We should claim him and gift Florida with a 2nd, y'know...for old time's sake.
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We should claim him and gift Florida with a 2nd, y'know...for old time's sake.
I love Trouba, but...
1) I doubt he will go for what Jets want for him; demanding a trade and not showing up for camp goes straight into the hands of the other GM. IMO.
2) He hasn't shown enough in his progression to demand a quality player in return. Bigras as a major piece back is more than fair IMO, even if we need to add to it. A lot of the Jets fans on the main board are requesting a high calibre player DUE to Jacob's draft selection, not really his development (which each fan would lose an argument on). Some posters of course are devaluing Bigras, but 11th > 2nd Round Pick everytime and have no regards in terms of player's development. IE: PK Subban > Keaton Ellerby.
3) We all know that Trouba demanded a ton of money to play in Winnipeg, but I also doubt he will go for cheap either....how will Avs pay him?
1) I doubt he will go for what Jets want for him; demanding a trade and not showing up for camp goes straight into the hands of the other GM. IMO.
2) He hasn't shown enough in his progression to demand a quality player in return. Bigras as a major piece back is more than fair IMO, even if we need to add to it. A lot of the Jets fans on the main board are requesting a high calibre player DUE to Jacob's draft selection, not really his development (which each fan would lose an argument on). Some posters of course are devaluing Bigras, but 11th > 2nd Round Pick everytime and have no regards in terms of player's development. IE: PK Subban > Keaton Ellerby.
3) We all know that Trouba demanded a ton of money to play in Winnipeg, but I also doubt he will go for cheap either....how will Avs pay him?
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I'd like to have Trouba on our team in theory, because well while he's being overhyped by Jets fans, he's still a good defenseman. But in terms of where he'd play I guess he'd have to be ok playing his off side or Barrie would have to be moved sides, and either we'd have to send some $$$ back or Trouba would have to take a 1 year cheap as hell contract with us. Long story short I'd love to have Trouba as even if he's overhyped a little, he's still a good defenseman who can play 2nd or 1st pairing minutes but there's almost no way we can get him as has been said before.
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It's the cap that kills any hope for Trouba on this team IMO. If we had known he would be available at the beginning of summer, we might have done a lot of things differently to make it work out, but now we're stuck with the roster we have and although Trouba is a good player and would be nice to have, there is no way we can fit him onto our roster right now. I'm sure Sakic is at least exploring his options; he'd be insane not to, but it won't happen without hurting the team in some other way.
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I don't think it would hurt the team considering Iggy is almost off the books. I just don't think teams are looking to take back more salary then they're giving up.
1. Fully agree, Jets fans want the moon and then some. If/when he gets traded it will be a big letdown for Jets fans kinda of like it was a letdown to some when the Avs traded ROR.
2. Spot on again. Jets fans think that since he was a higher first round pick and has a name and played on team NA in the world cup that he should be worth a ton. When in reality, he is a nice player but hasn't shown anything at this point to indicate that he is the next big thing. And every Jets fan completely undervalues Bigras, he would be a nice piece for the Jets that I'd be hesitant to let go.
3. We can't pay Trouba this season, without major money moves. Which is why this talk gets stupid because it unrealistic to think we could make it work. Now if for some reason we could work out a 1 year "bridge" deal for him, then work out a new deal that he can sign six months after the bridge deal that starts next season then we could have a possible deal as we'll have the room starting next season. But that could also violate something, as I could easily see the NHL calling that cap circumvention or some BS.
Personally I'm not sure I really even want Trouba at his price tag in what it would cost acquire him and what he wants contract wise. Giving up at minimum 1 quality asset and probably another 2 decent assets to acquire another young larger contract player might not be the right move for the Avs at this particular moment. I'd rather let my assets play out this season, see what happens and then start making major moves next offseason when we have more cap to play with and we've seen what our guys do with a new coach, and adjust from there.
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Trouba wants to play on the right side and unless EJ or Barrie is going the other way that's a problem.
I'd give the moon for Lindholm who'd be a perfect fit for us (#1 dman on the left side) but not for Trouba.
I like Lindholm better than Trouba as well. But that being said, like I said in a previous post I would still like to see this year play out before we start shipping out any pieces, especially higher quality pieces like top prospects, top picks, core players. I want to see what they do with a new coach and system. And then next offseason, when we have more cap flexibility, then start adjusting the roster keeping who worked well and maybe shipping off the pieces that aren't working.
The last thing I want to see is something stupid like shipping off Duchene or Landeskog without seeing what they do under a new system.
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Pretty much my thoughts. I like him. He hasn't grown as much as I'd like but he's certainly a good player and likely to get better. But Jets fans are living on his rookie year and act like he's grown like all the rest of his peers have since which isn't the case.
If they wanted to take EJ I'd do it just because I'm scared of EJ's second half of his contract but outside of that there's really no deal to be made there to make Trouba our 3rd best D and to have around 18 million tied up in our right side for the next half decade.
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Cousin Eddie
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I haven't been following the team but I read on the main boards that there's a chance either Lowry or Burmi is waived.
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If Lowry or Burmi might make it to waivers, I'd offer up some sort of asset to get them. Like both, prefer Lowry.
Cousin Eddie
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Scottie Mayfield on waivers. First played named that I think is actually worthwhile. We wont put in a claim but he's a very solid all round player.
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Him being a right shot makes him interesting. I wouldn't mind adding him for depth purposes.
And Kento, Stoner doesn't do it for you?
And Kento, Stoner doesn't do it for you?
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Him being a right shot makes him interesting. I wouldn't mind adding him for depth purposes.
And Kento, Stoner doesn't do it for you?
Seems like a decent flip for Siemens if he passes waivers.
henchman21
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I'd much prefer Mayfield over Siemens actually. Right shot so he helps the depth there and is much better with the puck without losing the grit and much skating ability.
This is a good litmus test to see if Siemens would pass through, if Mayfield does, I'd say Siemens certainly does.
Cousin Eddie
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Is there actually fear of Siemens not passing? I don't mean fear as in fear that he may not pass. I mean does anybody really care if he gets claimed?
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Some folks think the team will keep him so he's not exposed on waivers so yeah they don't want him claimed. I think we need the depth and he could actually be a callup option this year but no it wouldn't break my heart either.
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