be re-signed. This method ensures that 24-25 will be covered by an ELC because he's 23 when signed and his loan simply burns off the first year.

As much as anything, the Avs have security of him coming over. They can recall his loan rights the second the KHL season ends. From that point forward, he's an Av.

 

[Balthazar]

I'd actually argue it allows for one year of an ELC and while doing so secures him coming over ASAP. Here is what I mean by that. If Kovalenko signed March 20th, 2024, he'd fall under the rules for a 1 year ELC vs a 2 year ELC by age. Odds are, that if he signed on that date, he'd want to burn a year... any game played would burn a year (ways to burn otherwise, but beyond this scope). Thus, signing him next spring would likely have him as a RFA for 24-25 that has to be re-signed. This method ensures that 24-25 will be covered by an ELC because he's 23 when signed and his loan simply burns off the first year.

Yea I forgot that 24+ only get 1 year of ELC.

 

[niwotsblessing]

Well done, CMac.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Love this, please just give us one prospect that we can develop outside the first round. With that said I'll give it 10 games before he's put in the Bednar doghouse. Bednar needs his new Newhook to pick on.

Staying away from the org until 24 might be the new strategy!

when Bednar sees Kovy forecheck he will shed a single tear.

the loan is so that he can actually come over in the spring. Without that I would say it was going to be unlikely.

 

[Bender]

Welcome aboard... eventually !!

 

[BoneCherry]

Not sure if this was mentioned, he's from North Carolina. He was born in Raleigh when his dad, Andrei, played with Carolina. That may make immigration somewhat easier although I don't know the rules.

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

Not sure if this was mentioned, he's from North Carolina. He was born in Raleigh when his dad, Andrei, played with Carolina. That may make immigration somewhat easier although I don't know the rules.

Yes, he has a US Passport so it should be okay.

 

[Alex Jones]

Is there a language barrier? By my count his father probably left the States when he was pretty young. Could see moving to the States in the middle of the season as a hard transition.

 

[Bender]

Is there a language barrier? By my count his father probably left the States when he was pretty young. Could see moving to the States in the middle of the season as a hard transition.

I sure he speak the english good

 

[the_fan]

I sure he speak the english good

What is say this?

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Love this, please just give us one prospect that we can develop outside the first round. With that said I'll give it 10 games before he's put in the Bednar doghouse. Bednar needs his new Newhook to pick on.

He'll have Drouin to hate plenty of, don't you worry

 

[hawk30]

Not sure if this was mentioned, he's from North Carolina. He was born in Raleigh when his dad, Andrei, played with Carolina. That may make immigration somewhat easier although I don't know the rules.

uh, yeah. Pretty straightforward for Americans to move to America.

 

[AvsFan2123]

Kinda hoping for something in the middle I guess lol. I feel like he’ll fall somewhere in the middle. Not a star but a solid third player. Possible average 2nd if injuries occur and has better players on his line.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Honestly if he turns into a 35 point 3rd liner everyone on this board should be absolutely thrilled with that result.

We haven't turned a non 1st round pick of ours into a legit NHLer(IE someone with say 200+ games) since Will Butcher back in 2013 and besides Butcher you have to go all the way back to Barrie and O'Reilly back in 2009 to find the next guys.

Which basically means since ROR/Barrie we haven't drafted a player that amounted to being more then a #6/7Dman outside of the first round since 2009.


Kovalenko turning into a 3rd line would be like our scouting department hitting the lottery essentially.

 

[henchman21]

At that price next year, he’s surely going to get the full run to see if he will secure a long term spot.

 

[dahrougem2]

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Kinda hoping for something in the middle I guess lol. I feel like he’ll fall somewhere in the middle. Not a star but a solid third player. Possible average 2nd if injuries occur and has better players on his line.

Nikolishin was f***ing filthy lol

 

[Metallo]

So yea, that means we have him for only 1 year on ELC, which sucks for a team starving for ELC contracts.

2 playoffs is how I see it. It's good that we can stash him this year and cheap on the cap.